Abortion

[AgainstTheMachine]

Mare Wrote -

is that society does not SUPPORT women in bringing children into the world, we have very little in the way of prenatal care or financial support available

You are 100% wrong and out of touch with reality.

Social services does a very good job of providing for children
with or without parents in the US.

A person on welfare with kids gets a free home, free food and spending cash to boot.
Your doctor bills are paid for also.

that is how they look at it ... we give them ... and give them and all they do is cry because its not enough ... its NEVER enough ...

It's called Justice ... ooops - in their variation it's Just Us ...

They want to deserve MORE than they earn

Unfortunate for them ... I was down and out a lot more than most of them

and at 51 - I am semi retired over 5 years already ... so as they cry - I know they are their own worst (and unmotivated) enemy!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

In my personal opinion, Abortion is wrong. Even if it's not a
fully developed baby, its still a living organism.

So is mold.

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[Mr. Shaman]

that is how they look at it ... we give them ... and give them and all they do is cry because its not enough ... its NEVER enough ...

They want to deserve MORE than they earn.

That's a crime, now, huh???

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[AgainstTheMachine]

That's a crime, now, huh???

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not a crime - it's called liberal MOOCHING!

WTF - who are you to DEMAND money from MY efforts?
and to FORCE me to help people I do not want to help?

It is not any form of FREEDOM when I am FORCED ...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

WTF - who are you to DEMAND money from MY efforts?

....But, it's different when you aren't being fairly-compensated for your efforts, so a CEO can make 160X what you do, right??

Do people (like that) even have to ask you to bend-over, anymore???


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[citizenzen]

A person on welfare with kids gets a free home, free food and spending cash to boot.

There you go. The system is working! I love this country.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

....But, it's different when you aren't being fairly-compensated for your efforts, so a CEO can make 160X what you do, right??

Do people (like that) even have to ask you to bend-over, anymore???


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what are you babbling about?

I am talking about MY TAX DOLLAR going to help the useless who refuse to do better for themselves ....

... if I were more assertive - I too could have gotten an education and made a butt load of money more than I have ... but I didn't

I am sick of my money getting raped by those socialist ass wipes who make me pay out more of my income
to support the trash that does NOTHING to do BETTER for themselves as they sit their and snivel about how they can't - its like a loaded diaper!

 

[citizenzen]

I am talking about MY TAX DOLLAR going to help the useless who refuse to do better for themselves...

Everybody has a gripe about where their tax dollars go. I hate to see mine wasted on a military that's obscenely bloated. I'd much rather it go to people on welfare.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

Everybody has a gripe about where their tax dollars go. I hate to see mine wasted on a military that's obscenely bloated. I'd much rather it go to people on welfare.

ah ... a Clintonista

Had Clinton NOT raped the military ... more soldiers would be alive today ...

who will defend us if we are one of the crap pile global military?

UN? LMAO ... not a chance ... look at their ability ... to NOT support their OWN resolutions and how they were in the grab for the food for oil program and how they were accused for the rape of those they were supposed to help in the Congo

You think some HIV infested or dope addict on welfare are going to do the job of the military?

You REALLY want us screwed?

most WELFARE people aren't worth a crap otherwise they would realize they can earn more than welfare on a job that's just a buck or two an hour higher than minimum ... you prefer to support screw ups instead of an honorable profession? ... and you act as though I am the one who is nuts?

 

[citizenzen]

... and you act as though I am the one who is nuts?

How have I acted like you were "nuts"?

You certainly are angry though.

Good luck with that.

 

[OldTrapper]

So is mold.

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Mold is a life form, is it not?

Now, we do destroy harmful molds, yet some are cultivated for use as food, or medicene.

So, how does that equate in your little mind?

 

[OldTrapper]

There you go. The system is working! I love this country.

So, you are one of those who believes that a person who does not work, or pay taxes, should be allowed to demand total support from those who do.

Amazing. Why should anyone work then? And then they wonder what has happened to the work ethnic in this country.

 

[citizenzen]

So, you are one of those who believes that a person who does not work, or pay taxes, should be allowed to demand total support from those who do.

Depends what your definition of "total" is. If you think that living in a slum, in a run-down tenament is "total" support... then yes, that's the least we should do.

Why should anyone work then?

Because the vast majority of people in this country aspire to more than mere subsistence. Like me... and I suppose, like you.

 

[OldTrapper]

Depends what your definition of "total" is. If you think that living in a slum, in a run-down tenament is "total" support... then yes, that's the least we should do.

LOL, you have obviously never seen some of the "low cost" housing. And I see you did not mention welfare cash, food stamps, medicaid, energy assistance, etc.

Because the vast majority of people in this country aspire to more than mere subsistence. Like me... and I suppose, like you.

Not going in that direction. Today close to 50% of the population pay no taxes. Children 18 to 24, are more likely to live with mommy, and daddy, then to look for work. Do you ever wonder why we "need" so many illegals ot do the work when so many are unemployed? What was that which Bush consistently stated "to do the work that Americans CANNOT OR WILL NOT do". More emphasis should be put on "will not".

 

[citizenzen]

LOL, you have obviously never seen some of the "low cost" housing. And I see you did not mention welfare cash, food stamps, medicaid, energy assistance, etc.

Well, now that you mention them... I support those too.

Not going in that direction. Today close to 50% of the population pay no taxes. Children 18 to 24, are more likely to live with mommy, and daddy, then to look for work. Do you ever wonder why we "need" so many illegals ot do the work when so many are unemployed? What was that which Bush consistently stated "to do the work that Americans CANNOT OR WILL NOT do". More emphasis should be put on "will not".

Personally, I don't share your rather dim view of human nature. I believe that the vast majority of people will work to improve their lives beyond what welfare provides. Apparently, you think it's a gravy train. I guess we'll just have to disagree on this.