Prove that God doesn't exist.

Does God exist?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 63 59.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 44 41.5%

  • Total voters
    106
Good question, which god he means.
In the old days people didn't understand the sun, moon and a lot more, so they thought that there MUST be a higher someone/-thing who could create that. And why not call that someone/-thing god.
Don't believe everything people say, unless you experienced it yourself! :-)
 
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I voted yes, that God exists.

I know the truth of that personally.

But from an objective perspective, since cosmological nothing does not exist, only that which we would call God would have the eternal knowledge and power to keep nothing at bay.

How each of us experiences God realistically or fantasizes God unrealistically is another matter entirely.

We are spiritual beings, and by spiritual I don't mean having a "soul" that may have lived before and/or will live after we die, but instead that we exist as a being-presence living entity in an ephemeral state that transcends physicality.

I imagine that only a spiritually evolved being could fathom the awesomeness of God.
 
oh, and BTW just about all religion is passed on by parents brainswashing their children. You know that christian parents take their children to church as soon as they can and teach them about god at home. they certainly don't leave them to make their own mind up. Ditto for all religions.

That is why most religious people in the west are christians and most people in the middle east are muslims.

Most people in China are Taoists

Or do you think that by some miracle these different religions manifested themselves specifically in those regions?

If there was one true god surely he isn't sufficiently racist to only reveal himsefl in certain countries.

Yet another bus sized hole in the idea of religion.

You really have to suspend reason to be a christian don't you.

I wonder why god made believing in him so hard.

And gave so little (none) evidence of his existence leaving his poor flock to cling to arcane discredited pseudo-intellectual arguments for his existence.


First I'd like to say...snakes do talk, I do it very well:)

IMO, religion and faith are two different things. Religion is man made. Faith is what I have in God, knowing He's there, and not having to worry about proving it one way or the other.

In your defense, I lived your way (as far as the Bible) for over 40 years. And I learned a few things. Science is something that would be the last thing that I would depend on to explain anything. Wait a few years and they'll change their minds again.

Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism are the three leading religions in China. But here again you have religion, even though it's not Christian. Their God just has a different name, as in the case of Budda who achieved the level of Nervana.

I don't see God as racist...that's something we should take full credit for. As to why he has only revealed himself in certain countries...how do we know he hasn't? Because He hasn't been on the 5 o'clock news? It was always strange that people tried harder to disavow He's existence, then the other way around. So, IMO, they probably wouldn't have known he was there anyway. This I'll explain futrther on.

I don't see why anyone would have to suspend reason, to believe. You believe in science and what they tell you? Do you accept someone else opinion as being fact? It would seem that's what you are doing when you believe in science. I wouldn't suspect that you would. I know I didn't. But I also believe that science in man's knowledge, just like anything else, and it's fallible. So if they can be wrong about one thing(like they said about Mars) they can be wrong about something else. And it's my choice to accept or not.

Believing in God, IMO, isn't hard...you either do or you don't...how hard is that? I choose to believe, you choose not to. Where's the problem? But, yes, one of us is right and the other is wrong. And the last time I checked there's only 100% way to find out...that's by dying.

I think He's left me lot's of things to show His presence...I just look at my kids and grand & great grandkids. I look at them as His gift to me, I'm sure you'd look at it differently.

But why did I find that your way thinking wasn't for me. After two major heart attacks in three years, the last one doing the most damage. All three doctors told me I should have been on a slab. My wife is a very strong believer in God and He heard he prayers. Now, should I give the doctors credit...sure I do, they did a bang up job of putting me back together. But...the best surgical team in the world won't do you a bit of good unless you're on the table in front of them. Winters in Minn. are brutal, and any slip up anywhere along the line. I give credit where credit is due. I give God His fair share.

I don't believe that trying to convience you or anyone else, that God's real or exist, is something I should do. I let you know, what I think...what I feel, but in the long run, you are the one who has to decide.

But please to meet ya.


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As to why he has only revealed himself in certain countries...how do we know he hasn't? Because He hasn't been on the 5 o'clock news?

