War in the middle east

[LittleGreenMan]

Several mass murderers in the US were geniuses with advanced degrees in difficult subjects, suggesting that education may not be the cure for barbarism.

You can cite individual cases of anything about anything. I try to stick to speaking to populations and what is good or bad for whole peoples. There will always be good and bad individuals in every elevation of life, but the trick to obtaining a solid republic is having a population of people smart enough to see bad and shortcut bad outcomes. Our problem in America and other well-meaning states is the good people play by the rules of civil society but our enemies, internal and external, declared and hidden, well-intentioned or evil, use our laws against us to tie our hands. We need to fight fire with fire. If that means stooping to their level then that's just fine with me.

Right now, it seems that the "good" Muslims are few and far between. That's because bad Muslims will target them and kill them if necessary to shut them up. If this is starting to sound like the Woke movement and cancel culture, BLM, ESG, today's Greenpeace on steroids, it is the beginning of our end at their hands using our system against us. We are playing nice, and they are winning. Once the Hitlers, Stalins, Pol Pot, Mau, Kim, Imams, et al get the guns in place the game is lost. Look around and tell me where I’m wrong. It's even worse today with an electronic world where total supervision means you can't even walk down a street at night un-noticed, much less aggregate a force & plan response after they get control. FBI, etc., etc... Look around and tell me where I’m wrong.

 

[mark francis]

What laws did she pass making speech illegal like Christians did?

She was fired practically as soon as she attempted to get started, thank God.

 

[mark francis]

You can cite individual cases of anything about anything. I try to stick to speaking to populations and what is good or bad for whole peoples. There will always be good and bad individuals in every elevation of life, but the trick to obtaining a solid republic is having a population of people smart enough to see bad and shortcut bad outcomes. Our problem in America and other well-meaning states is the good people play by the rules of civil society but our enemies, internal and external, declared and hidden, well-intentioned or evil, use our laws against us to tie our hands. We need to fight fire with fire. If that means stooping to their level then that's just fine with me.

Right now, it seems that the "good" Muslims are few and far between. That's because bad Muslims will target them and kill them if necessary to shut them up. If this is starting to sound like the Woke movement and cancel culture, BLM, ESG, today's Greenpeace on steroids, it is the beginning of our end at their hands using our system against us. We are playing nice, and they are winning. Once the Hitlers, Stalins, Pol Pot, Mau, Kim, Imams, et al get the guns in place the game is lost. Look around and tell me where I’m wrong. It's even worse today with an electronic world where total supervision means you can't even walk down a street at night un-noticed, much less aggregate a force & plan response after they get control. FBI, etc., etc... Look around and tell me where I’m wrong.

Bible-based principles make a nation great. There is no alternative method for greatness.

 

[pjmret]

Bible-based principles make a nation great. There is no alternative method for greatness.

More vague religious babble. What makes a nation great...money? Power? Military strength? How do bible pr8nciples achieve that? Why can't other approaches achieve greatness?

 

[pjmret]

Bible-based principles make a nation great. There is no alternative method for greatness.

Which principles? Support for slavery ? Women as second class citizens? Killing non christians?

 

[LittleGreenMan]

Bible-based principles make a nation great. There is no alternative method for greatness.

You don't have to be Christian of Jewish to believe that the Ten Commandments are worthy of being your personal guidelines for how you conduct your life and judge others. I don't know, but suspect that most major religions have similar tenants. I don't recall the last time a Buddhist threatened me. Good and evil exist and good people recognize them for what they are EXCEPT, evil is most often misrepresented and disguised. Islam as now practiced is evil and needs to be overthrown from the insides and replaced with the Religion of Peace. Only the True Believers and insiders have the guns now. We outsiders have no role other than to box them in, over there, and wait for an opportunity to aid the good side. Obama had such an opportunity to help Iranians ready for change with the Green Movement. He leaned back and polished his nails. Today, his alter-ego will mouth a few righteous words, and lean back and polish his nails.

 

[pjmret]

She was fired practically as soon as she attempted to get started, thank God.

So no suppression of speech unlike Christians, no thanks to God

 

[Stalin]

Predictably, the WarParty apparatchiks who gave us Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc etc are being rolled out in a blatant display of one-sided
comment and who are foaming at the bit for more arms sales and killing.

