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6 dead, 12 injured in shooting at Arizona political meeting

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  1. Rick New Member

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    Again, total historical cluelessness from you - you're like the Old Faithful geyser - emits a leftwing agitprop-for-idiots at regular intervals. :p

    In fact, people who have studied the issue know that "progressivism" is firmly rooted in the fascism of the 1920s and 1930s, and that today, with their agenda of crushing democracy and creating a superstate where decisions are made by unelected bureacrats and judges who follow the mandates of a "Great Leader" (who might that be? :D) they are in many respects like two peas in a pod with their counterparts of the early 20th century.

    As for you, it always ends up with the same advice - go read up on some history - LOTS of it. :rolleyes:
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    And you asked me to be nice.:rolleyes:


    Nazism was a nationalistic philosophy and by far the american right has the corner market on nationalism.
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    Would you recognize satire if it jumped up and bit your face? :D


    Ony one of the characteristics of nazism, and agreed, certainly not something the america-hating leftwing could be accused of.
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    1) Seriously you cant put a satirical tone on things over the internet.

    2) Then why did you accuse them?
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    Repeat: Only one of the characteristics of nazism
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    Now they should be accused? I think someone needs to make up their own mind before trying to convince others.
  7. PLC1 Super Moderator

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    Actually, she got a C from the NRA

    So, what else do you have wrong? That was just the first thing I checked.. Oh wait! Here's a lefty law she sponsored:

    Since the arch righty, Ronald Reagan, was in favor of arming Iran, it follows that any bill to stop arming Iran must be an extreme left wing bill, correct?
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    Incorrect. Unless you checked with him recently. Times do change.
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    Nazi Party - The National Socialist German Workers' Party.
    Doesnt seem so rightwing to me.Just a tad more extreem than that which Obama would have for us.
  10. Rick New Member

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    Now, everyone go look at this NRA rating page:

    http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4229

    It's just as I said - she got a D+ from the NRA. Incidentally, she got a D minus from the Gun Owners of America. :D




    Anatomy of a typical leftwing anti-Reagan smear: In the 1980s, Reagan approved a plan to send some weapons to Iran in order to get the release of six american hostages held by islamofascists. In the leftwing smear above, it's portrayed simply that Reagan wanted to arm iran. For a leftwinger, lying and distorting is akin to what breathing is for normal people.
  11. pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Yes back then Iran launching terror attacks on us, kidnapping our people, and had just held our Embassy hostage with tis people for a very lengthy time..

    that was the 80s...what time was Regan in ?
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    Democratic People's Republic of Korea .....

    North Korea is a Democracy by your standards now.
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    They do, but have they? Iran was and still is an enemy of the United States. Reagan approved the sale of arms to the enemy (Iran) in order to fund the Contra war in El Salvador. Therefore, he must have been in favor of arming Iran.

    Now, that was, of course as you must know, satire. Do you really believe that the bill I linked to, which was BTW, the first one that came up on the search for legislation she has sponsored, was a left wing bill?
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    ...At least according to the American Leftwing. :rolleyes:
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    There is no doubt in my mind as to the guilt of Loughner. Many years from now, I expect he will be found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. This does not meet the needs of his victims or society. He is a disease, and as such needs to die.

    We don’t pity animals with rabies by putting them in cages to live out their lives, neither do we take out cancer from the body and place it in a culture medium to continue its existence. A grizzly or lion that has tasted human flesh is tracked down and killed, not placed in a zoo. This individual should be treated no different. He has forfeited his life when he took those of others. I don’t advocate violence against him, I demand his elimination. There is a distinct, lawful difference.

    A swift trial and a swift execution is the right and proper response to such an obvious case. There is no good to be had or great lesson to be learned from spending years and hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on this mass murder. No profit will be gained in giving him undue voice or being subjected to his protracted time on this earth. The media will remind us of this perversion as long as he draws breath. In no way are the victims or society well served under this scenario.

    Some are seeking to advance political or social agendas on the backs of those who suffered at the hands of this abomination. They play upon raw emotions. I find this deplorable. Anyone who would use such tactics should continue to be exposed and publicly admonished. I know I will. If there is sickness in our society, surely it will be found in those who would exploit the loss and anguish of others for their gain.

    We must remember, or come to understand, the only person responsible, accountable and culpable for this unforgivable, violent, heinous act is the perpetrator himself and as such, must pay the ultimate price. I place the blame where the blame belongs and call for a just, quick sentence. I hope you will too.

    regards
    Doug
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    Can't really argue with any of the feelings expressed above, except that it does cost more to execute someone than it does to keep them in a cell until they die of natural causes.
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    that was Carter, they freed the hostages when Reagan came into office.
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    yes. it's point is to limit profits from a dirty industry.
    did Reagan care for Iraq less than Iran ? sure. you dont get to set all the ground rules when countering the USSR.
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    keep being ignorant...Iran Contra....ever hear of it...was to release hostages...held by...wait for it....Iran...

    Iran helped back many terrorist attacks...in the 80s...against US targets...do those not count now?

    Also so if they take over our embassy in Iran for over a year...the day they let them out...all those same leaders who held them...are not our enemy right?

    Its sad that some on the right stoop so low as to act like Iran has not been our Enemy since the Revolution...Just because they have to save Saint Regan.
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    So what we SHOULD have done is just let the six american hostages rot in islamofascist prisons, huh? Yaaa - THAT would've REALLY shown those iranians! :D :rolleyes:

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