God reveals himself to every single person on the planet. Some listen and some don't. Beyond that it is easier for a person living in a God following culture to listen than for someone living in a non-God-following culture. That is not an excuse to not listen but it will be taken into account by God in anyone's defense.

That being said, it is my opinion that only a small percentage of people living in the supposedly Christian United States have listened which seems to be roughly the same as the percentage who have listened in other countries. Perhaps it is far less a matter of culture than the first paragraph would imply.
 
Have you experienced the curvature of the earth? Or the existence of your own intestines?

I am 15 feet tall. You have not experienced otherwise, and I've got a church of people backing me up. Until you experience me, you can only assume I am 15 feet tall.

What you choose to accept comes down to rational thinking. I have rationally thought about the Christian God, and decided I don't think he exists. One of the grounds on which I rejected his existence was certainly that I had never experienced him.
 
I am 15 feet tall. You have not experienced otherwise, and I've got a church of people backing me up. Until you experience me, you can only assume I am 15 feet tall.

What you choose to accept comes down to rational thinking. I have rationally thought about the Christian God, and decided I don't think he exists. One of the grounds on which I rejected his existence was certainly that I had never experienced him.

That opinion is yours and you are welcome to it.

If, however, I see you start to say that you are totally logical, rational, empirical, scientific or whatever and that you know therefore that God does not exist I will point out the illogic of that.
 
I can look at the contradictions and history of Christianity and come to the informed decision its tosh. I cannot, however, prove that there is not some kind of creating deity.
 
I am 15 feet tall. You have not experienced otherwise, and I've got a church of people backing me up. Until you experience me, you can only assume I am 15 feet tall.

...You understand my point was that not having direct sensory experience of a thing is not proof of its non-existence? I have never seen my own intestines, for instance, but it can be rationally deduced that they exist.

And the logical argument for God does not depend on the existence of a church or, indeed, anyone to accept it. As numinus has said elsewhere, no amount of religious fervor can bestow logic on an illogical proposition.
 
Yes, I understand your point SW85, and I agree with you. However, I was trying to show you that it cannot be used as a supporting argument for God within its own right, but now I understand that you were never putting it foward as such a thing.
 
All Christians are going to hell! Barack Obama is!

Now that I reasoned God? Forget most of what I said. I was trying to get you to begin thinking of the universe in a different way as you crate your reality via beliefs and any belief you have that you consider inviolate then will be realized. A belief is not supposed to be so rigid that you cannot amend it or abandoned it. Think of US law: We never change the words in the two governing documents but only on the third piece of paper -we tack on amendments. This allows us to experiment – to fine tune it – and we can then revoke those amendments if the do not work just like we can overturn federal rulings like Bush V Gore. A belief is like an amendment; a true belief is like a law. Law is not set in stone as even E=MC2 can change? How? E=MC2 is a law under certain specific conditions. Change those conditions and you change the law. Which brings me to:

I can now prove beyond any doubt that Hugh Everett and people like Max Tegmark are correct. Neils Bohr is mistaken. To prove God and so unify it all I had to re-examine every single solitary thing I had ever been taught as “fact”. Once I reasoned it beyond reasonable doubt or sometimes beyond any doubt I then went and looked to see if any science existed to back me up and it did. For instance, Bruce Cathie’s work matches my own. I know he is correct re physical uniformity or harmonic convergence. He however did not unify it all as he completely neglected his mother and so did not reason himself into the universe, lol. The metaphysical. A good example of this is Dr.Oz on Oprah showing you that the vagus nerve is related to the changes that occur when you meditate.

