Thoughts on the Death Penalty

[pjmret]

Life without parole is an appropriate sentence for lesser offenses.

Prove it

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Life without parole is an appropriate sentence for lesser offenses.

Like Trump's many crimes.

 

[Randomguy]

Trump is guilty as hell of what he was convicted of and a whole lot more. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath and cannot be rehabilitated. He should be incarcerated until he is no threat to anyone.

We should execute NOBODY unless the evidence is exceedingly clear. Like McVeigh, for example.

FTR: i think (even) mcvey should not have been executed.

 

[Phoenix68]

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How A Legacy Of Racial Violence Informs Missouri's Death Penalty Today
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"The first documented lynching in U.S. history happened in Missouri in 1838. By the late 1800s, racial terror lynchings had increased in regularity, particularly in Southern, former slave-holding states. Throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, at least 60 Black Missourians were killed in lynchings, making it the state with the second highest number of racial terror lynchings outside of the South.

Although the number of lynchings declined, public executions continued in Missouri longer than all but one other state. Public executions were a form of racial violence: there are examples of sheriffs providing execution attendees with souvenirs such as pieces of the ropes used to hang Black people and even the victim’s body parts. After a quadruple execution in St. Louis, a drug store owner was permitted to display the severed head of a Black person who was executed in his shop. The constant reminders of brutal lynchings and executions were used by white people to continually threaten and intimidate Black people."

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[Randomguy]

You are right. Bill Ayers was the son of privileged prominent Democrats so he escaped a murder conviction, famously declaring as he exited the courtroom, "Guilty as hell but free as a bird."

i doubt the veracity of this claim even though you put in quotes. any cite?

 

[Randomguy]

Allowing the overwhelming majority of cold blooded murders off on lighter sentences for any reason is unjust.

blah blah blah

 

[Randomguy]

Innocent victims of guilty verdicts in criminal trials is no justification for doing away with guilty verdicts or appropriate sentences.

actually it is.

here:

Is it Better that Ten Guilty Persons Go Free Than that One ...​

Office of Justice Programs (.gov)
https://www.ojp.gov › ncjrs › virtual-library › abstracts




by V Halvorsen · Cited by 48 — This article examines and attempts to interpret a 1769 doctrine that says, “the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent ...

 

[pjmret]

i doubt the veracity of this claim even though you put in quotes. any cite?

Seems a valid quote... from an Era long gone
Mark obsessed about him

 

[Randomguy]

Families of murder victims do not think the murderers should be given light sentences. Light sentences for serious crimes are unjust.

no one pushed for "light sentences". are you severely incompetent or severely dishonest?

 

[mark francis]

FTR: i think (even) mcvey should not have been executed.

Executing mass murderers for committing mass murder is just

 

[Randomguy]

Seems a valid quote... from an Era long gone
Mark obsessed about him

i do not make inquiries like that lightly. i googled and only found one unfamiliar source. no nyt or wapo eg.

 

[mark francis]

actually it is.

here:

Is it Better that Ten Guilty Persons Go Free Than that One ...​

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Office of Justice Programs (.gov)
https://www.ojp.gov › ncjrs › virtual-library › abstracts




by V Halvorsen · Cited by 48 — This article examines and attempts to interpret a 1769 doctrine that says, “the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent ...

Being unjustly condemned is a result of human error and sin, as we have seen in Trump's unjust persecution by the wicked

 

[Randomguy]

Executing mass murderers for committing mass murder is just

your opinion is no more valid than mine on face of it. but i have argument in favor of my position. i suspect you have none or crappy/religous ones.

here is mine: "punishment" should only be for deterrence. period.

 

[pjmret]

Executing mass murderers for committing mass murder is just

Prove it

 

[mark francis]

i doubt the veracity of this claim even though you put in quotes. any cite?

Do you know how to use internet search engines? If so there is no excuse for you to doubt the truth of irrefutable facts