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Quran burning

Discussion in 'World News' started by zakiyeh, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. zakiyeh Member

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    Thank you.
    I've not come here to ask for warm feelings for Iran. I just wanted to know what people outside my country think about such issues.
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    The world has changed much since the time of the prophets. We prefer to stick to our routine life rather than care for God and good and bad and such meanings. But I think the world is coming to a point which some important meanings which were to be forgotten need to be unveiled again. We will never come to a consensus unless our believes about God and the intention of Man's creation and his mission on earth and the life after death and heaven and hell, etc become the same. For example if I believe there is a life after death which never ends and my deeds decide my place there, I can't stand injustice in favor of peace! If there is to be injustice and evil, I would rather die in favor of justice and good rather than live in a provisional peace.

    Peace can't always be gained peacefully; although it evidently is better if it could.
    let's be clear. We're not here on earth for fun. In this world there is good and there is evil and they aren't to be conciliating or shaking hands together, and we should open our eyes to see which side were playing a role at. At least this is what I believe.
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    And at last the word savagery you use is some other deep topic which I just can't talk about it now! Some of it is about technology, modernity and it's definitions on development, etc ...

    Now Iran should try to stand on it's own feet and show the face of true Islam to the world and the misguided Muslims. That true Islam, if known and obeyed will save the world itself.
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    Once again you are wrong on every issue..what I stated was fact.. I do not have time for this..there is no talking to you..By the way what are you so angry about?
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    it runs in the (political) family.
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    What im so angry about is the courts giving terrorist a free pass like life in prison. If you attempted a dangerous terrorist act you should go right into death row until the day youre executed.
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    according to Islam, all Muslims are brothers


    Where did you get the "after". We need to study history. The fight is over land not in answer to such blows up. Those blows up, weather I approve or not (which I don't) are themselves an answer to attacks and taking away their homes... It seems that you believe it's right to fight back for the family being blown up and kill many mothers and children again? So why not accept it from the other side. There would never be a stop to the fights going on then, would there? Another fact is that the number of Palestinians killed is incomparable to the Jews killed. I've been through this issue in my previous posts. I just not have the time to discuss it over again now.


    Yes of course he just hates them! Although what he said was the repeat of what Imam Khomeini had said before.
    Don't get it wrong. It's not the Jews he talked about. We have Jews who live in our country in peace. It is Israel's government as an illegal state.The facts about the illegality of Israel which I have mentioned some in other threads are available if you wish to know... There should be no state ruled by these murderer Zionists called Israel...that is all we say!
    Now of course If Palestinians want their homes back, those Jews who are actually living in their homes should cooperate or find somewhere else to live ... I don't know how or where. It was a mistake to bring them and settle them in others homes, sending them to camps...
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    I don't get what your point is here? The word "Muhammad" has been mentioned four times but many verses are a direct talk of Allah to him.
    Of course he is important to Muslims.... but I still don't understand why and whom you asked the question. If you think I can answer you please ask it so I get your point. thanks.
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    Reading history is a good idea. I would start with WWI. Too bad the Ottomans aligned with Germany. Maybe they wouldn't have been beaten by the Brits and lost the land.
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    Some people say burning the Koran is not important. It is only a book. Now some Libyan rebels ( yes the ones we supported) are attacking grave stones in a Commonwealth war Cemetery in Benghazi Libya. This is mainly for British and Australian servicemen who died during WW2. The reaction in Australia is strong. The men who did this and called vermin, and The scum of humanity. Yet this attack was only stones, some with a cross or star of David on them. Yet the unanimous reaction is to stop giving any aid to Libya and bring the bodies , home where they will be safe.
    We should condemn any attack of what others regard as sacred. However let us not be too sensitive to the actions of a few.
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    Headstones denote the resting places of actual people. The other is a book which these days represents the final resting place of some tree.
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    no I am correct...( what you think thats a good enough rebutal)
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    I was showing how asking the question about how many times Jerusalem was mentioned in the Koran as being equal to how important it is. Personally I thought it was 5 times ( and I was going to say, he is talked about far more but not by name..), but I am sure you know that one better then I. Using the simplistic idea of going by how many times something is mentioned as someone before on here tried to do ( showing that they can read a right wing talking point but not actually know what they are talking about) of course if that where true, Jesus would be far more important the Mohammad and Mosses even more important.
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    What you think???
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    Forum rules forbid me from saying.....
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    the world may end..Dogtown just "liked" one of my comments
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    don't get all cocky now : )
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    Thank you, you were quite right...
    According to Quran, Muhammad was transported from the Sacred Mosque in Mecca to al-Aqsa during a Night Journey. Muhammad led prayers towards this site until the seventeenth month after the emigration, when God directed him to turn towards the Ka'aba...So it's importance goes right back to Islam's birth...
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    Do you think murdering people who had nothing to do with the quran burnings is what Mohammed would have done?
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    if this is any indication he was good with murder and mayhem. So long as he was pitching and not catching of course.
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    It will be interesting to read his reponse to that question.
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    Muslims and the left are similar in that they are both indoctrinated and direct questions can be hard for them to handle. They're good at spreading propaganda, but have a very difficult time thinking because that is discouraged.

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