This universe, a part of a multiverse or many worlds, is a duality. Like wave & particle, matter & antimatter, male & female and id & ego it is all a duality. Now, like all of creation is light? So are people. People are nature and are light. We are created by the electromagnetic filed as Earth is. People are elegant physically so they exactly reflect all of nature. You’ll see yourself everywhere: Don’t you have a molten iron core? Yes, your iron based blood infused tissue. Don’t you have a Sun? Yes, your brain. Don’t you have an electromagnetic filed? Yes and you know what else? You even blow like a volcano as humans become angry and so violent thus they erupt. Their crust or someone else’s crust ‘cracks’ then molten iron – blood – comes pouring out. Einstein and others postulate the Earth’s core rotates separately from its crust…yes, as do some people and what happens to a person when they have a core, a self or soul, rotating at a different speed than their outside appearance? Get it? People however are not elegant inside –that soul – as you do not live out US law in word and spirit. You say you do and some of you fake it well as your actions seem to match your words but then your intention and motivation is off. I proved US law is elegant and reflects this universe; it actually is as above so below for Earth, people & US law. IF the physical is in harmonic convergence i.e. unified with the metaphysical. All I did was live out US law as reality until boom! Newton’s alchemy and then a diamond self: All seven sacred experiences of God. You can have one, three or seven. Maybe someday they’ll be 8 or 9. The most helpful thing I did?

What you are not willing to do as I was born this way: Live out the equal protection and due process clauses. It is not enough to say you believe or to ‘allow’ all other belief systems as in other religions but you must then practice it. This universe is a system, then systems within it. So is American life. Like Hinduism we have one guiding law but then thousands of ‘deities’ underneath it: Catholicism, Republicanism, Creationism, Libertarianism, Existentialism and even…medicine and science as they too are belief systems and they too have a fault line: Dogma, accepted and believed as fact w/o question or law. It cannot be questioned. Or else. That is giving your legal power and mral authority away to another and in America, that is illegal. YOU decide and choose; you are to be self-governing and so self-adjudicating. You reason and decide your own case, your own life. Your beliefs become realized; your seemingly invisible intentions and motivations become realized in this physical world so your hidden heart or agenda can be seen! I can know it as you’ll display a pattern.

Unlike Einstein, I know people and I developed an equation just as he did. E=MC2? I did it! Lived it out as real. Which brings us to Time, as spontaneous not linear. Ladies, this is where you have an edge over men as the logical mind hell bent upon reason alone cannot wrap itself around time as spontaneous as it requires a different kind of brain. One you have as a result of discrimination as that injury, that emotional assault & battery is tailored made to produce a brain that is right sided. Right side thinking is theory, religion, the metaphysical; it sees the whole not the absolute. That brain sees a person and sees the whole person, they hear or feel the emotional truth, and do not automatically absolute that person to death. If you can remember faces well? Maybe too well? You absolute people to death; your thinking overly left sided, in pieces not wholes. So, if you have not been injured to a point of disability then a right brained thinker can grasp this complex concept as you can turn it around in your mind and ‘see’ it:

Time is not the same thing as space. Stop saying the space-time continuum. Time and place is space. Time is an element, another thing. It is infinity. Linear time is something ur logical minds made up when humans began to feel and express fear or Ego. The ‘light’ or ‘knowing’ in Genesis. Eve? She always had power within her; she always could give birth she never needed to do so. She began to doubt her worth and so made the emotionally reasoned decision to eat the apple, as she placed her power in an outside thing. Her power was never anything outside of herself. She and Adam had a constitutional crisis and they issued a federal decision with a fault in their line of reasoning: They not once considered safety and they did not believe their Creator would and did love them unconditionally. They tested that. Adam feared too thus blaming Eve for what he did of his own will when he knew better. He knew the law and ignorance is not an excuse! Adam and eve were lawyers who represented themselves in Eden. Prostitution is not the world’s oldest profession as lawyering is. Constitutional law as we had a contract or covenant with God. We are God’s living government and living law so, please, always keep the declaration and constitution in your heart and mind as YOU are the ark of the covenant as WE are. Americans actually do have the power fo God on their side IF they wake up and so choose. As it is today? You have all failed as this government died with the exception of me: The one and only pro se case of constitutional authority and original jurisdiction in world history and ad I was then made to do the impossible twice! I had to go back again as you al failed again as the Court threw it to you. Evry single office of government is now unchecked as that is what has happened, a coup has occurred, if the Chief first unchecks himself by installing a President thus making law and then the President turns around and unchecks himself by installing a Chief based on something other than old age. Simultaneously or spontaneously you combusted and only I noticed. Ready? Infinite American became finite America. As you believed as fact w/o question that you were powerless to stop the Supreme Court from making law so you then made that real. You all violated the covenant. You overthrew US law as you unchecked yourselves first by not voting. I then conducted my own experiment as in America you are the experimenter and experiment: I decided to test the law and the spirit of the law as your one vote makes you able to write executive orders as it allows you to ascend inot the office of the President and commander in Chief if you can make the cae. All you have to do is get there legally and then you are it no matter what any person says or does. YOU then are President not the actual person sitting in the actual office as he or she never had LEGAL power only illegal power. A President gets their power from you, as you have to live it out. It is of the people by the people or based upon your authority and your consent. However, that has to be in accordance with our law not whatever you want or allow. So. We have now had TWO Presidents simultaneously or spontaneously, me and Bush Jr. I’m legal he’s actual. I have the power while he has the material garbage. The only way he has been able to do anything as have the crooks within his administration is you let them walk all over you crying you were powerless when none of you were. You are all in denial, as you do not want to admit to the emotionally painful truth: YOU have engaged in genocide.
 
