Religion of Peace At It Again

[jb_1430]

I'm sure you know exactly what is motivating their behavior. Keep working on that bandaid philosophy

I take them at their word. You on the other hand, living in a world where nothing is as it seems, simply reject their stated reality and replace it with one of your own. Some kind of coping mechanism I guess.

 

[Coyote]

I take them at their word. You on the other hand, living in a world where nothing is as it seems, simply reject their stated reality and replace it with one of your own. Some kind of coping mechanism I guess.

Nope, I'm simply trying to follow your train of illogic. Here I am innocently taking the Bible at it's word and you tell me - NO, I can't do that. So I switch gears, consider the Quran and consider your words and don't take it at it's word and - OOPS - buzzzzzzz - nope, can't do that either. It MUST be taken at it's word.

No wonder religion is so confusing.

 

[jb_1430]

Yet you ignore the same sort of "plain and ordinary meaning of the words" within the bible.
Umh...there is a word for that. Hypocrite.

What bull shiite. I directly addressed them. Provided the context that you ignore, and yet, still you havent grasped the distinction between Jesus telling his followers to bring those who refuse to follow him and slay them, and some King in a parable saying the same. Still havent grasped the distinction between a prophecy that says Jesus is going to destroy the unbelievers, and a commandment from Allah telling the believers to destroy the unbelievers. One is a potential problem if Jesus comes back, the other is a problem as long as there are believers of allah around to carry out that commandment.

 

[jb_1430]

Nope, I'm simply trying to follow your train of illogic. Here I am innocently taking the Bible at it's word and you tell me - NO, I can't do that.

Never said any such thing. Another, in a long line of pointless strawman arguements in a pathetic attempt to create an illusion that you have an actual arguement. At least your consistant.

 

[Coyote]

Never said any such thing. Another, in a long line of pointless strawman arguements in a pathetic attempt to create an illusion that you have an actual arguement. At least your consistant.

Ok, then I should take all those biblical extortions of violence at their word. That makes it a little easier.

 

[Coyote]

What bull shiite. I directly addressed them. Provided the context that you ignore, and yet, still you havent grasped the distinction between Jesus telling his followers to bring those who refuse to follow him and slay them, and some King in a parable saying the same. Still havent grasped the distinction between a prophecy that says Jesus is going to destroy the unbelievers, and a commandment from Allah telling the believers to destroy the unbelievers. One is a potential problem if Jesus comes back, the other is a problem as long as there are believers of allah around to carry out that commandment.

There is no distinction if we are only going by the literal wording of the texts and that is what you are doing with the Quran.

 

[OPGhostdog]

Welll, what ya been waiting for? You havent yet addressed any of the quotes Ive provided from the Koran and haddiths, not a one of the quotes from your fellow Muslims. In fact youve not addressed ANYTHING relevent to the topic of the thread and can seem to only be able to discuss your own personal feelings about me and your religion. Get on with it! Shiite or get off the pot.

Why should I address isues that I find not worthy to discuss?
None of that crap you are talking about is worth my time being
wasted, and I suggest that what you need to do is Shut the
f*** up, and move on to something else.

HELL NO I am not address anything concerning the topic, due
to the fact that I am checking you and your paragenda crap.
So I am making you the topic or subject whichever one you
want to be called. You damn right I am expressing my personal
feelings, and isn't that what you are doing? You are pissing me
off with your non-educated bs, and you are reversing the script
like everyone else is flipping but you.

In closing, and this will be all I have to post to your bull****.
You will NEVER reach the educational level I am at when it
comes to learning and know my religion. So before the moderators
ban me for checking you. While you are the one who is keeping
the mess going. I am going to chill a minute, but when I notice
that you are posting crap again....I am going to speak out.

 

[jb_1430]

Ok, then I should take all those biblical extortions of violence at their word. That makes it a little easier.

In Luke 19:22-27, Jesus orders killed anyone who refuses to be ruled by him.

