Abortion

[cdbussey]

So. Does one human being's "right" to not be inconvenienced really outweigh another human being's actual right to live?

no it does not

 

[cdbussey]

You credit people with being special and then disingenuously claim that I am calling for the deaths of millions when I simply point out that we have used are "specialness" for greed and stupidity. Kind of a leap, isn't it?

You didn't deny that you are calling for mass murder. Scary.

 

[cdbussey]

Oh dear....you knew I would have to answer this ....


Despite my inability to refute the logic of our last conversation - I still believe in a seperation of "person" and "human being". I do not think abortion should ever be something undertaken lightly and I do not think most women do so. However until the fetus has brainwaves, the mother's rights overide any presumed rights it might have. It's her body and no other person has any right to force an unwanted choice on her - whether it's the government of China forcing abortions on mothers to be or a group of strangers preventing abortion in the US.

Does somebody have a right to choose a hangover if they drink excessively one night
?

I would choose no if it was a choice.

Would you forgive me and honor my choice to not have a hangover if I chose to drink excessively one night Coyote? I doubt it.

This isn't the 1800's, would you claim to be raising a child that doesn't know sex can/will produce a child? You are not helping your kids in any way by living in denial they know exactly what they are doing.

You are not, IMO, giving your daughter good advice by telling her to commit her first murder of her own child. JMHO

 

[cdbussey]

Oh, what is your evidence of when brainwaves begin?

 

[Gipper]

You credit people with being special and then disingenuously claim that I am calling for the deaths of millions when I simply point out that we have used are "specialness" for greed and stupidity. Kind of a leap, isn't it?

Can we assume Mare that you admire Margaret Sanger as does Hillary Clinton? I personally can't find one thing to admire about Sanger. She has much in common with Hitler, Stalin, and Mengele.

Well, Congressman, let me say with respect to your comments about Margaret Sanger, you know, I admire Thomas Jefferson. I admire his words and his leadership and I deplore his unrepentant slaveholding. I admire Margaret Sanger being a pioneer in trying to empower women to have some control over their bodies and I deplore statements that you have referenced. That is the way we often are when we look at flawed human beings. There are things that we admire and things we deplore.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/04/sec_clinton_nonsensically_comp_1.asp

 

[OldTrapper]

This is the common comment that truely amazes me as being so disengeuous to the point of arrogance:

"I admire Margaret Sanger being a pioneer in trying to empower women to have some control over their bodies "

When did women not have control over their bodies? Save for the cases of rape (incest, sex slave, domestic abuse, are all forms of rape) does not the woman choose to have sex? Is someone somehow forcing her to have sex? Does she not have the willpower to refrain from sex, or is she an abject slave to "raging hormones"?

Women want to claim for their own that they are stronger, wiser, yada, yada, then men, yet when it comes to this one topic all of a sudden they are weak, and just slightly better then animals.

In regard to the other persons comment about man having created war, the nuclear bomb, etc., you have really never looked at the animal kingdom.

 

[Gipper]

This is the common comment that truely amazes me as being so disengeuous to the point of arrogance:

"I admire Margaret Sanger being a pioneer in trying to empower women to have some control over their bodies "

When did women not have control over their bodies? Save for the cases of rape (incest, sex slave, domestic abuse, are all forms of rape) does not the woman choose to have sex? Is someone somehow forcing her to have sex? Does she not have the willpower to refrain from sex, or is she an abject slave to "raging hormones"?

Women want to claim for their own that they are stronger, wiser, yada, yada, then men, yet when it comes to this one topic all of a sudden they are weak, and just slightly better then animals.

In regard to the other persons comment about man having created war, the nuclear bomb, etc., you have really never looked at the animal kingdom.

Well said Trapper.

Abortion is a modern day holocaust. Historians will write decades from now how appalling and short sighted we were to allow the wanton murder of the unborn.

Liberals condemn the Jewish holocaust while ignoring the modern day holocaust or even worse, promoting it. And, it has cost exponential more deaths that the Jewish one. They can't see that the root of abortion is racism and eugenics.

Abortion is the epitome of evil!!!

Please God forgive us! Please God protect the unborn and change the minds of the baby murderers!

 

[citizenzen]

Abortion is the epitome of evil!!!

Please God forgive us! Please God protect the unborn and change the minds of the baby murderers!

Maybe you could circulate a petition.

That's always a good way to combat pure evil.

 

[Gipper]

Maybe you could circulate a petition.

That's always a good way to combat pure evil.

I will.

Can I count on you signing the petition?

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

Abortion is the epitome of evil!!!

Please God forgive us! Please God protect the unborn and change the minds of the baby murderers!

it reminds me of this verse:

Isa 1:5 ¶ Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.​

 

[citizenzen]

I will.

Can I count on you signing the petition?

Oh, no. I support a woman's right to choose.

 

[Gipper]

Oh, no. I support a woman's right to choose.

Let me restate your post.

You mean to say - you support a mother's right to murder her child for convenience seek.

Very evil indeed.

 

[rationalist]

Hey Gipper you are happy for the US to burn to death born children.

What is so special about the unborn?

 

[citizenzen]

You mean to say - you support a mother's right to murder her child for convenience seek.

Very evil indeed.

If that's how you wish to see it, I don't care. Yup, pure evil, that's me.

Between you and GenSen, I must be the incarnation of Satan himself.

Cooool.

 

[rationalist]

They are confused.

They love a bit of war that kills thousands of born children but obviously they are pro life.

Makes perfect sense.

I'm glad I'm evil.