Bush V Gore became a proof of death ruling whereby you require citizens do die in defense of the institution or the preservation of the system as mostly male and two parties only, and almost exclusively Christian and Jewish, with offices bought and sold so that justice is then bought and sold. Bush V gore became a ruling, the IDEA became a ruling that was realized in the physical plane of existence as Schiavo, Castlerock and In Re susan 1, etc. etc. whereby INNOCENT male and female citizens are now put ot death via arbitrary decisions of the federal court not based on anything or based upon faulty reasoning. Castlerock floored me; the state opened with DO not rule against domestic violence as it will cost too much. Male dominated legislatures do not want to pay out for the injury they have caused women with deliberation. See, police officers did to Gonzales what they tried to do to me: Renegotiate safety by talking her out of enforcing the order of protection she had thus her 3 daughters were murdered. In front of the police station. The Court not only agreed they then said NO AMERICAN HAS A RIGHT OF SAFETY AS THE POLICE DO NOT HAVE TO PROTECT YOU. Excuse me, SAFETY is a named right and w/o it WE do not exist as that is why our Revolution was fought, a safety issue as all safety issues, actual safety issues, are life and death; they are constitutional criseses and so that is why an American NEVER negotiates their safety. Cops arguing you out of pressing charges or arguing you out of doing their jobs is the negotiation of a negative contract which then means it is unconstitutional.

I checked; the lawyers brought the wrong argument forward but the Court insisted it was not only money. Oh yeah? Then you reason Nicholson V Scopetta for me, a case sent ot you that you refused to hear as it had TOO MANY constitutional issues. Thast menas, it would cost too much or not enough unjust privilege for men as no woman can have too many rights only equal rights. We have not once not ever gotten a federal ruling like Brown. We’re the only group still waiting. Scopetta was sent back to the Appellate without any reasoning named. GOTCHA! The Court may do that as a privilege; it can deny hearing and deny issuing a reason but not in every and nay case it so pleases as:

Women are injured still due to rulings of this court. You have unclean hands US Supreme Court so you may not do this and further, it seems we now have a conflict of interests as you are a 8-1 male majority in 2007 and due to Bush V Gore which I always defied any way I could so I’m squeaky clean, an 8-1 male majority translates to: Taxation w/o representation as the executive, the office of President, might not be all male nor would the chief Justice IF bush had not been installed. Only a president and only a Chief justice can make law on behalf of us as they are equivalent legal authorities thus this makes me the legal President and Commander in Chief if I can get within the court thus STANDING DOWN BOTH THE PRESIDENT & CHIEF JUSTICE. My one vote gives me this power as every citizen is equal to the President thus the Chief thanks to john Marshall as he made that real via Marbury. He said you answer only to yourself and God. So, I began standing down every single office of government from the local level to the President in all three branches. It took me years but I finally made it to, within US Supreme Court. THUS:
 
