Coyote
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If a Christian country were invaded by a more powerful country - say Islamic - and under foreign occupation....I bet you would.
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If a Christian country were invaded by a more powerful country - say Islamic - and under foreign occupation....I bet you would.
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Coyote
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And I DO NOT see jihad expounded in the FIVE PILLARS - only in the goat-herder variety of islam. So, which is paramount, the five pillars or hadiths, hmmm?
You have no idea what fact means.
A handful of goat-herders is NOT islam.
And why do you suppose would I be inclined to listen to goat-herder logic. As plainly as can be demonstrated, it is you and your cohort that are thoroughly enamoured with goat-herders.
I've been out of school too long. I'm an old fart
I had a girlfriend who was a philo major. Maybe that helped.
LOLOL!!! Well, its interesting what my google search of caodaist says. And revealing where you have to go to get support for your arguements regarding Islam.
"God, the creator of the universe, whose full title is Cao Đài Tiên Ông Đại Bồ Tát Ma-ha-tát (Chữ Nôm: 高臺天皇大菩薩摩訶薩, translation: Cao Dai "
What these vietmaneze and the "Great Bodhisattva Mahasattva" expression of Buddha think about Islam isnt really relevant. Why the hell would I want to buy their book? Since we are talking about Islamic fundamentalist who are waging a worldwide jihad, their interpretation of the doctrine would seem to be more relevant. And real haddiths instead of pretend ones. Thats why I present the writings of Muslims and the text from the doctrine they use. But I do support the efforts of these vietnameze to bring together diverse religions.
Coyote
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That's a very interesting list.
First: because this site has a very clear bias, and it's presentation of attacks is a bit deceptive. It doesn't state who is behind the attacks.
There are however some pretty clear inferences that can be drawn.
Everyone of those attacks occurs in a predominately third world country with limited to no real democratic institutions and a history (or occuring currently) several or all of the following: colonialism, foreign occupations, civil unrest/civil war, artificial borders forcing disparate peoples into one country, supression of minorities and rights, corruption, poverty, and a big gulf between the wealthy and the poor. Almost all of those countries are predominately Muslim as well so there is no way (in this list) to determine with the terrorists are Islamists, nationalists of one variety or another, local warlords vying for regional control through terror or any of a group of activists seeking to make a political statement through terror or the use of religion.
Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iraq are all in a state of war - it is impossible to state whether something is the product of "terrorists" or of war and weak or nonexistant government. What's left? It's impossible to verify the accuracy - you have countries that are undergoing regional conflicts, you have what appears to be the average criminal shooting someone (not to different from someone who bombs an abortion clinic) and aside from the perpetrator being Islamic (no surprise in a country with predominately Islamic population) there is no information. Virtually no attacks occurred in prosperous third world countries and countries with strong democratic institutions.
What is clear however, is that this site appears to be where your "40 years" of studying and "living" Islam seems to spring from.
Of course the knee-jerk reaction is to blame Islam.
Coyote
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bewitched
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we wouldn't be there without the permission of Saudi. that is Holy Islamic land and we wouldn't allowed to be set foot in that area unless we were invited. and it had to be agreed upon by the region.
further, an invasion suggests we plan on staying and we don't. we aren't there to possess anything, we are just doing a job for the expansion of the Caliphate.
Medina and Mecca will be the capital of the World.
bewitched
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can you name the 57 Islamic OIC countries?
and those being overthrown by Islamic resistance groups?
how about taking a look at
www.mapsofwar.com
it will show you about expansion of Islam and the tiny scab called Israel.
further, the implications for the future is what you are missing.
bewitched
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Coyote and numinus, would you be open to learning something new other than what you think you believe? or are you stuck solidly on your beliefs and observations?
bewitched
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this is a common misconception.
and while you are coming up with alot of cut and pastes you are missing the concepts entirely.
here's one back at you. this explains the development of "hate" and "evil"... now if you can apply it (using epistemology) it might be worth more than a cut and paste.
"Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one's own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat. The ego creates the illusion of an enemy, a cause that can be "blamed" for one's own inferiority/failure. Thus, one was thwarted not by a failure in oneself, but rather by an external "evil". This issuing of "blame" leads one to desire revenge, or at least believe in the possibility of revenge; this lust for revenge may take many forms, as in the Christian conception of the Last Judgment, or the socialist conception of revolution. In each case, a sense of powerlessness creates the illusion of an enemy; one suddenly conceives oneself to be oppressed rather than merely weak, a phenomenon that spawns externally-directed bitterness (lust for a perceived "revenge").
Ressentiment lies at the heart of much of Nietzschean thought, particularly in regard to Judaism and Christianity. Nietzsche believed that these religions stemmed from a desire to invert the natural order of the world, to establish the prevalence of weakness over strength. Judea's position of weakness in the Roman Empire was itself the origin of ressentiment, of the moral system that elevated pity (the weak) over vitality (the strong). The immense strength of the Roman Empire could not be overwhelmed in a physical sense; Judea's inferiority manifested as hatred for Roman rule. Judaism redefined the strength of the Roman Empire as evil, weak, or depraved, envisioning a wrathful God who would effect a revenge. "Jewish" weakness caused hatred for Roman overlordship, which was thus damned as evil, merely because it dared to be strong."
Totally and completely blinded by ideology, coyote because he loves to hate America, and the Islamic fundamentalist hate America, numinus?? if i had to guess because he is a muslim.
AlicornsPrayer
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Ohhhh...You just don't learn, do you...
Simply cause they don't agree with you, you're going to play the fear game and misrepresent people...
1. Coyote is a GIRL...Not a he...So stop trying to pretend otherwise. GROW UP!
2. It's been explained to you by her, Nimus, and myself that calling Coyote 'Anti-American' or saying that Coyote 'loves to hate America' is poor taste on your part, because you can't handle when someone disagrees with you...
GROW UP!
3. And now, since you don't like what Nimus said...You're going to retaliate with the 'they must be Muslim' argument as well?
GROW UP!
You're starting to sound alot like the persons of who helped me find my way to this board...Sure, they were anti-Semantic...But they did the same thing you are doing here...They called people 'Jews' for disagreeing with them, you're doing the exact same thing just changing the words.
It's childish, immature, and I'd think you were above such acts...If you can't handle disagreeing with them then just agree to disagree...But resorting to calling people 'anti-American', 'love to hate America', and 'Muslim' cause you can't retort to their opposing views?
GROW UP!
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I could have sworn coyote was one of a gang of homosexual men who teamed up against me in one of the gay topic threads. I could be mistaken.
And not because she disagrees, but because of how eager she is to embrace as fact anything that puts America in a bad light. Your bogus "hate crime" statistics are a good case in point. Embraced them as fact and criticized me for pointing out they were BS. She didnt have any idea if they were true or not, but because they supported your portrayal of America, rife with hatred, in your defense of Islam as the religion of peace love and tolerance, she accepted them as facts. She REEEAAAALLY wanted it to be true.