Anyone who retains any sembalance of sanity or honesty, can read the parable of 10 Minas below (as opposed to the last verse in isolation) and see that you are pretty much full of shiite. And quite aptly demonstrating my point for me. A complete misrepresentaion and purposeful distortion of the literal word gets you justification for violence from the bible. I simply copy and paste the words from the koran and Im accused of demonizing the Koran.

The Parable of the Ten Minas
11While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a]'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.' 14"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'

15"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'

17" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'

18"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'

19"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'

20"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'

22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'

24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'

25" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'

26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke 19&version=31

 

[jb_1430]

I will take you on any day and anytime. You with your internet research, and me with my Bible & Quran.

Why should I address isues that I find not worthy to discuss?

LOLOLOLOL! Sooo predictable.

 

[jb_1430]

In closing, and this will be all I have to post to your bull****.
...I am going to chill a minute, but when I notice
that you are posting crap again....I am going to speak out.

Posted in the hope that you judge it to be crap.

We must destroy those who follow democracy, and we must take their followers as enemies - hate them and wage a great Jihad against them.
....
If you come to understand this, you should know that the greatest step of adherence to this firmest handhold and the highest step of disbelief in this man-made deity is the Climax of Islam. By this I mean 'The Jihad'. The Jihad against the deity, his followers, and helpers, to try to damage this man-made
system, and to try to get the people to turn away from worshipping it and return to the worship of Allah alone.
...
“We are through with you and those you worship other than Allah. We reject you. Enmity and hate have come between you and us for ever, unless you believe in Allah, the One”.
...
So a human will not be doing his duty or obligation, unless he hates them, and takes them as enemies. Consider how Allah mentioned their disapproval of the polytheist people, before the disapproval of what they
worshipped, because the first is more important than the second.
...
Allah said "Gather all the wicked together and
their Comrades, and those they had worshipped". 21 Comrades means: everyone who is like them, their helpers and supporters in falsehood. Then Allah said: "So, they will become partners in punishment. That is how we deal with sinners. They were those who, when it was said to them “there is no god but Allah” behaved with insolence."
http://www.islamicthinkers.com/index/files/books/aqeedah/Democracy - A Religion.pdf

 

[saggyjones]

USMC, please don't take the actions of a minority of a group and use them to represent the whole group. It's called stereotyping, and it's wrong. I don't mean politically incorrect, I mean it's not accurate. I agree that most terrorists are Muslims, but most Muslims aren't terrorists. Instead of criticizing and entire religion based on the actions of a minority within it, why don't you criticize the minority itself? It might show a little more class, and you wouldn't look like such a jackass, if you even care about that.

 

[USMC the Almighty]

It might show a little more class, and you wouldn't look like such a jackass, if you even care about that.

I am way beyond caring who I offend. I'm going to call it as I see it and I don't give a damn if I am not following the liberal PC censorship.

The fact of the matter is that Muslims comprise the biggest threat to this country.

 

[jb_1430]

USMC, please don't take the actions of a minority of a group and use them to represent the whole group. It's called stereotyping, and it's wrong. I don't mean politically incorrect, .

You may not mean it but thats exactly what it is. This semming ban on criticism of the Islamic "religion" because it might be viewed or percieved as an attack on all Muslims. So just sweep it under the rug. Pretend it doesnt exist because we wouldnt want to offend anyone. Pathetic.

 

[jb_1430]

There is no distinction if we are only going by the literal wording of the texts and that is what you are doing with the Quran.

Nonsense. The distinction is while you want to use the literal meaning of a select few of the words, and completely disregard the plain and ordinary meaning of the words that immediately preceed them, I refer to the meaning of all the words.

 

[Coyote]

Nonsense. The distinction is while you want to use the literal meaning of a select few of the words, and completely disregard the plain and ordinary meaning of the words that immediately preceed them, I refer to the meaning of all the words.

I am looking at the literal meaning of a passage as an extremist might look at it. I'm not saying that's just a parable so it doesn't count type of crap.