Understanding the Enemy

[bewitched]

There is no social, political or theological order in existence that is capable of binding 1.2 billion souls in a coherent and homogenous whole.

You have absolutely no academic discernment if you subscribe to this absurd rhetoric.



Is it even necessary to point out the faulty logic in this statement????

yes there is a definate theology that binds these souls.
and yes I happen to teach at the university level.

 

[bewitched]

Southeast asia.

in an Islamic country? Indonesia maybe?
and how long were you there?

 

[bewitched]

so in one sentence (or two) can you name the enemy of the West?
the one that threatens the Homeland Security of the US?

 

[AlicornsPrayer]

so in one sentence (or two) can you name the enemy of the West?
the one that threatens the Homeland Security of the US?

That's easy...In fact, I can answer that with one word...

Ourselves.

By the way...bet you didn't know it, but there's this nifty little feature for posting to multiple posts at once...

It's called 'multi-quote' option...

If you press that little button next to the 'quote' button on every post you want to respond to? It'll put up each individual post you're wanting to address into one neat package. Then all you have to do is post your response after each little individual quote you're responding to...Creating one neat response.

I realize that it doesn't up your 'number of posts' information doing such...But it does cut down the multiple short response posts that just look like flooding...

 

[Coyote]

that's not true.
most muslims do support the killing of non-muslims because that's sharia law. so take the entire population of Saudi, because it's illegal to be Christian in that country, the penalty is death.

There are 1.2 billion muslims, the vast majority of which are peaceful and law abiding and do not support the killing of innocent people. All you offer is select portions of religious doctrine - that, like selected portions of any religious doctrine - can be used to justify murder. You totally overlook the many different levels of which this doctrine can be read and understood and instead select a fundamentalist interpretation.

If you have evidence - aside from a fundamentalist view of doctrine to support your allegation - that most muslims support the killing of non-muslims - then put up or shut up Steve.

By the way, Saudi Arabia has a population of 24,735,000. It is not even among the ten most populous muslim countries.

1 Indonesia 182,570,000
2 Pakistan 134,480,000
3 India 121,000,000
4 Bangladesh 114,080,000
5 Turkey 65,510,000
6 Iran 62,430,000
7 Egypt 58,630,000
8 Nigeria 53,000,000
9 Algeria 30,530,000
10 Morocco 28,780,000

can you name the respected clerics and organizations that denounce AQ and Ossama?

I've done this before and am not going to repeat myself. Do your own homework

 

[Coyote]

so in one sentence (or two) can you name the enemy of the West?
the one that threatens the Homeland Security of the US?

 

[Castle]

understanding the enemy - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

 

[jb_1430]

understanding the enemy - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Islamic doctrine in action. Its not just a religion, its a political platform.
http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8

 

[bewitched]

That's easy...In fact, I can answer that with one word...

Ourselves.

By the way...bet you didn't know it, but there's this nifty little feature for posting to multiple posts at once...

It's called 'multi-quote' option...

If you press that little button next to the 'quote' button on every post you want to respond to? It'll put up each individual post you're wanting to address into one neat package. Then all you have to do is post your response after each little individual quote you're responding to...Creating one neat response.

I realize that it doesn't up your 'number of posts' information doing such...But it does cut down the multiple short response posts that just look like flooding...

thanks for the tip. I might try that but I prefer addressing one point in one post.
as for ourselves being the enemy, can you elaborate how you are a danger to me? or how my next door neighbor is a terrorism risk?

 

[bewitched]

There are 1.2 billion muslims, the vast majority of which are peaceful and law abiding and do not support the killing of innocent people. All you offer is select portions of religious doctrine - that, like selected portions of any religious doctrine - can be used to justify murder. You totally overlook the many different levels of which this doctrine can be read and understood and instead select a fundamentalist interpretation.

If you have evidence - aside from a fundamentalist view of doctrine to support your allegation - that most muslims support the killing of non-muslims - then put up or shut up Steve.

By the way, Saudi Arabia has a population of 24,735,000. It is not even among the ten most populous muslim countries.

1 Indonesia 182,570,000
2 Pakistan 134,480,000
3 India 121,000,000
4 Bangladesh 114,080,000
5 Turkey 65,510,000
6 Iran 62,430,000
7 Egypt 58,630,000
8 Nigeria 53,000,000
9 Algeria 30,530,000
10 Morocco 28,780,000




I've done this before and am not going to repeat myself. Do your own homework

when the war begins between 2010 and 2013, what side do you think all those millions will be on? think they will be your peaceful friends?

 

[bewitched]

Islamic doctrine in action. Its not just a religion, its a political platform.
http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8

this is the most difficult thing for many Americans to understand. since we live in freedom and democracy some can't even imagine that there are those who don't.
Islam is 24/7 the way freedom is 24/7 for us.
(well except for OJ)

 

[numinus]

So you think that when Bin Laden complained in 98 about the US "occupying the lands of Islam", "turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples", "continuing aggression against the Iraqi people", "humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors", "the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres..." and "their eagerness to destroy Iraq, ..." and called upon Muslims "to kill the Americans", what he really meant was "may I have some more please Sir" ?

More like 'Wanna piece of me? Come get some.' but that's close enough.

 

[numinus]

True, but there is a "political" and "theological order" in the Koran and Haddiths that has managed to bind 10s of thousands in a coherent whole, who insist that the world can be ruled ONLY, by what "allah has revealed" and are willing to "slay them where you find them" when it comes to anybody who they percieve to be in their way of obtaining those goals.

So does western-style democracy,as I have pointed out. But apparently, the point flew past by you.

Im thrilled that it only binds these 10s of thousands, instead of the 1.2 billion, but Im still critical of the doctrine that does bind them. I would be critical of the doctrine if it only binded together the 19 hijackers and no one else. The written doctrine remains the same regardless of how many people adhere to that doctrine.

As well as the fact can be demonstrated - you are incapable of critical thought.

If your criticism of various ideologies were at all principled, you would criticize islam and western democracy with equal measure. But you don't, do you?

Its called 'arbitrary'. It demonstrate the utter lack of INTELLECTUAL RIGOR in your argument.

 

[numinus]

yes there is a definate theology that binds these souls.

No.

A theology is dependent on interpretation. We have already agreed there is no single school of thought nor interpretation that binds the 1.2 billion moslems in the world. For the most part, people tend to synthesize doctrine to their cultural circumstance - hence creating a distinct world view.

Roman catholicism for instance, is practiced differently in asia and the vatican, fyi.

and yes I happen to teach at the university level.

Teach what? Certainly not political science nor philosophy.

Let me guess - creative writing?

 

[numinus]

so in one sentence (or two) can you name the enemy of the West?
the one that threatens the Homeland Security of the US?

LOL.

Is this a pop quiz?