Thoughts on the Death Penalty

[mark francis]

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Is that what Routh is now claiming, "My folks made me do it?" Did Bill Ayers blame his rich privileged democrat parents for the murders he was involved in?

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

The definition of an inalienable right is one that cannot be taken away.

No one is an inalienable right to life in any country that has a death penalty.
No one has an inalienable right to liberty in any country where the state can imprison anyone for any reason.
No one has an inalienable right to pursue happiness if they cannot obtain adequate food and shelter.

The problem with the death penalty is that too many innocent people have been executed for crimes they did not commit. The State of Missouri recently executed a man whose innocence was proven by DNA evidence, but the judge refused to release him.

 

[Randomguy]

No dumb ass I support the death pensility for certain cases such as serial killers like Gacy and Dammer and others like they. Terriost and people who commit treason, any mass killers or political assassins . Vengeance you fool is when I do something to another person because they did something to me,

How do feel about the guy who got executed today in Missouri?

 

[mark francis]

The definition of an inalienable right is one that cannot be taken away.

No one is an inalienable right to life in any country that has a death penalty.
No one has an inalienable right to liberty in any country where the state can imprison anyone for any reason.
No one has an inalienable right to pursue happiness if they cannot obtain adequate food and shelter.

The problem with the death penalty is that too many innocent people have been executed for crimes they did not commit. The State of Missouri recently executed a man whose innocence was proven by DNA evidence, but the judge refused to release him.

There is no legitimate right to murder someone without having to suffer appropriate punishment.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Who decides what is legitimate? Who decides what evidence is credible?
In the case in Missouri, DNA evidence proved that the convicted guy could not have committed the murder, but the judge refused to call for another trial, and the guy was executed.

 

[the annoying thing]

The definition of an inalienable right is one that cannot be taken away.

No one is an inalienable right to life in any country that has a death penalty.
No one has an inalienable right to liberty in any country where the state can imprison anyone for any reason.
No one has an inalienable right to pursue happiness if they cannot obtain adequate food and shelter.

The problem with the death penalty is that too many innocent people have been executed for crimes they did not commit. The State of Missouri recently executed a man whose innocence was proven by DNA evidence, but the judge refused to release him.

first the state can not jail for any reason they want short of a national security risk.
They get food and shelter in jail
Im not worried about serial killers terrorist baby killers etc. being happy if its important to you that people like John Wayne Gacy and Richard Ramerez are well fed happy and comfortable to me thy are monsters and deserve to die for their crimes as they can never be trusted not ever.
Like Richard look at all the deaths injury's rapes and satanic crap he did not to mention kidnapping little kids and raping them .
My self its a relief knowing they are dead they can never hurt another person.

 

[mark francis]

Who decides what is legitimate? Who decides what evidence is credible?
In the case in Missouri, DNA evidence proved that the convicted guy could not have committed the murder, but the judge refused to call for another trial, and the guy was executed.

Should we execute nobody because some are wrongly executed? Should we jail nobody because some, like Trump, are wrongly convicted?

 

[Randomguy]

Should we execute nobody because some are wrongly executed? Should we jail nobody because some, like Trump, are wrongly convicted?

How about just not executing those who even the prosecutor says are likely innocent?

You do this a lot: you bring the most extreme example on one side to support your position. But when others mention the opposite extreme example, you cower.

You are not an honest debater.

 

[mark francis]

How about just not executing those who even the prosecutor says are likely innocent?

You do this a lot: you bring the most extreme example on one side to support your position. But when others mention the opposite extreme example, you cower.

You are not an honest debater.

For effective law and order the punishment must meet the crime.

 

[Randomguy]

For effective law and order the punishment must meet the crime.

Blah blah blah Mr obvious man. You asked a specific question and I gave you an answer. But it seems the answer freaked you out.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Is that what Routh is now claiming, "My folks made me do it?" Did Bill Ayers blame his rich privileged democrat parents for the murders he was involved in?

He was convicted of NOTHING

 

[pjmret]

For effective law and order the punishment must meet the crime.

Meaningless vague statement

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Should we execute nobody because some are wrongly executed? Should we jail nobody because some, like Trump, are wrongly convicted?

Trump is guilty as hell of what he was convicted of and a whole lot more. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath and cannot be rehabilitated. He should be incarcerated until he is no threat to anyone.

We should execute NOBODY unless the evidence is exceedingly clear. Like McVeigh, for example.

 

[pjmret]

Should we execute nobody because some are wrongly executed? Should we jail nobody because some, like Trump, are wrongly convicted?

Life without parole
So mistakes aren't permanent

No one is suggesting not to jail anyone duh

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Any time DNA evidence that has not been presented in a case is discovered, then the case should be reevaluated.