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[Mare Tranquillity]

I find it impossible to learn CHRISTIANITY from a atheist since they know so very little about it!

I'll be sure to mention that to any atheists I meet. Did you have a point to make?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

People are fed up with the fring media.

So much there will be nationwide protests.

What in the 7 billion names of God is "fring media"?

 

[Dante the Marxist]

Gosh, Al, you ought to read my posts before you respond to them. My problem is not with the teachings of Jesus, it's with the actions of the self-identified "Christians" who ignore His teachings.

I am still waiting for even one, single Christian to post and advocate what Jesus said were the two most important commandments in the Bible without my bringing them up first. Not once on all the discussion sites I have been on has a Christian ever brought them up or advocated them as the basis for Christian behavior.

On revleft.com, there are christian posters who advocate much of the stuff you mentioned.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

I am not sure I understand what you are waiting for. Granted I jumped into this thread when it was already 4 pages long but....

You want to know who tipped off investigators that Acorn was sending fabricated voter registrations?

Which time in which case? Acorn voter fraud goes at least back to 2004, and likely prior. Further, they have investigations of voter fraud in 14 states, and 11 of which have already turned up hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent voter registrations.

So, I'm a little confused as to what information you specifically want. You want me to find out who complained about fraudulent applications in each state? And which time? Acorn has had fraudulent voter registrations multiple times in many states.

1. I was asking little Acorn
2. Learn what
"Voter Fraud" and Voter Registration Fraud" are, and what the differance is...
The
case i am talking about is the case in AZ I belive tha was tthe one where the Right went nutz screaing look Fraud all over the media during the 08 Election...and the Question is, who turned in the Reg forms and said they felt they where a fraud and or questionable?

LIttle acorn has gone into duck and cover more. You are free to respond, but I want Acorn to.

 

[Andy]

This could be just a cut and paste copy of one of Who's posts. The same bullship under a different name.

Which is another way of saying that we agree on the truth, and you do not. That's ok with me. More insults will not change our understanding.

No matter how you phrase it there are millions of people without adequate medical care

Compared to who?

we are involved in preemptive war

And?

we have an uncounted number of people who are homeless

So?

and the top 1% of the people in this country control more money than the bottom 95%.

Yes and lowest 10% of our country have automobiles which places them in the top 7% in the world. Perhaps you think the socialist system in China would be better? Not as many rich people, but 66% of the population was under the poverty level of $2 a day.

Who's trying to do something about all of this? Not conservatives because they don't want anyone to tell them that they HAVE to help others even when the person telling them is Jesus.

Do you realize the conservatives routinely give more money to charity than liberals? Obama himself was in the top 1% of wage earners prior to getting into the white house, and yet gave less than 1% of his income in charity, and even then it was to political supporters.

In reality the reason is actually very logical. Liberals believe it is the right and duty of government to steal other peoples money, and give it out to various groups. So, since that's governments job, they don't feel like they should do it.

Conservatives believe that it isn't governments job, and it should be the public that supports charity, which is why they give far more to charity. Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago, is operated completely from private charity sources. Zero government dollars. They have an in house clinic, training classes, Bible studies, room and board, free clothes, and other benefits for those in need. I won't bother going into the other charities I support.

I love how you excuse rich people by claiming that two rich peope in the Bible managed to get into Heaven.

You claimed rich people can't get into Heaven. I pointed out two rich people who got into Heaven. A statement can be proven false on a single example. I gave two.

Walmart has raped the economies of thousands of small towns and I'm supposed to be impressed with them giving $272 to charity?

That would be $272 Million. How much have you given to charity in your whole life?

It's not charity if you give only of your increase because charity comes only from giving of your substance.

In 2002 Obama earned $272,000 dollars. He gave $1,470 dollars to charity.
Last year I earned $20,000 dollars, and gave $2,600 dollars to charity.

Notice, I'm the evil uncharitable conservative.

