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See? I present examples of human systems where dominance and sexuality and social coercion forming people's sexual "preference" is forced to the surface [instead of simmering just below it "on the outside"] and still these are not qualifiers as to human psychology.

Sexual influence in prisons is the sharp tip of the iceberg that sits above the much larger, denser and unnoticed berg just under the surface in the ocean of free people..

You normalize deviant sexuality and I guarantee you there will be a statistical rise in homosexuals within that given population.

Again, some find this just fine and some don't..those are matters of wavering opinion. But the phenomenon of increase in population via normalizing is fixed and static. You can bank that it will happen. All that is really open for discussion is wheter or not people want it to.
 
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See? I present examples of human systems where dominance and sexuality and social coercion forming people's sexual "preference" is forced to the surface [instead of simmering just below it "on the outside"] and still these are not qualifiers as to human psychology.

Sexual influence in prisons is the sharp tip of the iceberg that sits above the much larger, denser and unnoticed berg just under the surface in the ocean of free people..

You normalize deviant sexuality and I guarantee you there will be a statistical rise in homosexuals within that given population.

Again, some find this just fine and some don't..those are matters of wavering opinion. But the phenomenon of increase in population via normalizing is fixed and static. You can bank that it will happen. All that is really open for discussion is wheter or not people want it to.

I love your hysterical prognostications, Siho, despite the fact that you cannot give single example in the real world of a place where this horror of your has happened despite the fact that gay marriage is legal in a whole bunch of places. Has Massachusetts devolved into gay Hell? Vermont? Canada? Spain? Hello?

Your bolded sentence above was canny though, "...there will be a statistical rise in homosexuals within that given population." If you can show that one single person came out of the closet, then you can claim to be correct. Again, your lack of scientific education is painfully obvious. In the real world your hysterical fears have never been proven to be valid. It's too bad that your heart was broken but bashing others for the rest of your life won't heal it.
 
1 + 1= 2 is not a "hysterical proposition"

You're trying to say that 1 + 1= 5

BTW, I continually provide resources and links for my position meanwhile your posts that assert with even more vehemence to the opposite are conspicuously absent of any outside support for your stance.

Just thought I'd point out that elephant in this living room..
 
See? I present examples of human systems where dominance and sexuality and social coercion forming people's sexual "preference" is forced to the surface [instead of simmering just below it "on the outside"] and still these are not qualifiers as to human psychology.

Sexual influence in prisons is the sharp tip of the iceberg that sits above the much larger, denser and unnoticed berg just under the surface in the ocean of free people..

Let's think about this?

You smear gay people as terrible and deviant and qualify this "non-fact" by giving the example that some small fraction of this group have made lewd and insulting remarks.

Then I try an slap you back to reality by pointing out that it's very common for today's HETEROSEXUAL male youth to call women "PIGEON HEADS" because they bob their heads like a pigeon when giving oral sex... totally embarrassing you & showing how ignorant everything you just said really was.

And then you ramble about TIP OF THE ICEBERG!!!!!!:D You wouldn't know the tip of the iceberg if it sat in your lap and called ya momma!:D

You clearly need anger management.

I mean seriously...
 
1 + 1= 2 is not a "hysterical proposition"

You're trying to say that 1 + 1= 5

BTW, I continually provide resources and links for my position meanwhile your posts that assert with even more vehemence to the opposite are conspicuously absent of any outside support for your stance.

Just thought I'd point out that elephant in this living room..

Well, lets think about those resources and links that you keep mentioning:...Hmmm: a list of authors under the genre of physiology and other personality traits/studies of the social disorders and various other abnormalities of the human race!!! And you feel that those 'LISTS' provide you with the reasoning/firm foundation for being a BIGOT..."I have the list so I can be a bigot about Gays and how they are made"!!! Why not just post a 'LIST' of the founding fathers of the KKK or your card carrying member to the Rev. Phelps of Kansas Congregation, it would make more logical sense for your concrete reasoning and thought processes!

Just because 'YOU' draw the connected dots to and from your 'LIST' of sources does not a qualifying acknowledgement make...but you've managed to cling to that 'LIST' like it was handed special delivery from GOD to you for spreading the wealth of your minute enlightenment!!! LMAO

You take to much credit for your limited education on all grounds: artificial insemination, your limited work with animals, your sexual growth and development, your maturity and growth as an open minded well balance thinking adult and now you seem to have crossed the line of common sense into the screaming insanity of prison life and how the deviant gay mindset will become the lifestyle choice of each and every prisoner...well now I'm ROTFLMAO
 
1 + 1= 2 is not a "hysterical proposition"

You're trying to say that 1 + 1= 5

BTW, I continually provide resources and links for my position meanwhile your posts that assert with even more vehemence to the opposite are conspicuously absent of any outside support for your stance.

