Prove that God doesn't exist.

[dahermit]

but you can infer that there must have been a builder.

Of a house, yes. Of living cells no. Current science views evaluational changes in cells as a natural process. Only the religious try to compare it to a house.

 

[rationalist]

The builder argunment is self defeating.

You have to say where the builder came from ad infinitum

 

[PLC1]

The builder argunment is self defeating.

You have to say where the builder came from ad infinitum

The builders are eternal. They have always been.

 

[rationalist]

A convenient lie

 

[PLC1]

A convenient lie

So you say, with nothing to back up your statement.

 

[rationalist]

I am not the one making ludicrous statements that have no basis in fact or logic to prop up my superstition

You have just made up the point about the builder being eternal.

It has no argumentative value whatsoever.

 

[rationalist]

Look, here's a little help for you from someone who sees the world much more clearly than you.

You have three things.

Your belief
Evidence
Logic.

When all three don't align it is probably safe to say that the best candidate for change is the belief.

I realise that christians try both of the other candidates and cling desperately and sometimes heroically to the belief but even they would baulk at someone who did this in any other sphere of life.

So they are not even consistent.

I am embarrassed for them.

 

[OldTrapper]

Look, here's a little help for you from someone who sees the world much more clearly than you.

And that would be who? If it is you then surely you jest.

You have three things.

Your belief
Evidence
Logic.

When all three don't align it is probably safe to say that the best candidate for change is the belief.

Is that not the same for you?

My belief is based on faith that the other two factors would not exist save for the existence of God.

The evidence is in all of nature from the complicated configuration of the eye, to the simplistic form of grass, or the amoeba. It also exists in the very concept of the universe in which every factor is strictly arranged for balance including that of our solar system. If even one planet was off by one degree no life would exist.

Logic makes the argument that in any form of science, especially that of mathematics, coincidence, or the thoery of chance, could not explain how such complicated forms of life could occur.

Nor has science been able to explain from what matter the earth, or the universe, was formed.

Now, since God is not made of matter, He is a spiritual being, how can you explain away what logic demands must exist?

And please make a compelling argument rather then the BS you most often post.

I realise that christians try both of the other candidates and cling desperately and sometimes heroically to the belief but even they would baulk at someone who did this in any other sphere of life.

So they are not even consistent.

I am embarrassed for them.

You should be embarrased for yourself, not for others. Most often I find no logical reasoning for the non-existence of God. Like you most often do, the argument mostly exists only in mockery for ones beliefs.

 

[rationalist]

Faith is believing in something for which you don't have fact and or reason to back up.

It is like saying...''this is what I believe and I know it does not stand up to logical scrutiny'

Which is fine if a little daft.

 

[Free Palestine]

For all non-believers (atheists), what evidence would you accept as proof of the existence of god?

Now that all you believers are nodding you head sagely; for all you believers, what evidence would you accept as proof that god does not exist? Also, what evidence do you have that there is only one god? lastly, what makes you so dammed gullible?

I regard to the points in the quoted post, they are simplistic to the point where it is evident that the author has a basic lack of the understanding of science. Therefore, there is no point in responding inasmuch as he would not have the ability to understand anyway.

The illustration of a house representing the complexity of the existence of life on earth is a dullards rationalization...something one would hear from the pulpit or in a children's Sunday School class.

I meant to use simple examples to prove it so that all people can think in it simply because it is really simple . This doesn't mean a lack of knowledge about science anyway . I surely know very good knowledge about science and the example of the house is only to perove that there is nothing without a maker . This is the point which is logically very true and you are determined not to believe it !! .

 

[top gun]

 

[Devil505]

Here's my proof:

 

[rationalist]

Stunning post and absolute proof that god does not exist

 

[PLC1]

Stunning post and absolute proof that god does not exist

It wasn't god who elected those two to the WH, it was us. It was god who told them to invade Iraq, however.

 

[rationalist]

No, you are wrong.

The people of the US got it wrong.

They elected Al Gore so the devil interfered to ensure that these two could ply their evil trade.

And where was god?

He was not existing, that's where he was.