And finally, you once again rely on the KKK for your argument against equality for gay people. And just like Who you ignore what Jesus said was the second most important commandment in the Bible. Some Christian you turned out to be.

Thank you

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Just a point andy, you cant prove who gets into Heaven....Unless you happen to have died gone there and seen it yourself maybe

 

[Andy]

1. I was asking little Acorn
2. Learn what
"Voter Fraud" and Voter Registration Fraud" are, and what the differance is...
The
case i am talking about is the case in AZ I belive tha was tthe one where the Right went nutz screaing look Fraud all over the media during the 08 Election...and the Question is, who turned in the Reg forms and said they felt they where a fraud and or questionable?

LIttle acorn has gone into duck and cover more. You are free to respond, but I want Acorn to.

I see. So you demand little-Acorn to respond, as if he would care. Well that's fine.

So you would suggest that voter registration fraud is completely separate from voter fraud.... because having fraudulent registered voters, will in no way result in fraudulent votes?

I'm going to take a wild stab and theorize that the purpose of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms, was to allow the casting of fraudulent votes. What do you suggest the goal was?

Well, off hand, without doing some research into the AZ situation. Here in Ohio the Hamilton County board of elections, discovered street addresses which placed the homes in the middle of the Ohio River. Logically an investigation followed. They even found some addresses that were restaurants.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

Which is another way of saying that we agree on the truth, and you do not. That's ok with me. More insults will not change our understanding.



Compared to who?

The rest of the developed world.

And?

And the most healthy and strong of our nation are dying over oil.

So?

So most of those people did thier jobs well and got layed off because the corporate chiefs would rather lay off millions than take a small cut in thier pay.

Yes and lowest 10% of our country have automobiles which places them in the top 7% in the world. Perhaps you think the socialist system in China would be better? Not as many rich people, but 66% of the population was under the poverty level of $2 a day.

China is anything but socialistic. It is laissez-faire capitalism at its best.

Do you realize the conservatives routinely give more money to charity than liberals? Obama himself was in the top 1% of wage earners prior to getting into the white house, and yet gave less than 1% of his income in charity, and even then it was to political supporters.

In reality the reason is actually very logical. Liberals believe it is the right and duty of government to steal other peoples money, and give it out to various groups. So, since that's governments job, they don't feel like they should do it.

Conservatives believe that it isn't governments job, and it should be the public that supports charity, which is why they give far more to charity. Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago, is operated completely from private charity sources. Zero government dollars. They have an in house clinic, training classes, Bible studies, room and board, free clothes, and other benefits for those in need. I won't bother going into the other charities I support.

Thats exactly what communists do[except for the bible studies]! I am glad we agree with each other on at least ONE thing!

You claimed rich people can't get into Heaven. I pointed out two rich people who got into Heaven. A statement can be proven false on a single example. I gave two.



That would be $272 Million. How much have you given to charity in your whole life?

For what walmart makes, thats barely a few bucks to them.

In 2002 Obama earned $272,000 dollars. He gave $1,470 dollars to charity.
Last year I earned $20,000 dollars, and gave $2,600 dollars to charity.

Notice, I'm the evil uncharitable conservative.

Obama is a fascist. Another thing the two "c's" agree upon. I made a new phrase!

Thank you

 

[Andy]

Just a point andy, you cant prove who gets into Heaven....Unless you happen to have died gone there and seen it yourself maybe

Of course not. This is a matter of Christian faith. If you are not a Christian, and based on the conversational evidence you have given in the past I have reason to believe you are not, there is nothing for you to believe in here.

You have the right, to go off and believe... pretty much whatever you want.

If you wish to know what the Bible says, it's fairly simple. We are all doomed to separation from God as a matter of our own choices. However, Jesus Christ, has given everyone the option to follow him, accept him as Lord and Savior, to be given eternal life in Heaven. This is what the Bible teaches, and what I believe.

But each person has to make their own choice in the matter. I can not relate to you what I've seen, heard, felt. Nor can I show you a bottle of carbonated heaven to prove it's existence. I can show you historical evidence, prophetic evidence. And all that is nice and good, but ultimately it still boils down to a choice of what you want to believe.

