Ive already posted the FBI statistics that show there were 3 deaths in all of 2006. Youve showed us the silly ideas bouncing around in your head, nothing more. Im sure your silly ideas will convince most of the clowns on this group and the FBI statistics will be written off as zionist propaganda or some shiit.
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Ive already posted the FBI statistics that show there were 3 deaths in all of 2006. Youve showed us the silly ideas bouncing around in your head, nothing more. Im sure your silly ideas will convince most of the clowns on this group and the FBI statistics will be written off as zionist propaganda or some shiit.
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And yet, asking if someone is a muslim is viewed as an insult.
AlicornsPrayer
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Sorry about the mess...I'm having to type this by hand since my copier isn't wanting to scan it so I can post it...Oh, and the numbers next to the cities? Number of agencies reporting numbers from that city. And not all the numbers are in yet for all of 2007
State City Violent Murder Forcible Aggravated
crime rape assault
ALABAMA BIRMINGHAM 2006 1,586 55 122 705
2007 1,577 34 124 682
HUNTSVILLE 2006 689 3 58 366
2007 681 7 45 339
MOBILE 3 2006 581 15 26 203
2007 585 20 40 181
MONTGOMERY2006 559 14 40 196
2007 591 21 22 215
ARIZONA CHANDLER 2006 464 3 24 325
2007 405 4 23 261
GLENDALE 2006 728 11 43 473
2007 742 6 34 462
MESA 2006 1,059 20 102 699
2007 1,101 6 75 742
PHOENIX 2006 5,425 119 279 2,931
2007 5,680 111 247 2,919
TEMPE 2006 540 3 27 320
2007 451 8 36 249
TUCSON 4 2006 2,359 24 166 1,328
2007 2,000 21 128 1,145
ARKANSAS LITTLE ROCK 2006 1,586 34 83 1,105
2007 1,598 19 55 959
There's the "A's", except for Alaska...Alaska didn't provide any stats it seems...
I'll happily do the C's next...I just need to give my fingers a rest first...LOL!
Dang...I have it all neat in the typing portion, but when it posts, it bunches up....GRRRR!
AlicornsPrayer
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LOL! I just posted from the NIBRS/FBI Hate Crime pamphlet I have...Although I'm not doubting your link...Seems yours is only a PARTIAL information source. Interesting eh?
Found this though on your link which explains why that information isn't on that particular table/site location...
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/methodology.html
Seems I have the NIBRS totals.
AlicornsPrayer
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LOL! Considering I've only done the A's so far...Isn't your 'celebration' a bit premature?
You know what they say about putting the cart before the horse, counting your chickens before they hatch, etc., etc.
AlicornsPrayer
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No, I'm listing hate motivated crimes...State by state, for your viewing pleasure. And to be nice to you...I left out the hate-motivated vandalism and arson...But if you'd like me too add that as well...
Don't get mad at me...Get mad at the states letting this go on.
I'm not posting it to minimize Muslim extremists...I'm simpy showing you that hate crimes do indeed exsist in our country, that those crimes cost lives and damages...You said no such thing happened...I'm showing that it does.
Doesn't minimize any other terrorist acts at all...Just shows exactly what I said the situation was...That we have our own home-grown terrorists right here (that you denied exsisted as well as no such crimes). Which are a more immediate and daily threat to Americans nation wide.
You asked for numbers showing that hate crimes happened...I'm providing them...One letter of the alphabet at a time...
Although California...I might need a post by itself for those numbers and reporting agencies.
By the way...The second set of numbers after the 2006 or 2007, the months of July 2006-June 2007? Those are the deaths that have been listed now as hate related...It's a simple case of adding up the figures in those columns to get the 7,000+ total.
For the 'A' catagory, we're have 558 deaths so far. Without stats from Alaska that is, since they didn't provide numbers it seems. Good for them...Hopefully that means they got the hate problem whooped.
LOL! I just posted from the NIBRS/FBI Hate Crime pamphlet I have...Although I'm not doubting your link...Seems yours is only a PARTIAL information source. Interesting eh?
Found this though on your link which explains why that information isn't on that particular table/site location...
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/methodology.html
Seems I have the NIBRS totals.
Noooo, it seems you are lieing. AND you cannot comprehend what you read.
NIBRS has "MORE INFORMATION" not less than paper records AND the current electronic record.
AlicornsPrayer
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That's what I'm copying from. It's a state-by-state collected stats booklet/phamplet...what ever you'd like to call it. It's put out collectively by Hate Watchers Organization and the FBI. It also has listed the different hate groups that are being currently watched. Has some personal stories from some of the more horrendeous crimes, family memorials for lost loved ones, etc...
