Kamala: Saving babies from abortion is immoral

[mark francis]

The thing is, sex among humans is unpredictable. When Mr Frog nuts off 300 eggs lad by Mrs Frog, there will always be tadpoles.
But human sex feels good and mostly people have sex because it does feel good. And the odds are against a pregnancy.

The problems humans have are due to poor design on the part of (they say), God. If every sex act resulted in a pregnancy, then perhaps we could foist more blame on the people involved.

Trump is known for refusing to wear a condom, and bullying the women he has lusted after.

The fact is that many women are faced with having children they cannot afford to feed. And perhaps watching them get sick and die because she could not pay for food or medical care.

All Kamala says is that the decision to give birth should be left up to the pregnant woman.
Why? Because SHE OWNS HER BODY.

There is no justification for murdering unborn babies in the womb.

 

[Randomguy]

Nowhere in the Bible does God condone the execution of babies in the womb.

Are you referring to terminating pregnancies? You have a screwed up mind.

 

[Randomguy]

There is no justification for murdering unborn babies in the womb.

But there is a lot for terminating unwanted pregnancies.

 

[pjmret]

Nowhere in the Bible does God condone the execution of babies in the womb.

He allows miscarriages which he could prevent

He executes 23 million unborn babies a year in the womb
Your God is evil

Miscarriage is generally defined as the loss of a pregnancy before viability. An estimated 23 million miscarriages occur every year worldwide, translating to 44 pregnancy losses each minute.

 

[Randomguy]

Nowhere in the Bible does God condone the execution of babies in the womb.

not that it matters much but where in the bible is terminating pregnancies covered?

looking forward to your lying and squirming.

 

[Boris Norris]

not that it matters much but where in the bible is terminating pregnancies covered?

looking forward to your lying and squirming.

In fact, there is a description of how to perform an abortion.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

In fact, there is a description of how to perform an abortion.

Indeed.
In Old Testament law, Numbers 5:11–31 presents a situation in which a husband suspects his wife of adultery, but he can’t prove it. He takes her to a priest who performs a ritual designed to prove her guilt or innocence. The ritual involves a grain offering during which the wife is put under oath.


After swearing her innocence, the wife drinks a cocktail of holy water and tabernacle dust. If she is innocent, nothing will happen. But should she be guilty (the priest tells her), then “may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries” (Num. 5:21–22 NIV). In the Revised English Bible (the updated version of the New English Bible), the phrasing is “may the Lord make an example of you among your people . . . by bringing upon you miscarriage and untimely birth.”

 

[mark francis]

He allows miscarriages which he could prevent

He executes 23 million unborn babies a year in the womb
Your God is evil

Miscarriage is generally defined as the loss of a pregnancy before viability. An estimated 23 million miscarriages occur every year worldwide, translating to 44 pregnancy losses each minute.

My wife had a miscarriage. She did not wickedly hire a medical professional to snuff out the life of the growing baby in her womb.

 

[mark francis]

not that it matters much but where in the bible is terminating pregnancies covered?

looking forward to your lying and squirming.

Thou shalt not kill.

 

[mark francis]

Indeed.
In Old Testament law, Numbers 5:11–31 presents a situation in which a husband suspects his wife of adultery, but he can’t prove it. He takes her to a priest who performs a ritual designed to prove her guilt or innocence. The ritual involves a grain offering during which the wife is put under oath.


After swearing her innocence, the wife drinks a cocktail of holy water and tabernacle dust. If she is innocent, nothing will happen. But should she be guilty (the priest tells her), then “may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries” (Num. 5:21–22 NIV). In the Revised English Bible (the updated version of the New English Bible), the phrasing is “may the Lord make an example of you among your people . . . by bringing upon you miscarriage and untimely birth.”

Setting aside corrupted versions of the Bible, here is what God really said:

Numbers 5

11 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,

13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;

14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:

15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.

16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord:

17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:

18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:

19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:

20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:

21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;

22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:

24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.

25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar:

26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.

27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled;

30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the Lord, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law.

31 Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.
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Nobody in the OT promoted or practiced abortion and this passage curses the adulterous woman. not the baby.

 

[mark francis]

He allows miscarriages which he could prevent

He executes 23 million unborn babies a year in the womb
Your God is evil

Miscarriage is generally defined as the loss of a pregnancy before viability. An estimated 23 million miscarriages occur every year worldwide, translating to 44 pregnancy losses each minute.

The fact of miscarriages does not justify the willful deliberate execution of babies in the womb.

 

[Randomguy]

My wife had a miscarriage. She did not wickedly hire a medical professional to snuff out the life of the growing baby in her womb.

Yes it’s all about your wife and you. Damned be other women.

But more seriously, it’s great that you afford your wife the choice to have control over her body. But honestly I am surprised that you do.

 

[mark francis]

Yes it’s all about your wife and you. Damned be other women.

But more seriously, it’s great that you afford your wife the choice to have control over her body. But honestly I am surprised that you do.

You make your own choices. According to leftists there can be only one option between two obvious choices so its either 'damn the mothers' or 'damn their babies.'

 

[Randomguy]

You make your own choices. According to leftists there can be only one option between two obvious choices so its either 'damn the mothers' or 'damn their babies.'

You make no sense. Many women happily carry their pregnancies to term. But I suspect even that choice irritates you. You want no control given to women.

 

[mark francis]

You make no sense. Many women happily carry their pregnancies to term. But I suspect even that choice irritates you. You want no control given to women.

My only concern is that innocent babies are being murdered because misguided leftists think abortion is something that should be fought to the death to defend.