 

[Andy]

The rest of the developed world.

That's kinda my point. The rest of the developed world relied on Capitalism. Socialist countries, like Cuba, China, Russia, all failed and were mired in poverty. Even Venezuela is falling like a rock since it started marching towards socialism.

And the most healthy and strong of our nation are dying over oil.

Well, that's a nice nutty socialist conspiracy theory, but not really logical or supportable by those who can think for themselves.

So most of those people did thier jobs well and got layed off because the corporate chiefs would rather lay off millions than take a small cut in thier pay.

Another of those rather lame socialist conspiracy theories. So in your world, GM which lost $9.6 Billion, was because of GM's board of director's average salary of $120,000. Let's round that up to $150K. 12 people on the board, at $150K is $1.8 Million.

So if only those 12 board members had cut their pay, it would have offset the $9.8 Billion, and fixed everything, and all the workers could keep their jobs? Fuzzy math.

China is anything but socialistic. It is laissez-faire capitalism at its best.

It is now. But it was not prior to 1978. Prior, it was a socialist nightmare, where roughly 66% of the population was under the poverty level of $2 a day. Compared with Hong Kong, which was an economic power in the region, and yet exactly like China culturally, and yet had almost no resources.

Thats exactly what communists do[except for the bible studies]! I am glad we agree with each other on at least ONE thing!

No, that isn't what communists do. That is what they claim to do. But what they claim, and what actually happens, are two very different things. In Cuba, most people get almost nothing, and are willing to die trying to escape from the socialist hell. In Venezuela, people find their homes, their lands confiscated and dolled out to people who didn't earn them, nor have the ability to maintain them. They find products becoming massively more expensive, and imports difficult to acquire. The largest export of Venezuela beyond oil, is people leaving the sinking economy, looking for better work in other countries. And let's not even talk about Russia. By the time Russia got done, people were so broke, so desperate, that people were killing and eating each other for lack of food.

So no, PGA does not forcibly take money from people, nor does it cause the entire economy to crash, and force people into poverty. In fact it trains people on how to go out, be a capitalist, and earn a living.

For what walmart makes, thats barely a few bucks to them.

So what? When you consider the millions of people that have jobs because of their business, and the wealth of products they make available to people for a lower price, they shouldn't have to donate a penny with how much wealth they are creating for America, and Americans. The fact they do, makes them just that much better.

Obama is a fascist. Another thing the two "c's" agree upon. I made a new phrase!

Fascist, socialist, nationalist, communist, a Rose by any other name....

 

[Dante the Marxist]

That's kinda my point. The rest of the developed world relied on Capitalism. Socialist countries, like Cuba, China, Russia, all failed and were mired in poverty. Even Venezuela is falling like a rock since it started marching towards socialism.

I would say that too, because there is a difference between socialism and communism. And a large one, at that.

Well, that's a nice nutty socialist conspiracy theory, but not really logical or supportable by those who can think for themselves.

Explain please...

Another of those rather lame socialist conspiracy theories. So in your world, GM which lost $9.6 Billion, was because of GM's board of director's average salary of $120,000. Let's round that up to $150K. 12 people on the board, at $150K is $1.8 Million.

So if only those 12 board members had cut their pay, it would have offset the $9.8 Billion, and fixed everything, and all the workers could keep their jobs? Fuzzy math.

By the corporate chiefs I mean all the executives, who could number in the thousands. So, it is not fuzzy math at all.

It is now. But it was not prior to 1978. Prior, it was a socialist nightmare, where roughly 66% of the population was under the poverty level of $2 a day. Compared with Hong Kong, which was an economic power in the region, and yet exactly like China culturally, and yet had almost no resources.

SOCIALIST, not communist. As I have said before, there is a difference.