Just thought I'd point out that elephant in this living room..

You have yet to post even ONE single journal article which states that your one to one behavioral approach is correct--not one. Your rat studies don't say that, Siho.

1 + 1 = 2, but you are not saying that, you are making a hysterical claim that cannot be substantiated in history or science. I could post a whole bunch of articles about human behavioral research, but you wouldn't read them. You appear to uneducable. Posting a hundred links that don't support your position is kind of like mental masturbation.
 
No references, no links to back up your stance yet. I'll wait...

THE FEMALE BRAIN by Dr. Louanne Brizendine, in which she cites more than 1000 peer reviewed journal articles in her bibliography. Very readable book detailing Dr. Brizendine's lifetime of brain research and drawing on the work of hundreds of other researchers in diverse fields.

Available on Amazon for about $6.
 
So, Chicken Little (Siho), it looks as if the world has ended, 6 States have legalized gay marriage--just like Canada, Spain, Belgium, etc. No place has been taken over by gays, heterosexual people can still have heterosex and no roving gangs of gay are raping them. Have your children been taken to the re-education camps yet? Ours haven't been--nor have their wives.

The Chicken Littles of the world argued that giving women the right to own property would destroy the institution of marriage, but it didn't happen. The schism in the Catholic Church that produced the Protestants was supposed to destroy civilization and bring down the wrath of God, but it didn't happen. Women getting the vote, legalizing inter-faith marriages, inter-racial marriages, civil rights for black people, even the 40 hour work week, all these things were supposed to destroy civilization, but they didn't. Your fears are baseless, get some counseling, read THE FEMALE BRAIN, listen to your sister and things will be alright.
 
So, Chicken Little (Siho), it looks as if the world has ended, 6 States have legalized gay marriage--just like Canada, Spain, Belgium, etc. No place has been taken over by gays, heterosexual people can still have heterosex and no roving gangs of gay are raping them. Have your children been taken to the re-education camps yet? Ours haven't been--nor have their wives.

The Chicken Littles of the world argued that giving women the right to own property would destroy the institution of marriage, but it didn't happen. The schism in the Catholic Church that produced the Protestants was supposed to destroy civilization and bring down the wrath of God, but it didn't happen. Women getting the vote, legalizing inter-faith marriages, inter-racial marriages, civil rights for black people, even the 40 hour work week, all these things were supposed to destroy civilization, but they didn't. Your fears are baseless, get some counseling, read THE FEMALE BRAIN, listen to your sister and things will be alright.

Sihouette...is finally located...found sadly cowering in the corner mumbling..."DOOMED...we are DOOMED to hell and DAMANTION" as she being strapped into that little 'white jacket' and taken away to a special home for the fear mongering gay bashing paranoid!!! For mental health you think...nay, just for protection...this place is all about protection and drugs, blissful, sleep induced DRUGS, where life will be about finger painting/good food/adult diapers...LMAO.

We can't argue the 'make believe' resources in her head, we can't undue the NON-PROOF that she fanatically clings too, we can't change a mindset that lives in it's own made up universe:rolleyes: This is just the saddest thing...how one person can dwell in the whelm of confusion/deliberate denial/fear of another humans lifestyle that has no direct impact on her...

But as this is her topic; generated under the 'disguise of Prop.#8'...and look how far off of topic she has led us...my, my, my!!!
 
THE FEMALE BRAIN by Dr. Louanne Brizendine, in which she cites more than 1000 peer reviewed journal articles in her bibliography. Very readable book detailing Dr. Brizendine's lifetime of brain research and drawing on the work of hundreds of other researchers in diverse fields.

Available on Amazon for about $6.

You do see that your past loss of a lover that you rationalize as "going gay" is driving you along this witch hunt right? I mean now you're reading entire books on it so you don't feel less a woman??????:confused:

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT!!! It's no ones fault. He was ALWAYS GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
OK, now you are in ad hominem territory. Purposefully serial-misquoting and continual badgering.