I heard every one of your complaints. I took notes. Along the way I formulated solutions. Want an alternative to oil? Free energy? I have it! I am brilliant; I know all about the fourth state of matter – plasma – and Tesla. I know all about perpetual motion or cold fusion and scalar electromagnetic. I even found photos of early prototype generators which were sunk by oil companies. And then I found…Retired LT. Colnel tom beard who has advanced degrees in several disciplines who has a working model of a generator Congress does not want you to know about. He and a group of partners have been desperately petitioning Congress w/o any success so they have been working alone. THIS is what Tesla played with as did Ed Leedeskin of Coral Castle fame and my own self as it is all based upon but is not the unifying force which I defined and proved. These guys used it but had no idea or little understanding of what they ‘discovered’ as even the ancient Egyptians used it to build the Pyramids. You can ask Cathie: He found an account of Tibetan monks moving stones with sound waves. He did the math. It works. You can access the unified filed or use it with the unified force. All I did was…unify it all. So then:

You spontaneously or simultaneously have two Presidents. One is killing you. The other? Naming the Chief exactly for a direct violation of her civil rights based only upon woman and genius and: more will, as she was most willing to suffer and sacrifice whatever it took. The Chief Justice and the court have now twice over obeyed Executive Orders I have written out on paper and signed as the “acting, legal President and Commander’ thus acknowledging my authority. YOU however have continued to deny reality and so commit genocide and murder; to injure, maim and kill w/o reason or cause. You cannot wrap your heads around it as it defies all you were taught to believe as fact w/o question. WHO told you that your vote was not yours, that the entire law could be trashed and the the President and Chief could invoke the power of God over you? WHO told you a woman could do what I did? It’s woman & genius as that is all that is different. Guess what? Reality is: If Bush could do it then I can so why do you insist I am not the acting, legal President when I have the Chief doing what I order NOT George Bush Jr. or any other citizen? The founders told you: A coup would be silent; it would occur if the citizens gave away their liberty rights or if women never got them. They said if this happens, if this exact situation ever happens, as it MIGHT but its unimaginable, ACT: Rise up in anger and take back the offices of government by any means necessary as next comes a military backed violent coup and/or civil war. Self-defense is legal and ANY action if all offices have been unchecked is then legal. Why?

If the law accords you zero protection it then does not find you. Find you guilty. This election? It is life or death and You have chosen DEATH. If any of the clowns on any ballot could do what I can then they would be in US Supreme Court. None of the people you are voting for can or will preserve, protect or defend the law - you, as you are a constitution and you are to become the living embodiment of the law. My current case?

I told the US Supreme Court: I must now ask this court WHY it is seeking to kepp the people ignorant as ignorance is not an excuse so it can only mean you are out ot protect men, 3 exact men named Bush, Cheney and Roberts, as those are the exact people who ill answer to me thus you have motivation and intent to cause me and then all Americans harm, to commit treason, in order to then secure your salaries and perks –your seats, or, if it is treason your life. This court answers to me then to the people so if this is not your intent then what is it? I have proof of your intention towards us: Your faulty reasoning and the outside conditions of our lives known as THE STATE OF THE NATION. You work for us we do not work for you. This is not the will of the people. I know, as I’m one of the people. Maybe every other citizen is scared of you but I’m not as we’re equal as my one vote levels the playing field but my moral authority, my will, trumps you. In this nation we are subject to terms not conditions; you then do not get to change the conditions. Do we not call your office a term? If you change the condition as in “I do not have to obey the law but they do” then I can end your term via my right of dissolution. As I know what forms dissolution takes, here I am as in America, you do not square off against each other but square up with the law so then, you can stand aside and let me pass or stand down.

I went so far so to write, to state: I can and may shoot. The law and all prior federal precedent support this. Your own words will serve to prove me innocent so, I might get arrested but I will not remain in jail long and I will never be convicted. I have chosen my course of action: I have shot paper. My paper had better start killing some mistaken beliefs soon – like the one you have in your heads that says you can break the law – or else. It is not accident or coincidence that you just ruled we do have a right to own weapons. While your reasoning is completely faulty and so wrong but your answer is correct, this then makes me a well regulated militia of one and so, as this is a coup, a coup has occurred and so is, I may shoot as may any American.

