why do people who dont believe question god anyway?????

[GenSeneca]

GenSeneca expressed a uniting point of view when it comes to believers and non-believers. ... GenSeneca's explanation of "atheist" and "anti-theist" is also insightful, though I wasn't familiar with the distinction he described. It is the character and behavior of human beings that count in life, not their religion or lack thereof.

Thanks JP, and it's nice to see you again. It seems obvious to me that limiting the power of government so that no individual or group can legally force their will on others would be something everyone, regardless of their religious or political views, could agree upon. Sadly, it seems more often than not, that people are only upset when that force is being used against them or members of their collective, they never seem to mind when that force is on their side and being used to violate the rights of some other individual or group who's not part of their own.

 

[GenSeneca]

I have plenty of friends who are atheist and I never hear a peep out of them about my religion being stupid.

We Atheists don't care what you believe... Anti-Theists are angry that you do believe and will not shut up about it.

There is a difference between hating and questioning and he clearly wasn't questioning

As to the topic of the thread... A wise man once said:

“Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.”- TJ

 

[diamonds in the sky<>]

The government is a bunch of old guys in aroom discussing politics. You bring religion into it and it becomes a heated debate.
I think it is a nice pretty thought and everyone needs hope in one way or another. Some people fund it in god others don't that's their choice.
We don't need ugly people trying to take away our joy.
Gen Seneca have a merry holiday. I'm not sure if you celebrate Christmas but have a good holiday.

Also it doesn't matter what you tell dawk he is just an in considerate a-hole who thinks he can see what the world is made of.
He is just going to keep on talking crap, so don't mind him none.

 

[GenSeneca]

Gen Seneca have a merry holiday. I'm not sure if you celebrate Christmas but have a good holiday.

Thanks Diamonds, Merry Christmas to you!

And Merry ChriFSMas to Dawkins.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Ahhh yes

Lovely benign religion

Behind loads of wars

And killings

And hatred

And discrimination

If a group spoke about blacks the way Christians talk about homosexuals they would be arrested

And yet we have to make dispensation for the followers of this mad hate filled superstition

Religion is like racism

It discriminates and often ends in extreme violence done to those on the receiving end of that discrimination

 

[diamonds in the sky<>]

Yes, some people do get a little out of hand. Your finally making a valid point.

 

[TheJPRD]

Ahhh yes

Lovely benign religion

You'll never "get it" will you? The wise posters here have universally expressed the opinion that it's INDIVIDUAL character and behavior that are important, NOT "religion", lack of religion, skin color, and not gender. You, on the other hand, continue to initiate bigoted attacks on entire groups! It's YOUR opinions that are definitely NOT benign!

Behind loads of wars

And killings

Wars like those waged by the anti-theist secularist, Napoleon? No decent human being would blame the Napoleonic wars on ALL non-believing secularists! No decent human being would blame ALL wars and killings on religion either! Most every human being has something they "worship" or idolize. Ancient Britons occasionally worshiped trees. As we've seen in your words here, you worship a spiteful hatred of believers. Your hateful rhetoric could incite violence against those who believe. Will you never understand??

And hatred

And discrimination

Hatred and discrimination like that displayed by those religious, white citizens who risked their lives working the underground railroad to free black slaves?

If a group spoke about blacks the way Christians talk about homosexuals they would be arrested

I'm a Christian, as are many others here. I personally challenge you to find one single post or statement that I've made here that spoke ill of all homosexuals! Find it or quite speaking in pathetic and bigoted generalizations.

And yet we have to make dispensation for the followers of this mad hate filled superstition

Who's making dispensations? Certainly not you.

Religion is like racism

It discriminates and often ends in extreme violence done to those on the receiving end of that discrimination

The ONLY hate speech and discrimination I've witnessed in this thread has been expressed by YOU!

 

[diamonds in the sky<>]

Dawk you making people irritated?
Seems its not just me.
You don't understand why we believe and your malice may be spured by pure jealousy ,because we have come to terms with the world through god and you haven't and you may find that the world hates you.
Its like a pie to the face huh?

 

[Texas_tea]

This a person that openly condones the death of innocent people. I would say that ... that level of hatred is a more along the lines of sociopath.

 

[GenSeneca]

Dawk you making people irritated?

That is his goal. You think any theist has ever listened to him rail against them and their religion only to then say to themselves, "Gee, Dawk... You make some valid points... This whole God/religion thing really is BS!"? I can promise you that scenario has never happened. He's not trying to convince anyone that he's right, he's just trying to goad a reaction. Misery loves company and this guy is desperate to have some.

 

[Texas_tea]

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You hold ludicrous views that you try to force on others

If Christians kept their insanity to themselves I'd be quite happy

Funny isn't it that you can see the bullshit of religion when it is someone else's

Like Islam

Well yours is just as mad

 

[diamonds in the sky<>]

Don't f-up my holiday dumbass.
Religion puts happyness in certain people's hearts and some really beieve with all their heart's so just let them be.
If you believe in something don't you feel strongly about it?

 

[dogtowner]

That is his goal. You think any theist has ever listened to him rail against them and their religion only to then say to themselves, "Gee, Dawk... You make some valid points... This whole God/religion thing really is BS!"? I can promise you that scenario has never happened. He's not trying to convince anyone that he's right, he's just trying to goad a reaction. Misery loves company and this guy is desperate to have some.

Grade schoolers consider what he does debate.

 

[Texas_tea]