Meanwhile, here's another side issue to consider. I almost started a new thread about it but then we'd have another 89 pages of Mare and toppy going hysterical, lying, ganging up and calling names.

Another ram-rodder of the PC queer [their own label for themselves] agenda automatically predicted how Congress is going to handle the DC deviant-sexual marriage issue. He emphatically stated they would uphold deviants' rights to marry. I responded thusly:

"Will Congress Block DC Council’s Same Sex Marriage Recognition?"

You already know how Congress will address this highly controversial issue that may cause a deep rift in this country [deeper than many are willing to admit] in these troubled times?

Think about it. If democrats support gay marriage, then guess what that will automatically do? Answer to rhetorical question: thin the ranks significantly.

Here's why. I'm outspoken about how I feel about gay marraige, but many who privately feel very strongly the same way I do are currently burying those feelings for fear of upsetting their PC friends and others who are ram-rodding this legislation [evidenced by your pre-predicting the outcome of Congress as "NO!"]. But when push comes to shove, these strong feelings may surface in the form of switching party affiliations...particularly if the GOP is clever enough to sieze on this new harvest of middle-grounders who will be newly estranged from "the new party of the queer agenda". I can see the GOP softening its religious manipulations and instead cater their new party logo to suit this current generation of pragmatists. If they do this, they just might pick up the 2010 and 2012 elections anew.

Mark my words, there will be an exodus and I may be among them.

Such a pity. Democrats always biff it on strategy and lose. The same mistake the GOP made in embracing the nutter far right to the exclusion of the majority of their ranks will be the same one the dems make with miscalculating how many people are actually opposed to gay marriage in their closer-to-middle ranks.

We'll see how this plays out.

Just because you see three vocal pro-deviant sex marriage people hammering away mercilessly at my position on this thread, don't let that fool you into thinking that all people who casually state they are "for gay marriage" in certain company [and then quickly change the subject] are all "pro-gay" in the voting booth.

The gays and the christian zealots do not DO NOT want this comparison to be made, so I'll go ahead and make it...lol... Extreme agendas on either side of the mindless-zealot coin are going to dissolve the ranks of their respective political party, and not unite them.

These are times when every vote counts. Mistaking the real feelings of squirmy voters who don't want to be overtly persecuted by people such as Mare, toppy and especially ASPCA will say one thing and vote another just to keep their heads out of the crossfire but get their agenda across anyway.

Actually, if you think about Mare, toppy and ASPCA, they form the three prongs of the zealot-opposition triad. Mare is the intellectual, the calm, learned, verbose "reasonable" representative. He has bought his own "faith" so deeply that he removed his penis for it. It's like his form of monkesque flaggelation. Top Gun is the mid-range attack dog who is like the preacher at the pulpit, dispensing the word of the fold with an appeal to the common man. ASPCA is like the mindless appendage zealot, the abortion clinic bomber, the ultimate militant who would destroy you in a heartbeat if she could in order to promote the agenda of the fold.

Zealots on either end suck.
 
Mare is the intellectual, the calm, learned, verbose "reasonable" representative. He has bought his own "faith" so deeply that he removed his penis for it. It's like his form of monkesque flaggelation. Zealots on either end suck.

Poor ol' Chicken Little, still crying about the sky falling. Bleating about ad hominem attacks while making them herself. I can always tell when someone runs out of real arguments: they start calling me "he" or "him", Chick Lit Siho has been doing this now for about 47 pages.

With the idea that a lie told often enough will soon gain the substance of truth, our local Chicken Little keeps saying that I had my penis cut off--despite the fact that I did not. Her insistence is indicative of a near total lack of education except for molesting animals (a subject in which she apparently excels). "Cutting off the penis" is just a buzz phrase that hits men emotionally. Perhaps it hits women with penis envy just as hard, what do you say, Siho?

As more and more States and countries legalize gay marriage and the sky does not fall down I think the Democrats will be well positioned to move forward unhampered by the fundie Christians that weigh down the Republicans.
 
Sihouette Said: OK, now you are in ad hominem territory. Purposefully serial-misquoting and continual badgering.

Well, well, well, you at least are acknowledging that you started this topic with just that hidden 'gray matter area' {true meaning} of your attack on anyone and every one that dared to challenge you ascertains {unfounded/unsubstantiated/make believe/trumped up wacko-do brain} HOW DARE WE QUESTION YOUR PROOF...even when there wasn't any!!! LMAO


These are times when every vote counts. Mistaking the real feelings of squirmy voters who don't want to be overtly persecuted by people such as Mare, toppy and especially ASPCA will say one thing and vote another just to keep their heads out of the crossfire but get their agenda across anyway.