Now, I died and was buried on the docket. I arose. I ascended. I then had a second coming. Does then make me the Second coming of Jesus Christ? God? No. It makes me the person who cracked the code and so then wiled it into being as I know time is simultaneous or spontaneous, infinity, and that this is a multiverse, and so while it seems as if, it is not.
 
It is not cause and effect as you think of it. The IDEA is the cause and so you create yourselves. God said BE – he had an IDEA so we were. The collective unconsciousness Jung spoke of ‘fell’ to Earth. Our spirits or souls manifested themselves in physical matter. So yes, we have a Creator. We’re human so we have an IDEA we then must act upon. God? God merely has to think and boom. We must act; we must become realized or self-actualized. We must act to become the most God-like we can. We are equal creators. All of this? It came into being within time. Time is; nobody invented it or created it. Think of time as God, as the all encompassing. All of creation came into it at once, spontaneously, as Genesis says. All probabilities have been played out by God. Nothing is set in stone, pre-destiny is only that you were spirit once and will be again, and that is up to you. YOU? We all agreed to come here. What you perceive to be the collective unconscious? You make it conscious, you become aware of your Creator, by acting ethically and living in the now, dealing with things as they are. You do not ignore bush V gore as it will never ever go away or become better. It is disorder that became Chaos so you will dissolve at some point both physically and metaphysically.


Now, You came here as several probabilities. In this dimension or universe you are living out one of those probabilities. In another? You are living out another. When seeming coincidences happen? You are running into yourself; you are crossing paths! Reincarnation? It seems as if we do that, and seems as if we have a past and future, as appearances are deceiving. That is our logical mind trying to rationalize what we do not understand and so it is so scary we conveniently dismiss or discard what is not coincidence but reality. As I had every sacred experience of God to be had that we know of so far, and then I ascended into the office of President thus becoming the President and Commander, I achieved enlightenment. I can tell that all major religions have most of this correct and that all of your beliefs are compatible. Like our law, you might have to amend some but nothing will then undermine whatever faith you are. For instance, reincarnation is not reality; it is close to reality but what we are and do is not that. Can Buddhists abandon this belief as the Dalia Lama said they would if I could prove it not reality but still be Buddhist as he himself is said to be reincarnated? YES, as he is what he says he and what Buddhist say he is; he’s that person. He just was not reincarnated.

The choice is made to act upon your probable selves; you play out whatever you need to play out or volunteered to play out as God forces nothing on you. You choose. Physical existence is meant to teach us via the experience. We all effect each other; ALL of us effect all other people and then all of creation. Your consciousness that is of God sort of has a theme. Not a mission or quest per se but a theme. It is the thing you are trying to accomplish or teach others and yourself. You might be born into a family of teachers or into a family of doctors. Maybe you were born poor and poor is a theme cycle you see and feel. Whatever outside conditions you are born into are meant to then propel you to ‘ascend’ - go back to God, or to the universe as spirit. All the probable selves you have that will be played out are all existing now. It seems as they are not, that we have a past and future, as human consciousness is like links in a chain. Ask yourself: Do we all drop ‘dead’ at once? Nooooo. So that evidence of self we leave behind is then deposited in another person or people – the people still here. Like a living museum. It then seems as if you run into yourself or the same things as another probable self ‘crosses’ your life. Ever fell as if you knew someone? You DO, as you have been playing out probable selves. Well, if your black haired probable self who is a lawyer then interacts with a person, wouldn’t your blonde haired teacher? If you changed, if God told you that you needed it or you merely wanted it as you thought it would be helpful and God did not veto that choice, wouldn’t both selves make some of the same choices? Wouldn’t you cross paths with some or all of the same people? Your theme would be the same but your choices would not as we are born into will and liberty. Go back to Adam and Eve:

If you can overcome the injury that cast us out of Eden, you unite your male and female selves and then unite with God. I know as it happened to me. Part of that injury? Deceiving appearances so that we can’t do things at times like recognize the devil or a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Or a crook in a female body in front of the title speaker of the house waving an embossed pen set at you. One of the reasons linear time seems so real and is so hard to wrap your heads around? The seasons! Science says that is a result of an ancient volcanic eruption. The Earth sits at a 23.5 degree tilt. Well, science has been predicting another such eruption. They are correct.

