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Do you think Clinton or Trump is the best candidate?

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by PLC1, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. joshposh

    joshposh Member

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    Trump is a person who's only stance is to play up to people emotions. Fear of Mexicans and Muslims. He has no clue about foreign and domestic policy. You can stand here and give me reasons why you hate Hillary Clinton, but at least you know where she is coming from and what direction she wants to go.

    Trump is all over the place as he lies for the sake of lying and speaks erratically. One day he will say one thing, and the next he will be opposed to what he just said. He is a master manipulator and master of persuasion. He makes speeches feeding on people emotions and with very little detail.

    When asked about the racist comments made about the judge with Mexican decent, but was born in America, the only thing he could say is "we're building a wall". He's a village idiot that has been tolerated but what is shocking is that people actually buy into his speeches and follow him blindly. That says something about the American people. I guess if people here can become Scientologist, then they can become a Trump supporter.

     
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  2. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think either one is qualified morally to be President. And I see the right wing relying of fear mongering, hate, and bigotry, to set Trump up. How they can support his "America" is beyond me, or any intellectual Not only does he want to change America, he wants to destroy what is left of the Constitution beginning with Freedom of Speech.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...dahleen-glanton-talk-20160722-column,amp.html


    "We can no longer afford to be the America that opens its arms to refugees in need of a safe haven, Trump says, or to immigrants desperate for a better way of life.

    According to the man who wants to be the leader of the free world, America should relinquish that title. Allies in need of aid will have to stop looking to us to extend a helping hand. We are going to be too busy taking care of ourselves.

    Trump would rather turn us into a me-first nation, one that feverishly scrambles to gather the fruits of America's prosperity to hoard for ourselves. We don't need to help countries that are unable to pay their fair share to NATO, hovering around trying to take what's ours.

    Beginning the day of his inauguration, Trump says, America will become a "law and order" nation. He doesn't explain how he plans to do it, except to say he will appoint the best and brightest prosecutors and law enforcement officials in the country to get the job properly done.

    For many African-Americans, Hispanics and other minorities, we can only assume it means lock us up and throw away the key."
     
  3. Alexia

    Alexia Well-Known Member

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    Out of the two Clinton is at least more realistic and has a clue about foreign policy and what you cannot do. One of the issues with those who are not accustomed to the ways of Congress and what really happens on Capitol Hill is that they have great ideas, but they can't be enacted.

    Trump may have advisors, but how qualified are they or is Trump ignoring their advice and going ahead and what he wishes to say? The likelihood of the Mexican wall is remote and here in the UK is considered a joke. Most people seem to want it, but what the people want and what they get are very different.

    The US needs stability in this time where terrorists threaten liberty and stopping Muslims won't stop terrorism if they are legal and born US citizens.
     
  4. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Stability has earned us the problems we now have. 70% say we are heading in the wrong direction. Ignore the people at your own risk.
     
  5. LittleAnna

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    I can't help it, I really like Donald Trump. I think he has more potential to do very good things for everybody, as opposed to Hilary Clinton. With all of these leaks, and how Wasserman-Shultz was in Clinton's back pocket the whole time, I can't see how anybody could vote for Clinton. I feel so sad for Bernie supporters. Bernie Sanders is a pure spirit, doing things for the right reasons, and is too innocent to see Hilary Clinton for what she is. I can't believe he endorsed her.
     
  6. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    And Trump said the RNC had rigged the Republican process. In between trashing all of his candidates, and their families.

    You are supporting a man who proved himself to be a coward during the Vietnam conflict, and then lied about it. On who not only has cheated on his wives, but his business partners. Obviously has something to hide or he would release his tax returns as everyone else has, and he has promised he would. Has ignored the Constitution by wanting to change libel laws, and threatening to sue the press anytime they post a negative article about him. And now has solicited the aide of a foreign country in an attempt to get that country to violate American law, and the Constitution, for his own benefit.

    2Timothy 4: 3,4

    "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
     
  7. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome Anna.
    I can't understand how anyone could support her either.
     
  8. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Just as a true American patriot cannot understand how one, especially one who calls themselves a Christian, can support one who is a liar, and adulterer, a coward, one who supports Planned parenthood, LGBT rights, who wants to kill all terrorists, and their families, who knows nothing about the Bible, or Christ, yet calls himself a "christian", and the list goes on. There is nothing decent, moral, or of a patriotic nature about Trump.
     
  9. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    There is no establishment of religion here. It is incumbent for a president as CIC to defend the nation as well as the constitution. It's not ok for one to put our foreign service secrets on wide open computers.
    But I get you are more concer nb ed with homosexuals and that's fine.
     
  10. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    I love the ignorance some people demonstrate, and you are one of the most save for maybe your buddy PR. Out of all the things i said you had to pick the one about homosexuals. Coming out of the closet are we?

    In your little limited world of intellect you believe that Trump did not claim to be a "christian", and, of course, he is an "expert" on scripture. He had no mistresses. He did not threaten to sue news groups that posted negative articles about him. He was a "war hero" in Vietnam. Why, if he were to shit on your face you would swallow with glee.

    And if that is all you have against Hillary, well, you wait, and if the misogynistic, narcissistic, asshole you want as President gets the job done, I hop you have no relatives you care about since if they are of military age they will likely fight the cowards war.
     
  11. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not my fault your attempted gotcha was a non starter. Sure I could have picked any of your pointless remarks so why not go with what would annoy you most ?
    Since you have stated you don't vote I can't imagine why you care.
    I care about having someone so careless about Intel and who surrounds herself with equally careless people. Who has accomplished nothing more than bringing foreign money by the truckload into her political coffers.
     
  12. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Drugs again, or is it just the alcohol? Where did I say I don't vote? I do believe I have made it quite clear I do not vote for Republicans, Democrats, liars, and cowards.

    And trump has made millions off screwing anyone he has been in business with. Even the Saudi's bailed him out of bankruptcy twice, not just once, twice.

    Then too, you can't even prove Clinton has received any moneys for her campaign coffers. That would be illegal, and I am sure that the Repugnant Party would be raising hell over that.
     
  13. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Then clearly you do not vote?


    Yes, it's illegal and they have been complaining but the administration ignores it for political reasons
     
  14. Old_Trapper70

    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    In the mind of idiots I guess so. In the minds of the Founding Fathers like Washington, I do. Try reading Washingtons Farewell Address.

    Surely you can find some proof of that, right? No, you can't because it is just more right wing *********. The "bundler" that received illegal funds was prosecuted. However, that was in 2007.
     
  15. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Washington huh... I guess you are REALLY old.
    May want to look past huffpo for current events. The Clinton foundation is being investigated.
     
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