Bush US: Hypocrisy Personified & Astounding

[Shadow]

Given what he was left to work with,

Like what , Andy? A balanced budget. (for eg) Yep, that was a tough one to inherit. Look at it now. How many trillion does the US owe in national debts?? The sorry sod could not balance a check book , let alone a national budget . (and I feel sorry for him. He has been way out of his element since he took office. Why did it take a terror attack to define him?? or for him to define himself??? He was going nowhere and fast. But he did come into office with an agenda. The terrorist attack simply helped him fullfill his objectives.

No, bush was NOT the lesser of two evils at all. and to select him TWICE?? !! when the writing was on the wall . But if you like the "state of the nation" as it is today...........be my guest.

While we are at it..............lets describe the current "state of the union" . Lets see what a list like that would yield.

 

[BigRob]

Like what , Andy? A balanced budget. (for eg) Yep, that was a tough one to inherit. Look at it now. How many trillion does the US owe in national debts?? The sorry sod could not balance a check book , let alone a national budget . (and I feel sorry for him. He has been way out of his element since he took office. Why did it take a terror attack to define him?? or for him to define himself???

No, bush was NOT the lesser of two evils at all. and to select him TWICE?? !! when the writing was on the wall . But if you like the "state of the nation" as it is today...........be my guest.

Are you trying to argue that there was no massive national debt when Bush came into office?

 

[Andy]

Nope. but it would be refreshing to read that some actually ADMIT he is one.


actually he is cunning, devious , shallow . manipulative and inarticulate but that does not make him a true idiot. ;-) A true idiot by definition usually has more integrety at the level of his/her understanding. and they can't help their "disadvantage."

The same could be said of any number of politicians in any country on this planet. It could be said of the ***** in Venezuela, or that crack pot Mugabe in Zimbabwe. The difference is, they both are destroying their countries, we're building our and rebuilding others.

You can't really support these random personal attacks. Go get some education and come back. Try Yale or Harvard... you know... where Bush got his Bachelor's degree and MBA.

 

[Andy]

Like what , Andy? A balanced budget. (for eg) Yep, that was a tough one to inherit. Look at it now. How many trillion does the US owe in national debts?? The sorry sod could not balance a check book , let alone a national budget . (and I feel sorry for him. He has been way out of his element since he took office. Why did it take a terror attack to define him?? or for him to define himself???

No, bush was NOT the lesser of two evils at all. and to select him TWICE?? !! when the writing was on the wall . But if you like the "state of the nation" as it is today...........be my guest.

Like a recession... like a out of control Saddam... like a terrorist network that had already committed dozens of attack in the 8 years prior... You know... those "minor" things...

Yeah, they selected him twice because he was the best option in both cases.

 

[Shadow]

Or it speaks to the inability of the democratic party to organize anything

THAT is quite possible to probable too, Rob.

 

[Andy]

are these questions SERIOUS?? like don't you KNOW how to treat others with respect?? (for eg)


Try listening and hearing others. Try working WITH them as opposed to against them. Try stop creating enemies with the aggressive and verbal threats. ( and active wars ) Try DIALOGUING with others as opposed to DICTATING to them. or DEMANDING from them. Try softening the approach but with intelligence . Stop bragging about how great you are........as each nation has some greatness in it too. Respect the individual greatness of each nation and focus on it as opposed to overly aggressive threats.

Try PATIENCE. Not all nations speak the same language , or have the same culture . Any change in any nation (including the US) is PAINFUL.....and usually met with resistance at first. (human nature )

take the idea of "freedom'. It means different things to different people and culture. So it is IMPERATIVE to understand the culture one is dealing with or negotiating with.

LEARN about the world outside the US. Heck, until Afganistan was invaded, folks did not even know where it was. The only reason folks knew where Iraq was , was due to its oil wealth.

one can go on and on.

We are working with the population of Iraq. If we had done it your way, they'd be still going to rape rooms of Saddam's sons, and Saddam would still be testing out his 'non-existent' WMDs on villages in the north. If this is your suggestion, then no, I'll vote for another Bush type first.

 

[Shadow]

Yeah, they selected him twice because he was the best option in both cases.

I can see that you really BELIEVE that , Andy.

 

[Andy]

I can see that you really BELIEVE that , Andy.

Know it. Not just believe, know it for the factual truth that it is.

 

[Shadow]

Saddam would still be testing out his 'non-existent' WMDs on villages in the north

.........hmm. I guess according to you, it is just fine to USE the US WMD to slaughter, maim , hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women, children , pets , the elderly , the handicapped, just because SH sons were patholgical misfits.


IS KILLING your solution to all problems?? Or just the ones that have oil??

 

[Shadow]

Know it. Not just believe, know it for the factual truth that it is.

OK........ are there many others of this "ideology"??

 

[GenSeneca]

are these questions SERIOUS??

Yes, they are serious. Thank you for responding to them.

like don't you KNOW how to treat others with respect??

Well, after reading your reply... The concept of Respect seems to differ among countries and cultures.

Try listening and hearing others. Try working WITH them as opposed to against them. Try stop creating enemies with the aggressive and verbal threats.

You mean like how you listen to people like me? Doesn't seem like you do... Do you work with me as opposed to against me? Doesn't seem like you do....You certainly have used verbal abuse towards people who disagree....

Try DIALOGUING with others as opposed to DICTATING to them. or DEMANDING from them. Try softening the approach but with intelligence

And you do these things? You don't just preach to us about our evils, demanding we accept your opinions and you consider yours a soft approach thats based on intelligence?

Respect the individual greatness of each nation and focus on it as opposed to overly aggressive threats.

That would be sound advice for people like Bin Laden who seek to kill our civilians because he disagrees with our policies.... using overly aggressive threats to cast fear and doubt into the American culture. America doesn't do ANYTHING without at least running it past the international community.

Try PATIENCE. Not all nations speak the same language , or have the same culture . Any change in any nation is PAINFUL.....and usually met with resistance at first.

Thanks for being so patient with all us Americans.... I for one will resist any "Change" that seeks to undermine or eliminate the founding principals of my country.

take the idea of "freedom'. It means different things to different people and culture. So it is IMPERATIVE to understand the culture one is dealing with or negotiating with.

Then what does freedom mean to you... wherever you are? I don't consider being taken care of by the state freedom, I call that slavery.

one can go on and on.

Please do...

 

[BigRob]

.........hmm. I guess according to you, it is just fine to USE the US WMD to slaughter, maim , hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women, children , pets , the elderly , the handicapped, just because SH sons were patholgical misfits.


IS KILLING your solution to all problems?? Or just the ones that have oil??

What WMD did the US use in Iraq exactly?

 

[Andy]

.........hmm. I guess according to you, it is just fine to USE the US WMD to slaughter, maim , hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women, children , pets , the elderly , the handicapped, just because SH sons were patholgical misfits.


IS KILLING your solution to all problems?? Or just the ones that have oil??

Hearsay, hyperbole, zero substance. Example:

.......hmmm. I guess according to you, it is just fine for Saddam to use WMD to slaughter, maim , hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women, children , pets , the elderly , the handicapped, just because Saddam isn't the US.

Oddly, I can prove that Saddam did do those things, whereas statements from the Iraqi people prove we are not. Make a case, or find something better to do with your time.

 

[Andy]

OK........ are there many others of this "ideology"??

More than half the US. Thankfully.

 

[Andy]

He finely left. Amazing. 12 pages of posts, with not one single shred of evidence supporting the original claim. I'm sure he'll be back with more hearsay accusations.

Here's to Politics, the war of empty rhetoric.