I can prove god, the creation or intrinsic force using the same thing Einstein did to prove part of Relativity: Nature. I know what moves the magnetic north Pole. I entered it to Supreme Court. The pole will decide that volcanic eruption. It up to us where it occurs, here – the Yellowstone Caldera or there – Italy. As long as that pole continues to move away from us it will happen HERE. Science is having a heart attack as men are envious and jealous of me as I did what they could not and science is also in denial as science rules out ANYTHING involving God or your soul and does not like to admit they have made huge mistakes like teaching Darwin as fact when it is not. Darwin was wrong; he had some of it correct but we do not evolve like he speculated. HUMANS WERE NEVER EVER PRIMATES. YOU? YOU WERE NEVER A NEANDERTHAL.

Science can look forever for the missing fossil record. It will not be found. The missing link?

The Iroquois Confederacy! There’s no fossil record of that as Native Americans hand it down orally! It supports the story of the tower of Babel and the Ten Commandants as fact, as do the Hopi sacred tablets. If you have unified it all you can go over the whole Earth and show HOW it is all interrelated, or, Relative and Intrinsic. You can know what is truth and what is not. You are using your whole brain, your whole heart and mind. ANY person can learn how to do this. What do you have to do?

OBEY US LAW IN WORDS AND SPIRIT. BELIEVE IN THE CREATOR. BELIEVE, TRULY BELIEVE IN THE UNIFICATION OF THE WRITTEN LAW OF MAN INSPIRED BY GOD WITH THE UNWRITTEN LAW OF THIS UNIVERSE AS AUTHORED BY GOD. Evidence rising to proof of this beyond any and all doubt is: When I reasoned equal protection and due process all of way? All issues?

I noticed it reflected nature. All of the universe is within it; all of the structure and all of the things we call secret, lol. I found the double helix. Now, how could our founders do that w/o God inspiring them? What is truth about this universe is in our law. If science wants to know? Study contract law and then ask me for the correct reasoning and application as it applies to both men and women EQUIVALENTLY not equally, not EXACTLY the same as men do not give birth and so women do not get drafted as it is double jeopardy and unconstitutional.
 
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Marriage amendment? Not needed as it is already in our law. We ARE a living government and law; we then need new, baby constitutions. We named life, death and natural birth. Children have an inalienable right to both a mother and a father. The opportunity MUST exist even if it is not realized for whatever reason. Does this hurt you if you are gay? No, as all actual rights are human rights. If the Supreme Court finally obeys the law or if the people finally get off of the lazy butts, if you are gay, you may not be having children (you’re gay so by your very nature children are not then your right as they are always a privilege for us all) so you will not be making that blood sacrifice, and you will not be able to join the military if you lie about it, so you will not be making that blood sacrifice, and you will not get a piece of paper saying you are ‘married’, but I know exactly what you can and so may do to thus prove if gay is or is not inborn as in not a choice. So, you’ll be fine if you choose to claim your power instead of unjust privileges that then harm women and children. The law protects no acts of sex not even heterosexual acts as rape is not legal nor is having sex with children. You’d think both were legal though, wouldn’t you? That is because YOU harmed women and harmed yourselves by giving all of your rights away.

