Abortion

[citizenzen]

They also ignored the 4th. Amendment which guarantees a person the right to be secure in their persons, and the 5th. Amendment which guarantees a person the right to life absent due process of law as does the 14th.

That is why they had to be certain that they cast the babe in the womb in the light of "non-human" so as to deprive them the right to life. Much the same argument was made in the deciding of Plessey.

Also in Roe a fact that is often overlooked was the comment by the Court that if science should ever determine that life began at conception then their ruling would be moot. So, even though the majority of scientists support the belief that life begins at conception the Court now rules that it would have an adverse effect on society to reverse Roe since abortion has now become the custom of the land.

Thank you OT. If there had only been attorneys arguing for your side, the whole thing might have turned out differently.

 

[citizenzen]

What is pro war anyway?

What is pro abortion?

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

So you are saying that if you were an Iraqi famly and were having missiles and bombs rained down on you you would just get up and leave?
Naw ... I would just paint a BULLSEYE on my butt ...
Seriously - would YOU& be stupid enough to stay? ... maybe YOU would!

Ditto if you were an Afghani family.

And if they don't do this it is the fault of the children and they deserve to die so your pro life insurance doesn't cover them?

You are a monster

to me you are a TRAITOR - supporting anti war supports terrorist activity

You too should be in a padded cell for drug induced stupidity - so do tell - how much LSD did your parents take?

Just a note here...

This fact has become an over-used device in these threads by both the left and the right. With it, any decision the Supreme Court renders can be dismissed out of hand... making it effectively, meaningless. I think we all can agree that slavery was wrong and that our government and society eventually got it right by outlawing it.

Now can we please find a more original talking point to trot out?

... and to think the Democrats were the ones in the south ... fighting against the very FIRST Republican President (you did know that Abe was the first one)

You regressive's are a real piece of work ...

 

[rationalist]

You need help

 

[citizenzen]

... and to think the Democrats were the ones in the south ... fighting against the very FIRST Republican President (you did know that Abe was the first one)

You regressive's are a real piece of work ...

So you harbor a 150 year grudge... seek to blame democrats for slavery... and I'm a piece of work?

ATM, how will we ever survive as a society, how will we ever work together to solve the problems we face, if you insist on rhetoric like that.

I get the impression that you don't like me at all.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

You need help

even Jesus and the other prophets were for the children.

You profess to care about "THE CHILDREN" in war torn countries so long as they are allowed to be killed here ... and you people have the audacity it insinuate that my PRO - Life motives are twisted??

So you harbor a 150 year grudge... seek to blame democrats for slavery... and I'm a piece of work?

ATM, how will we ever survive as a society, how will we ever work together to solve the problems we face, if you insist on rhetoric like that.

I get the impression that you don't like me at all.

a 150 year grudge? like saying that the sole of a shoe that walked into a bunch of bovine dung 150 years ago will taste just fine today!

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

can't you provide a better argument than this?

I am doing this on 4 hours sleep and in between other unrelated stuff ...

 

[citizenzen]

...a 150 year grudge? like saying that the sole of a shoe that walked into a bunch of bovine dung 150 years ago will taste just fine today!

I would think the 150 year-old bovine dung would be the least of your worries. I'd be more concerned about what you stepped in today.

 

[rationalist]

If you think it is OK to bomb and kill innocent actual people and if you think that a few brainless cells have greater rights than these actual people you are clearly mad.

 

[citizenzen]

I am doing this on 4 hours sleep and in between other unrelated stuff ...

Well that would explain your attitude, Mr. Cranky Pants.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

What about capital punishment?

Do you support that?

A system that guarantees that innocent and often mentally ill people are killed by the state for crimes they did not commit.

Is your pro life that kind of pro life?

Yeah ... I support execution of murderers ... just not like the system does!

They SHOULD be killed in the EXACT SAME MONOR that they killed their INNOCENT VICTIM'S!

... but people like you don't REALLY care about the innocent!

Or what about hunting? taking the life of animals for fun - is it that kind of pro life?

Or is some random religious based piece of inconsistent crap that appeals to the stupid?

First off - YES! I support hunting and believe in the reduction of the herd!

You have the guts to talk about inconsistent crap that appeals to the stupid?

1. Pro life is about protecting the defenceless life??
   
   Like Afghani or Iraqi childrens' lives do you mean??

   Which does NOT allow for an unborn in your own town to enjoy the SAME RIGHTS!

2. So everybody who gets an abortion is on welfare? Or liberal?
   
   That's painting with a mighty broad brush.

   while we ALL know that a responsible for one's own self conservative would follow your murderous manor of twisting right and wrong to appease your own whimsical desires!

3. Look I know you guys' grasp of logic is flimsy at the best of times but this time I can't make head nor tail of what you are getting at no matter how I spin what you have written.
   
   Anyone able to decode this stuff they have written?

   and one of the liberal ilk who STILL refuse to admit they can see the logic ... Just like some illegals who speak good English when it benefits their situation ... and gets real dumb when they don't see bit helping them ... You game has been officially called - you lost!

whatever ... arguing with your kind is useless!

we need to get the law changed so your type can be executed for murder!

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

Well that would explain your attitude, Mr. Cranky Pants.

STAY out of my pants! I don't mate with YOUR type!

 

[citizenzen]

STAY out of my pants! I don't mate with YOUR type!

I'm heterosexual... what type are you?

 

[citizenzen]

...while we ALL know that a responsible for one's own self conservative would follow your murderous manor of twisting right and wrong to appease your own whimsical desires!

What is this, free-style poetry? Put it to bongos and the patrons at the coffee house just might dig it.

 

[citizenzen]

...and one of the liberal ilk...

Once again, does anybody ever use "ilk" in a positive manner anymore?

You and your ilk!

Excuse me while I wipe up the dripping condescension.

Yuck.