Lets us all consign to the memory hole the constant parade of atrocity and war-crime visited upon the Palestinian
people by the fascistic clique that has seized control of the bogus state of Israel, and their paymasters, the virtual one-party United States.

Needless to say, the WarParty, all divisions, will attempt to transmute the events of the last few days into a war with Iran.

Israel is not a democracy, as all Palestinian refugees are denied the right of return as mandated by UN law, and thus the ability to vote and get rid of the egregious Netanyahu regime.

Now we can expect massive death and destruction in the world's largest and longest-lived concentration camp.

As Stalingrad demonstrated, house to house warfare in a devastated war zone does not guarantee victory for the presumed superior force.

Comrade Stalin
Donbass
Russia

 

[mark francis]

Which principles? Support for slavery ? Women as second class citizens? Killing non christians?

You fail to prove the majority of Bible believing Christians supported slavery, supported oppression of women, or supported murder of any kind at any time in history.

 

[mark francis]

Predictably, the WarParty apparatchiks who gave us Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc etc are being rolled out in a blatant display of one-sided
comment and who are foaming at the bit for more arms sales and killing.

Lets us all consign to the memory hole the constant parade of atrocity and war-crime visited upon the Palestinian
people by the fascistic clique that has seized control of the bogus state of Israel, and their paymasters, the virtual one-party United States.

Needless to say, the WarParty, all divisions, will attempt to transmute the events of the last few days into a war with Iran.

Israel is not a democracy, as all Palestinian refugees are denied the right of return as mandated by UN law, and thus the ability to vote and get rid of the egregious Netanyahu regime.

Now we can expect massive death and destruction in the world's largest and longest-lived concentration camp.

As Stalingrad demonstrated, house to house warfare in a devastated war zone does not guarantee victory for the presumed superior force.

Comrade Stalin
Donbass
Russia

Comrade Stalin, comrade Hitler, comrade Kim Jong Un and other atheist socialists, Marxists and communists proved themselves to be followers of evil, not good. Hamas and Palestinian terrorists deserve to be hunted down and shot or jailed for their wicked atrocities against innocent people.

 

[Stalin]

Hamas was initially supported financially by the apartheid Israeli state.

"..
In February 1994, Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish settler in military fatigues, massacred 29 Muslims at prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in the West Bank during the month of Ramadan. An additional 19 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the ensuing riots. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin condemned the massacre but fearing a confrontation with Hebron's violent settler community, he refused to withdraw them,[87] and Hamas swore to avenge the deaths. In a communique it announced that if Israel didn't discriminate between "fighters and civilians" then it would be "forced ... to treat the Zionists in the same manner. Treating like with like is a universal principle."

The Hebron massacre had a profound effect on Hamas' militancy. For its first seven years, it attacked only what it saw as "legitimate military targets," Israeli soldiers and military installations.[111] But following the massacre, it felt that it no longer had to distinguish between military and civilian targets. The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in the West Bank, Sheikh Ahmed Haj Ali, later argued that "had there not been the 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque massacre, there would have been no suicide bombings." Al-Rantisi in an interview in 1998 stated that the suicide attacks "began after the massacre committed by the terrorist Baruch Goldstein and intensified after the assassination of Yahya Ayyash."

Musa Abu Marzouk put the blame for the escalation on the Israelis: "We were against targeting civilians ... After the Hebron massacre we determined that it was time to kill Israel's civilians ... we offered to stop if Israel would, but they rejected that offer."[113]

According to Matti Steinberg, former advisor to Shin Bet and one of Israel's leading experts on Hamas, the massacre laid to rest an internal debate within Hamas on the usefulness of indiscriminate violence: "In the Hamas writings there is an explicit prohibition against indiscriminate harm to helpless people. The massacre at the mosque released them from this taboo and introduced a dimension of measure for measure, based on citations from the Koran."

Hamas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[mark francis]

Hamas was initially supported financially by the apartheid Israeli state.

"..
In February 1994, Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish settler in military fatigues, massacred 29 Muslims at prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in the West Bank during the month of Ramadan. An additional 19 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the ensuing riots. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin condemned the massacre but fearing a confrontation with Hebron's violent settler community, he refused to withdraw them,[87] and Hamas swore to avenge the deaths. In a communique it announced that if Israel didn't discriminate between "fighters and civilians" then it would be "forced ... to treat the Zionists in the same manner. Treating like with like is a universal principle."