Do not ask do not tell? I’m gonna tell: This policy is unconstitutional! It still denies one group only – women –a right, office of Commander, as it still makes some combat positions closed to women with that one being IT. So, a gay man can now become President and Commander, only based upon appearances, but I still cannot? Further, are you telling me, Thomas Jefferson, now known as Susan, that it is lawful and moral, ethical, to have our honor bound military composed of liars??? The last place you want to be lying is within the military, especially within the Office of Commander. See Bill Clinton’s fake made up war with Serbia. Or the Office of President. See Bill Clinton’s perjury thus this very policy. He hates women and abuses them, as he abuses power. See bush V gore which Bill Clinton’s IDEAS caused as did the IDEAS the congress and the people have: WE can break the law and nobody can stop us. Even if we are caught we will still escape the consequences. Hey, Thomas Jefferson could finally achieve actual enlightenment thus ‘come back from the dead’ and the people will ignore him. Nothing bad will ever happen to us so we can lie, steal & cheat all we want. We can, so we will.

US law is the art of becoming as you design your own destiny and so fate. As Susan? I had no idea who I was, as all of my problem selves were ‘blind’ to me. I was not self aware and so not God aware as I AM abused & battered relentlessly. My kids were kidnapped, judges were bought, and so the kidnapping was then legally enforced! Cops believe the purchased piece of paper in spite of the proof. So did the FBI. The federal court was mortified, embarrassed and humiliated, so they did not want to be found out as in “Let’s silence this’ as it will expose what actually goes on and men condone as it accords them all manner of privileges. We cannot admit this happened to these poor women – it’s horrific. So God, the Godhead, finally rescued me from you.

Why is it so horrific? Well, not only were people able to just show up with two kids not their own out of the blue and not one persons asked questions but my kids? For ten years they have been used to threaten and control me. That is the one and only reason they were kidnapped. You go read the so-called decisions and also read all of the records as judges falsified whole events and evidence was tampered with by all. NY State, a master for the state, even lied at a fair hearing to then cover up NY’s secret policy: The state has ordered all social workers and judges to ignore domestic violence and all reports of emotional abuse. NY names emotional abuse as illegal. THE law of the US names emotions like safety and liberty as rights. America?

ALL emotional abuse then becomes physical abuse or sexual abuse. IT ALWAYS BEGINS AS AN IDEA BORN OF AN EMOTION. It is emotional and becomes physical and/or sexual. Thus, if the Court has now made and amended the law in a manner not legal by ruling SAFETY is not a right nor is LIBERTY (your vote, custody of your own person, custody of your children, etc.) and all offices of ogvernment are unchecked so that it is then, well, unchecked and so doen by the people sitting in federal offices, guess what?

It is the domestic violence named in Article 4 section 4. A COUP. Don’t belive you have been sold down the river? God told you, as a ‘code’ or a ‘cipher’ is a part of God’s very cool design:

What is over a ‘4’ on your keyboard? Did the founders even have typewriters? If this is not God waking you up by revealing one of his jokes, on us, what is it then? As it is actually, if you believe you are God and so can do what you want when you want no mater what thus run around screaming in capital letters “I can’t be touched; I AM VICE PRESIDENT” :

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This is how you know, as fact, you screwed yourselves.

So then, WHY are all Christians going to hell?

Because they truly believe in it. If you tell a Jew, Ruth Bader-Ginsburg, that she's going to hell, she'll tell you that is not going to happen, that it is not possible, as no person will choose to go to a place they do not believe exists. If you like hell and want hell, you can then create it and so choose ot go there via your ideas which yu then act upon. If Dick Cheney creates hell on Earth, then I am all for HIM believing in hell but not me believing in hell. His or your belife in Hell harms me in no way, as I'm ethical. The universe actually is just. An unethical Jew? He or she isn't going ot hell but they will not og to their idea of heaven will they? And so, isn't that another form of hell? As long as you believe on God, the outlined in our law and all major religions, it all works out as long as you act it out based upon wanting to become golden, to achieve everlasting life. That is what I set out ot do as Susan in 7th grade as all I ever knew was I HAD to get inside US Suprem Court someway, somehow, as either an attorney for another or my own attorney, as that is the oen and only way I could think of to then become knighted as in America, we have no royalty. I wanted to act for humanity; I wanted to live forever by leaving that kind of evidence as proof of me, that I had lived. A ruling like Lassiter? Brown? Any US Supreme Court ruling that attempts to make the case for life, not death? It is then everlasting life as you then are a living institution and living constitution. You are knighted.
 
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