Free will. Without it you would have no choice over any aspect of your life. You want that ?
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why do people who dont believe question god anyway?????
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steveox
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No,,But Now I understood why the Soviets invaded Afghanistan long time ago. Its to tame the Arabs. We do need to keep invading the Middle east. Just like the Soviets took 1/2 of Europe. Its to keep the peace. So we need to Take these Arab nations and rule them.
This will control racial Islam. This book will be illegal to read
If you have this book in your home youll be arrested and its 10 years in prison.
Texas_tea
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Because we have free will????
steveox
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Yea I wonder what Dog is saying?
Dawkinsrocks
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How can you have free will?
If everything is unfolding according to God's will everything is already pre set.
And even if you did have free will god gave it to you knowing how it would be used
It would be like giving loaded machine guns to a group of toddlers. We wouldn't blame the toddlers for the ensuing carnage. We would blame the giver
If everything is unfolding according to God's will everything is already pre set.
And even if you did have free will god gave it to you knowing how it would be used
It would be like giving loaded machine guns to a group of toddlers. We wouldn't blame the toddlers for the ensuing carnage. We would blame the giver
Free will means you will not have all your actions dictated by God, you do what you choose to do. That can be looking to be the nicest person ever or the worst. So while you wind up with obamas you also get heros and saints. No free will and you get all Barbi and Kens.
Dawkinsrocks
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You don't have free will
If god know the future the future must be fixed and unchangeable otherwise you couldn't know it
I suppose if you are a Christian this argument is going to be a tad difficult to comprehend
After all you must be pretty moronic to buy the lies and nonsense in the bible
If god know the future the future must be fixed and unchangeable otherwise you couldn't know it
I suppose if you are a Christian this argument is going to be a tad difficult to comprehend
After all you must be pretty moronic to buy the lies and nonsense in the bible
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I like the words you use to define free will
It makes a lot of sense.
But why do we suffer time and time again if we aren't evil hearted
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"Why is life throwing things at me and never apologizing. I know I getup,but that doesnt mean I'm not bruised."
We will continue to question till there is nothing left, but when we accept we are still bombarded by the fact that we still suffer we still hurt. " we still fall down. Somepeople just can't find it in them to stand up again."
What advice is there for those who want to let go that can't see that god is here for us.
He hasn't abandoned us yet.
We will continue to question till there is nothing left, but when we accept we are still bombarded by the fact that we still suffer we still hurt. " we still fall down. Somepeople just can't find it in them to stand up again."
What advice is there for those who want to let go that can't see that god is here for us.
He hasn't abandoned us yet.
Because EVERYONE has free will.
Dawkinsrocks
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Where did free will come from?
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You like the concept?
Its a beauty isn't it?
You can't expect us to know this just like we can't expect scientist to figure out a way to record temperature.
Its a beauty isn't it?
You can't expect us to know this just like we can't expect scientist to figure out a way to record temperature.
Dawkinsrocks
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Are you too unintelligent to understand my argument about free will and why it is logically impossible in the context of your belief?
If the universe is unfolding according to God's plan then it is determined and there is no option for free will
So either you have free will but you have to sacrifice the plan bit
Or you don't
Either way you are fucked
Are you too unintelligent to understand my argument about free will and why it is logically impossible in the context of your belief?
If the universe is unfolding according to God's plan then it is determined and there is no option for free will
So either you have free will but you have to sacrifice the plan bit
Or you don't
Either way you are fucked
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I'm sorry that I may appear stupid to your inferior species, but the fact is that I made a valid point it is only invalid to those who are to ignorant to comprehend what I said, in other words your an idiot.
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Dawkinsrocks
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There you go again
Trying to avoid the point
This shows how stupid Christians are
Faced with proof that you cannot have free will in the context of the Christian faith you just put your head back up your ass and carry on regardless
But then if your evidence is a book of lies what can I expect?
Trying to avoid the point
This shows how stupid Christians are
Faced with proof that you cannot have free will in the context of the Christian faith you just put your head back up your ass and carry on regardless
But then if your evidence is a book of lies what can I expect?
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