No, that isn't what communists do. That is what they claim to do. But what they claim, and what actually happens, are two very different things. In Cuba, most people get almost nothing, and are willing to die trying to escape from the socialist hell. In Venezuela, people find their homes, their lands confiscated and dolled out to people who didn't earn them, nor have the ability to maintain them. They find products becoming massively more expensive, and imports difficult to acquire. The largest export of Venezuela beyond oil, is people leaving the sinking economy, looking for better work in other countries. And let's not even talk about Russia. By the time Russia got done, people were so broke, so desperate, that people were killing and eating each other for lack of food.

So no, PGA does not forcibly take money from people, nor does it cause the entire economy to crash, and force people into poverty. In fact it trains people on how to go out, be a capitalist, and earn a living.

Those countries claim to be communist, but are not. By believing those claims, you are believing and spreading the propaganda of those who you claim to be your enemies.

So what? When you consider the millions of people that have jobs because of their business, and the wealth of products they make available to people for a lower price, they shouldn't have to donate a penny with how much wealth they are creating for America, and Americans. The fact they do, makes them just that much better.

Even more lose jobs from the businesses that walmart destroys, and the only people it imploys are teenagers and the elderly, wich does not make up for the jobs lost. Those products they sell make a third of our population obese. You must also remember that they employ mass child-labor. They owe us all a huge debt wich can only be repaid by walmart surrendering its power to the workers.

Fascist, socialist, nationalist, communist, a Rose by any other name....

Why is communism always grouped together with fascism and nationalism? Thats just plain weird...

 

[AtheismIsReality]

You claimed rich people can't get into Heaven. I pointed out two rich people who got into Heaven. A statement can be proven false on a single example. I gave two.

I'm still wondering why you ignore the passage in Acts where Christians were suppose to sell their possessions for use by the Christian community.

You know Acts, right? That second book Luke supposedly wrote.

But then again, when does the source material matter...

 

[always]

I'm still wondering why you ignore the passage in Acts where Christians were suppose to sell their possessions for use by the Christian community.

You know Acts, right? That second book Luke supposedly wrote.

But then again, when does the source material matter...

LOL, LOL -- Here we have Lucifer trying to tell Believers about MORALITY!!
Lucifer , if YOU knew anything at all about GOD , about his LOVE and HIS teachings , YOU would not be in the poor position you are in ! YES, Satan rules this evil world BUT in the end , GOD will take Command , Destroy all evil and keep HIS promise to HIS Believers! But YOU already know all of this! Right?
CASE CLOSED! Now OPEN your mind! THINK!

 

[pocketfullofshells]

LOL, LOL -- Here we have Lucifer trying to tell Believers about MORALITY!!
Lucifer , if YOU knew anything at all about GOD , about his LOVE and HIS teachings , YOU would not be in the poor position you are in ! YES, Satan rules this evil world BUT in the end , GOD will take Command , Destroy all evil and keep HIS promise to HIS Believers! But YOU already know all of this! Right?
CASE CLOSED! Now OPEN your mind! THINK!

the biblical version of, your a poopy head , as a comeback...since you clearly had no good responce to the question...what a good christian...if asked a question about your faith, and you dont know...call them saten...

 

[pocketfullofshells]

I see. So you demand little-Acorn to respond, as if he would care. Well that's fine.

So you would suggest that voter registration fraud is completely separate from voter fraud.... because having fraudulent registered voters, will in no way result in fraudulent votes?

I'm going to take a wild stab and theorize that the purpose of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms, was to allow the casting of fraudulent votes. What do you suggest the goal was?

Well, off hand, without doing some research into the AZ situation. Here in Ohio the Hamilton County board of elections, discovered street addresses which placed the homes in the middle of the Ohio River. Logically an investigation followed. They even found some addresses that were restaurants.

well I thank you for making it so clear you have no idea what actuly was going on...or why.

I would respond, but I want to see how long it takes for little acorn to actuly respond. But I think he is going to just pretend he does not see the question,as to respond will only show that one he does not know what he is talking about or 2 he will be forced to say something he does not want to say becuse it hurts his case.