Threat to democracy

[pjmret]

Until the new hope and change democrat tribe came along candidates were chosen by voters in elections, not by democrat committee heads.

actually for both parties the candidates are chosen by elected delegate vote, as happened now. that's how its been for a long, long time, moooron. lol
just like how the president is chosen by a vote of elected delegates from each state.

are you against the electoral college now? or just being a hypocritical mooron?

my god you are truly a political mooron. lol

 

[mark francis]

actually for both parties the candidates are chosen by elected delegate vote, as happened now. that's how its been for a long, long time, moooron. lol
just like how the president is chosen by a vote of elected delegates from each state.

are you against the electoral college now? or just being a hypocritical mooron?

my god you are truly a political mooron. lol

Are you suggesting that the electoral college appoints primary candidates without the necessity for public elections?

 

[Randomguy]

Until the new hope and change democrat tribe came along candidates were chosen by voters in elections, not by democrat committee heads.

Yer lying again.

 

[Randomguy]

Are you suggesting that the electoral college appoints primary candidates without the necessity for public elections?

You cannot hide your ignorance behind inane questions. Google it!

 

[Scooby]

That is EXACTLY how they are chosen.

You are being extremely dishonest here pretending that Harris earned the nomination using the typical process.

Typically, the voters (either in a statewide primary or a caucus) vote for a candidate and that candidate is awarded a certain number of delegates based on the outcome of the election. Joe Biden won something like 99% of pledged delegates (and Harris wasn't even on the ballot for President).

It is unprecedented in American history for a nominee to have a majority of delegates going into the convention and withdraw from the race. All those delegates went to Harris because the people that control the Democrat Party decided they would, not because she received a single vote from the general population of Democrat voters.

 

[Scooby]

You are kind of correct. That’s what happens when your candidate drops out late in the process. What happened was not only according to dnc rules but also legal.

Political parties are technically private institutions who can implement any rules they want for how they select their nominee. There are no laws saying what they can and can't do.

I can create "The Scooby Political Party" and make rule #1 "Scooby shall be the POTUS nominee of the Scooby Political Party" and that's perfectly legal. Now getting on the statewide ballots may not be so easy because I need a minimum number of supporters, but the Scooby Political Party can legally nominate whomever we darn well feel like using whatever rules we darn well feel like (assuming that person is eligible to hold the office).

I have no problem with what happened. Biden dropped out. Had Biden died in office she would be president without getting a vote. All legal.

Well, she did get votes for her current position of vice president. She was rightfully elected to her current position which, as we all know, puts her first in line for the Presidency should Biden die in office (or resign or be removed).

She didn't receive a single vote for Presidential nominee. Now, as I mentioned above, you don't need to be elected to be the party's nominee. The democrats can do whatever they want, but certain people in here need to stop spinning this into some sort of mass public support for Harris. Had it been an open nomination voted on by the people of the democrat party, she probably would not have won.

 

[Scooby]

The opposite of democracy is dictatorship. It would be absurd to claim that Harris was elected dictatorially.

She hasn't been elected to the Presidency; she is nominated for the Presidency. HUGE difference.

And, if we are being honest, she secured the nomination by a small number of democrat party leaders selecting her.

 

[Randomguy]

You are being extremely dishonest here pretending that Harris earned the nomination using the typical process.

Not a good start for you. I do not have to pretend she earned the nomination. She won the nomination according to democratic rules of the Democratic Party.

And I never claimed or pretended this was a typical orocess

Not a good start for you. When you start with two lies, the rest of your post does k no or deserve responding to.

 

[Randomguy]

She hasn't been elected to the Presidency; she is nominated for the Presidency. HUGE difference.

And, if we are being honest, she secured the nomination by a small number of democrat party leaders selecting her.

She was elected as the nominee.

Small or large that is dem procedure.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

It was obviously too late to hold a series of primary elections, as there has never been a situation in which an incumbent president has decided not to run. It seems to me that Democrats are quite happy with Kamala as their nominee. The Republicans have chosen the LEAST qualified person ever as their candidate. They do not care about destroying our democracy so this convicted felon can stay out of the prison he so richly deserves to be sentenced to.

 

[Scooby]

Not a good start for you. I do not have to pretend she earned the nomination. She won the nomination according to democratic rules of the Democratic Party.

And I never claimed or pretended this was a typical orocess

Yeah, you kinda really are trying to tell people here that she won the nomination the way it is typically done.

Not a good finish for you. You lie and mislead and then don't even have the courage of your own convictions.

Not a good start for you. When you start with two lies, the rest of your post does k no or deserve responding to.

And yet, here you are responding to everything I posted. Guess that speaks volumes about you.

 

[Scooby]

She was elected as the nominee.

No, she really wasn't. She was selected, not elected. It is all perfectly legal, but that's what happened.

And you know it.

 

[Randomguy]

Yeah, you kinda really are trying to tell people here that she won the nomination the way it is typically done.

I made no such claim. Typically candidates do not step down so late in the process. And she did win the nomination. That’s an insuperable fact.

 

[Randomguy]

No, she really wasn't. She was selected, not elected. It is all perfectly legal, but that's what happened.

And you know it.

Since delegates voted she was elected.

 

[Scooby]

I made no such claim. Typically candidates do not step down so late in the process. And she did win the nomination. That’s an insuperable fact.

"People voted for delegates. Delegates voted for Harris. That is the way it is done all the time." - Randomguy (direct quote)

You are dishonestly trying to behave as if this past summer's nomination process was the typical process we see every 4 years - and are making a complete fool of yourself in the process.