Actually, if you think about Mare, toppy and ASPCA, they form the three prongs of the zealot-opposition triad. Mare is the intellectual, the calm, learned, verbose "reasonable" representative. He has bought his own "faith" so deeply that he removed his penis for it. It's like his form of monkesque flaggelation. Top Gun is the mid-range attack dog who is like the preacher at the pulpit, dispensing the word of the fold with an appeal to the common man. ASPCA is like the mindless appendage zealot, the abortion clinic bomber, the ultimate militant who would destroy you in a heartbeat if she could in order to promote the agenda of the fold.

ROTFLMAO...Oh, ya that sure hit the mark...wounded me to the very core of my "Right To Life/Buddhist Soul"...watch out our I'll be sending mental telepathy brain waves your direction and you won't be able to hide from that persuasive projection to finally see the 'LIGHT' that Gays don't want your arse and that is just the 'way it is'!!!


Zealots on either end suck.

And for the 'grand finale' a well worded self imposed thought about your true inner feelings...yes indeed you SUCK!

SPELL CHECK When you want to baffle the masses with them-there large words...it really helps to learn to spell them-there large words correctly!
 
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OK, now you are in ad hominem territory. Purposefully serial-misquoting and continual badgering.

Meanwhile, here's another side issue to consider. I almost started a new thread about it but then we'd have another 89 pages of Mare and toppy going hysterical, lying, ganging up and calling names.

Another ram-rodder of the PC queer [their own label for themselves] agenda automatically predicted how Congress is going to handle the DC deviant-sexual marriage issue. He emphatically stated they would uphold deviants' rights to marry. I responded thusly:



Just because you see three vocal pro-deviant sex marriage people hammering away mercilessly at my position on this thread, don't let that fool you into thinking that all people who casually state they are "for gay marriage" in certain company [and then quickly change the subject] are all "pro-gay" in the voting booth.

The gays and the christian zealots do not DO NOT want this comparison to be made, so I'll go ahead and make it...lol... Extreme agendas on either side of the mindless-zealot coin are going to dissolve the ranks of their respective political party, and not unite them.

These are times when every vote counts. Mistaking the real feelings of squirmy voters who don't want to be overtly persecuted by people such as Mare, toppy and especially ASPCA will say one thing and vote another just to keep their heads out of the crossfire but get their agenda across anyway.

Actually, if you think about Mare, toppy and ASPCA, they form the three prongs of the zealot-opposition triad. Mare is the intellectual, the calm, learned, verbose "reasonable" representative. He has bought his own "faith" so deeply that he removed his penis for it. It's like his form of monkesque flaggelation. Top Gun is the mid-range attack dog who is like the preacher at the pulpit, dispensing the word of the fold with an appeal to the common man. ASPCA is like the mindless appendage zealot, the abortion clinic bomber, the ultimate militant who would destroy you in a heartbeat if she could in order to promote the agenda of the fold.

Zealots on either end suck.

I know not of what you speak.

Was it not you who started the attacks & insults? Did you expect everyone to just lay down? People naturally become courser as the smearing went on & on.

Are you now rationalizing that calling people pro-deviant is a term of endearment? This has been your tone throughout because anyone who dares challenge you with facts about HUMAN BEHAVIOR and not just talk animal talk with you is somewhere between a pedophile and polygamist.

And it was you who opened the door of insight into your personal hurt in life being in love with a gay man... we're just talking about it.:confused:

The fact you appear pretty much alone on this topic of course does not mean there aren't others that probably agree with you... I'm sure there are people who are even more rabid.

But I am encouraged that open mindedness on this subject, a subject where no one is hurt by two adults being married, appears to prevail in here at least.

Oh... and in MAINE now... just recently Iowa & now Maine... and New Hampshire is on deck now and the District of Columbia has said it will recognize gay marriages from other states. Cleveland, Ohio and several other cities just passed a civil rights law granting gay couples in Civil Unions all the legal visitation and property rights of straight couples.

So it's either there is just this big trend where everyone suddenly loves deviantcy... or reasonable rational people see there's absolutely no harm and aren't buying into the gay bashing from the Right.

I'm quite certain that it's the latter.
 
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