"I'd be dead without Obamacare."

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As well as income tax there is also VAT (Sales Tax) at 20% on everything except babystuff...I think. Fuel tax which is something like £0.75 per litre of fuel and a litre of fuel here is about £1.20
I worked it out that I am an indentured slave to the state for up to almost 7 months of each tax year - effectively up to the middle of July I am working for the state
 
The Scotsman said:
As well as income tax there is also VAT (Sales Tax) at 20% on everything except babystuff...I think. Fuel tax which is something like £0.75 per litre of fuel and a litre of fuel here is about £1.20
I worked it out that I am an indentured slave to the state for up to almost 7 months of each tax year - effectively up to the middle of July I am working for the state
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I've read some of that before, it's amazing . We are a nation of close to 350 million, I can't fathom the cost. i've read what others think it would be, but they always underestimate..But something has to be done.
 
grumpy said:
I've read some of that before, it's amazing .
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Its astounding how much tax we actually pay its not the income tax as such its the hidden costs
Alcohol tax bottle of wine for example minimum £2.00 tax. Pint of beer tax starts at £0.46 a glass
Insurance premium tax - policy premium you pay an additional 19% in tax
When you buy a house, on values between £125,000 and £250,000 you pay 2% it then goes up, you pay 5% on the value of the property above £250,000 - the average house price in the UK is around £300,000.
I could go on... but I'm losing the will to live.....:cry:
 
The Scotsman said:
Its astounding how much tax we actually pay its not the income tax as such its the hidden costs
Alcohol tax bottle of wine for example minimum £2.00 tax. Pint of beer tax starts at £0.46 a glass
Insurance premium tax - policy premium you pay an additional 19% in tax
When you buy a house, on values between £125,000 and £250,000 you pay 2% it then goes up, you pay 5% on the value of the property above £250,000 - the average house price in the UK is around £300,000.
I could go on... but I'm losing the will to live.....:cry:
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I gotta ask.. where does it end?
 
grumpy said:
I gotta ask.. where does it end?
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buggered if I know mate. Its not just paying for the NHS its all the other social programs that have to be paid for which just absord gobs of money and then we have politicians standing up and saying "Oh and by the way chaps we need to spend gazzzilions of cash on updating our nuclear missile submarine fleet" Absolutely, brilliant, what a fab idea!! What the f**k do we need nuclear missile subs for! Who the hell are we going to fry...iceland!!?? We have 4 nuclear subs and god knows how many missiles that sit in silos, all doing bugger all and over 10 admirals of the bloody fleet in charge of the damned things!! With all the shit we have to pay for some bright spark thinks that having nice shiney nuclear toys is a wonderful use of my money. I give up.

Seriously though I know this debate is about health care and all that jazz and despite all the bad press the NHS gets it does a pretty good job, the majority of the issues only really occur during the winter months when a lot of the older folk get ill or the slips and fall on ice that kindda thing. In all honesty its worth the cost and i'm no socialist I can tell you!
 
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GOP health-care bill would drop addiction treatment mandate covering 1.3 million Americans

The Republican proposal to replace the Affordable Care Act would strip away what advocates say is essential coverage for drug addiction treatment as the number of people dying from opiate overdoses is skyrocketing nationwide.
Beginning in 2020, the plan would eliminate an Affordable Care Act requirement that Medicaid cover basic mental-health and addiction services in states that expanded it, allowing them to decide whether to include those benefits in Medicaid plans.
The proposal would also roll back the Medicaid expansion under the act — commonly known as Obamacare — which would affect many states bearing the brunt of the opiate crisis, including Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia. Thirty-one states and the District of Columbia expanded Medicaid under the ACA.
“Taken as a whole, it is a major retreat from the effort to save lives in the opiate epidemic,” said Joshua Sharfstein, associate dean at Johns Hopkins Medical School.
Advocates and others stress that mental-health disorders sometimes fuel drug addiction, making both benefits essential to combating the opioid crisis.
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If I'm reading this correctly... this means that the provisions under ACA that provided funding for the treatment for drug addicts will be put into the hands of individual states and make them responsible for providing for drug addicted individuals? If that's the case then each state will have to be responsible for finding funds from their budgets? I just wonder why as a tax payer I would want to provide money to drug addicts? It states in the article that death rates are now staggeringly high and will get worse if these provisions go through! Okay... great.... more die less to worry about less to pay...
 
grumpy said:
I gotta ask.. where does it end?
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It ends when greed ends. It is like the CEO of a pharma corporation that increases the cost of a medication already researched, and on the market for 10 years, by 400-600%, and then increases their salary by 900%. Or the insurance CEO increases the cost of premiums by 200%, and then increases his own salary by 250% even though the insurance company shows no increase in profit. Or the CEO of a mega corporation increases their prices to the consumer by 100-200%, and then sees the corporate profit level increase by 150%.

In spite of all of this, the rich getting richer while the middle class disappears, Trump, and the Republicans, want to eliminate the ACA (or so they claim), increase the gas tax by 0.25 per gallon (like that is going to hurt the wealthy, not the middle class, and the poor), and lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations.
 
The Scotsman said:
GOP health-care bill would drop addiction treatment mandate covering 1.3 million Americans



If I'm reading this correctly... this means that the provisions under ACA that provided funding for the treatment for drug addicts will be put into the hands of individual states and make them responsible for providing for drug addicted individuals? If that's the case then each state will have to be responsible for finding funds from their budgets? I just wonder why as a tax payer I would want to provide money to drug addicts? It states in the article that death rates are now staggeringly high and will get worse if these provisions go through! Okay... great.... more die less to worry about less to pay...
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Well, the plan being discussed stands no chance of passage.
 
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