The Hebron massacre had a profound effect on Hamas' militancy. For its first seven years, it attacked only what it saw as "legitimate military targets," Israeli soldiers and military installations.[111] But following the massacre, it felt that it no longer had to distinguish between military and civilian targets. The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in the West Bank, Sheikh Ahmed Haj Ali, later argued that "had there not been the 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque massacre, there would have been no suicide bombings." Al-Rantisi in an interview in 1998 stated that the suicide attacks "began after the massacre committed by the terrorist Baruch Goldstein and intensified after the assassination of Yahya Ayyash."

Musa Abu Marzouk put the blame for the escalation on the Israelis: "We were against targeting civilians ... After the Hebron massacre we determined that it was time to kill Israel's civilians ... we offered to stop if Israel would, but they rejected that offer."[113]

According to Matti Steinberg, former advisor to Shin Bet and one of Israel's leading experts on Hamas, the massacre laid to rest an internal debate within Hamas on the usefulness of indiscriminate violence: "In the Hamas writings there is an explicit prohibition against indiscriminate harm to helpless people. The massacre at the mosque released them from this taboo and introduced a dimension of measure for measure, based on citations from the Koran."

Hamas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ther is no excuse for torturing and murdering innocent women and children. Once Hamas resorts to those kinds of atrocities they seal their deserved doom.

 

[Stalin]

Indeed there is not.

There is a difference between an excuse and a reason.

Remind me how many Palestinians have been killed by the Israeli war machine in the last 70 years

Comrade Stalin
Donbass

 

[pjmret]

You fail to prove the majority of Bible believing Christians supported slavery, supported oppression of women, or supported murder of any kind at any time in history.

Lol the country was founded and run by Christians duh
The country had all those principles because the majority supported them duh

You just can't admit Christians did these things which is just pathetic on your part

 

[Fisher Tide]

Hamas surprise attack out of Gaza stuns Israel and leaves hundreds dead in fighting, retaliation

Backed by a barrage of rockets, Hamas militants stormed from the blockaded Gaza Strip into nearby Israeli towns, killing dozens and abducting others in an unprecedented surprise attack during a major Jewish holiday Saturday. A stunned Israel launched airstrikes in Gaza, with its prime minister...

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Not sure if they will actually go to war with Hamas, but they are a terrorist group , and they ma2y have unleashed the dragon on them selve

In the context of the enduring Palestinian-Israeli conflict, a tumultuous struggle spanning millennia, long before even the rise of the Roman Empire, I feel compelled to express my perspective on this deeply rooted issue. My aim here is not to advocate for specific actions, but rather to convey my position in the hope of fostering understanding and meaningful dialogue, despite the historical complexities that have defined this region for over ten thousand years.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict, with its roots stretching back to the dawn of recorded history, is steeped in an ancient tapestry of grievances, political tensions, religious disputes, and territorial claims. For over ten millennia, the peoples of this region have witnessed the rise and fall of empires, the ebb and flow of cultures, and the shifting sands of power. This enduring conflict is a testament to the indomitable human spirit and the resilient nature of the human experience.

Throughout this long history, there have been moments when the prospect of peaceful coexistence appeared elusive, and yet, it is crucial to recognize that during this extended time frame, there have also been instances of harmony and cooperation among the diverse communities in the region. The conflicts that have marred this land are by no means inevitable or insurmountable.

The recent intensification of violence in the context of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict once again underscores the profound human toll exacted by this ongoing struggle. Innocent civilians, including children and women, bear the heaviest burdens. Families are torn apart, lives are shattered, and futures denied. The pain and suffering endured by individuals and communities transcend national borders and beliefs.

In this ongoing battle, no one emerges as a true victor. The violence perpetuates a cycle of suffering, and it is my position that a shift towards empathy, understanding, and compassion is essential, even in the face of the historical backdrop that has perpetuated this conflict.

As someone not directly involved or from the region, I am but a brother to all of humanity. I plead my case as such, rooted in the shared responsibility we hold toward one another, irrespective of our diverse backgrounds or beliefs. Instead of advocating for specific actions, I extend a deep seated hope for open dialogue, understanding, and empathy. Through these means, I hope that one and all may begin to bridge the divides and collectively seek a just and lasting solution to this protracted conflict, with the hope that, even after ten thousand years of strife, peace is an attainable goal.

F. Tide