You WANT me to be lieing...You NEED me to be lieing. But simple fact is...I'm not. I have nothing to gain by lieing...I made a simple statement of fact about terrorism exsisting already here in our country through extremist hate groups...And you're the one wanting the exact numbers, the whole story, etc. of each individual incident...
I'm obliging you as you asked. And it's you trying to minimize that fact of life here in the US by saying your perferred terrorist of choice is more important then the home-grown ones...
And here's the real fun of it...I haven't even included the officers killed because of hate crimes, nor have I added yet the abortion bombings...The goverment building bombings, etc. done by these groups.
I'm just getting warmed up. You wanted proof that any type of hate-related crime occurred, that there was any hate organization exsisting in the US...I'm doing just that.
Don't shoot the messenger cause you don't like the message. You said it wasn't happening, I'm showing that it is happening. You just want to play semantics.
I'm willing to play. LOL!Ooohh stop it. You simply copied and pasted the figures from the web. Thats why the format is all jumbled up. And they are statistics for all crimes. Not "Hate Crimes" committed by any "hate groups". Your figure above of 55 murders in Birmingham is the # of all murders.
AlicornsPrayer
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No, it's not from copy/pasting. It's from typing out by hand...trying to add the spaces to create columns, by hand...and yet it's not reading that way when I hit post...
Here's an example
of trying to
make 3 columns
by hand entry.
All neat and in a row right now....Let's see that though once I hit 'submit reply'....
And I'm sure that one of the moderators can hit the 'edit' button on my post, where it will show it as all neat and in columns...but not in finished format.
Nope...Bunched it all up again.
Oh, and no...That's not...The reported number of murders nation wide from July 2006-June 2007was 17,034...And the figures, once I have all the states up doesn't add up to 17,034 murders. But adds up to 7,754 HATE related murders.
Anyway...I'll go try and see if using word pad helps any on that little problem...I'd hate to have to add dashes to keep it in order. Plus...I need to give my fingers a break, freshen up my coffee, and take the puppy out so I can get back on that list for you...Thanks for being patient.
Ive presented the written doctrine i am critical of, literal interpretations of that doctrine by so called respected Islamic scholars, and the writings of Islamic terrorist, espousing that doctrine to justify the need to "kill the Americans". Other than this belief of yours that criticism of the doctrine is criticism of 1.2 billion muslims, and your desire that I not do so, youve not really even presented anything relevant to my posts that you respond to.
Well, lets see
ALABAMA BIRMINGHAM 2006 233,577 1,586 55 122 704 705 8,920 2,242 5,710 968 98
2007 1,577 34 124 737 682 9,247 2,126 6,036 1,085 110
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/prelim2007/table4al_ca.htm
I guess you could have tried to modify it from this version copied and pasted from the text. Regardless. It is all crimes and IS NOT "hate crimes" committed by "hate groups"
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AlicornsPrayer
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Hey! Thank you for finding it on-line.
At least that looks like what's in my booklet...I'll have to cross-check the numbers...See what the difference is there. That saves me alot of time copying from my book if the numbers match from the site to the pamphlet. But it doesn't seem to have the other states listed...Don't worry, you gave me a start of where to look so I'll just work backwards. Again...Thank you very much for finding it. If this is where they got their figures from, it saves me alot of typing. Only have to use the link then. LOL!And from the pamphlet I have? It lists 'hate crimes' murders only...And it gives national numbers for total murders which exceed the number that I added up by calculator from the booklet itself...Guess I'll have to do the same with this link...See if not only the numbers match...But the totals as well.
WOOOHOOO!And no...Like I said and I'll repeat since you seem to miss it...I typed everything by hand, using the exact way the book did it...Although I couldn't do the itty-bitty numbers the book had next to some of the states...
My best guess is...The organization I got the book from, used that source to print the book...I'm going by what the book stated...It may or may not be right on the numbers themselves...BUT still...Hate crimes do occure like I said...And they happen frequently to boot...
Which means you still haven't disproven that it doesn't happen. IF your interpretation is correct on the numbers, it still doesn't say hate crimes don't occure...It still doesn't deter from the fact that US citizens are terrorized by the hate groups living here in the US...
You perfer one form of terrorism, and focus on that...I happen to focus on ALL terrorism, and we are more at threat from the home-grown, cause we can't make them leave. They just keep growing...
You still have that to disprove dear...And you haven't.
