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and if a woman is murdered because she is pregnant (the murder rate is high) then there is no option of adoption. and what if she doesn't want someone else to raise an offspring from her biological being.


Can you provide some documentation to corroborate your claim that the murder rate of pregnant women is higher than that of the general population?
 
ps. it's not a life until it's birthed.
you carry all kinds of parasites and worms in your body... wanna protect those? boycott Listerine.

It is a human being from the time fertilization is complete. If you are basing your position on this bit of misinformation, then perhaps you should re-examine your postion.

Or you can prove me wrong by providing some credible science that states that the unborn isn't alive prior to its birth. That somehow it grows from a single cell to billions of cells in 8 or 9 months without actually being alive. \

It is as human as it will ever be as soon as fertilization is complete.

By the way, it isn't a parasite either. Do you need a half a dozen accurate scientific reasons that an unborn can't be characterized as a parasite? It seems that everything you believe is based on untruth, misunderstanding, or ignorance.
 
further, there are many complications once a woman finds out she is pregnant. how about transgender possibilities in family history, diabetes, other things that weren't pillow talk during the sexual encounter?

and what about Hermaphrodites? would you adopt one?

2 to 3% does not constitute "many". Get a real argument or hang it up.
 
hmmmm.... maybe you don't know.... that's not how sex works all the time.

Are you suggesting that hormones over rule rational thought and planning - that you don't have a choice...that you can't carry a condum?

and if a woman is murdered because she is pregnant (the murder rate is high) then there is no option of adoption. and what if she doesn't want someone else to raise an offspring from her biological being.

only the pregnant woman can make the decision for herself about the pregnancy. no one else.

Agreed. It's her body. But at some point what's inside her is not just a blob of tissue.
 
further, there are many complications once a woman finds out she is pregnant. how about transgender possibilities in family history, diabetes, other things that weren't pillow talk during the sexual encounter?

and what about Hermaphrodites? would you adopt one?

Why would transgender/hermaphrodite issues make a difference?

And yes, I'd adopt one.
 
Are you suggesting that hormones over rule rational thought and planning - that you don't have a choice...that you can't carry a condum?


You know, those arguments don't sound too far off from the same sort you made not so very long ago. You have come quite a way since then.
 
Which leads one to wonder how, exactly, the definition ever came to be in the legal dictionary. I understand what you were getting at, but at this point, all the philosophical wrangling has been long done. The rules of the game in the US were established with the writing of the constitution. Arguing over whether the definition of person in a legal dictionary is correct is as pointless an exercise as if a lawyer beleived that he could make his client's case work if he could just get the judge to accept a different definition of bankruptcy or void, or guilty for that matter.

In many cases, centuries of philosophical, and legal wrangling have gone before the defintion that one finds in the legal dictionary. At this point, however, all the wrangling in the world between you and me, or legal council and a supreme court justice is not going to change what it says.

If an entirely unconstitional decision had not been made and actual lives were not being lost in the thousands per day, a philosophical argument on the subject "just for fun" might be appropriate but at this point, such mental masturbation amounts to fiddling while rome burns. Abortion is serious business to me.

If you would like to engage in a philosophical sparing match on some topic in which lives are not on the line, I might enjoy the exercise, but not this topic. It simply isn't appropriate.

Your inability to discern philosophical concepts has led you to the conclusion that the unborn are persons and comatose individuals not.

At least this philosophical exercise hasn't been entirely useless for you.
 
Numinus, when a post is deleted it shows up for the mods but nobody else even after it has been deleted. I can't see any of your posts that have been deleted by anyone.

I'm pretty sure its a glitch.
 
Numinus, when a post is deleted it shows up for the mods but nobody else even after it has been deleted. I can't see any of your posts that have been deleted by anyone.

I'm pretty sure its a glitch.

Apparently, this glitch found it necessary to delete my posts only.
 
It is a human being from the time fertilization is complete. If you are basing your position on this bit of misinformation, then perhaps you should re-examine your postion.

Or you can prove me wrong by providing some credible science that states that the unborn isn't alive prior to its birth. That somehow it grows from a single cell to billions of cells in 8 or 9 months without actually being alive. \

It is as human as it will ever be as soon as fertilization is complete.

By the way, it isn't a parasite either. Do you need a half a dozen accurate scientific reasons that an unborn can't be characterized as a parasite? It seems that everything you believe is based on untruth, misunderstanding, or ignorance.

no, actually it's the law. abortion is legal.
so women have rights over their own body.
your opinion of life doesn't matter.

the problem with this issue is that so many people take it emotionally.
it's a physical issue. no emotion involved. very simple.
 
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