6 dead, 12 injured in shooting at Arizona political meeting

[PLC1]

There is no doubt in my mind as to the guilt of Loughner. Many years from now, I expect he will be found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. This does not meet the needs of his victims or society. He is a disease, and as such needs to die.

We don’t pity animals with rabies by putting them in cages to live out their lives, neither do we take out cancer from the body and place it in a culture medium to continue its existence. A grizzly or lion that has tasted human flesh is tracked down and killed, not placed in a zoo. This individual should be treated no different. He has forfeited his life when he took those of others. I don’t advocate violence against him, I demand his elimination. There is a distinct, lawful difference.

A swift trial and a swift execution is the right and proper response to such an obvious case. There is no good to be had or great lesson to be learned from spending years and hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on this mass murder. No profit will be gained in giving him undue voice or being subjected to his protracted time on this earth. The media will remind us of this perversion as long as he draws breath. In no way are the victims or society well served under this scenario.

Some are seeking to advance political or social agendas on the backs of those who suffered at the hands of this abomination. They play upon raw emotions. I find this deplorable. Anyone who would use such tactics should continue to be exposed and publicly admonished. I know I will. If there is sickness in our society, surely it will be found in those who would exploit the loss and anguish of others for their gain.

We must remember, or come to understand, the only person responsible, accountable and culpable for this unforgivable, violent, heinous act is the perpetrator himself and as such, must pay the ultimate price. I place the blame where the blame belongs and call for a just, quick sentence. I hope you will too.

regards
Doug

Can't really argue with any of the feelings expressed above, except that it does cost more to execute someone than it does to keep them in a cell until they die of natural causes.

 

[dogtowner]

Yes back then Iran launching terror attacks on us, kidnapping our people, and had just held our Embassy hostage with tis people for a very lengthy time..

that was the 80s...what time was Regan in ?

that was Carter, they freed the hostages when Reagan came into office.

 

[dogtowner]

They do, but have they? Iran was and still is an enemy of the United States. Reagan approved the sale of arms to the enemy (Iran) in order to fund the Contra war in El Salvador. Therefore, he must have been in favor of arming Iran.

Now, that was, of course as you must know, satire. Do you really believe that the bill I linked to, which was BTW, the first one that came up on the search for legislation she has sponsored, was a left wing bill?

yes. it's point is to limit profits from a dirty industry.
did Reagan care for Iraq less than Iran ? sure. you dont get to set all the ground rules when countering the USSR.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

that was Carter, they freed the hostages when Reagan came into office.

keep being ignorant...Iran Contra....ever hear of it...was to release hostages...held by...wait for it....Iran...

Iran helped back many terrorist attacks...in the 80s...against US targets...do those not count now?

Also so if they take over our embassy in Iran for over a year...the day they let them out...all those same leaders who held them...are not our enemy right?

Its sad that some on the right stoop so low as to act like Iran has not been our Enemy since the Revolution...Just because they have to save Saint Regan.

 

[Rick]

keep being ignorant...Iran Contra....ever hear of it...was to release hostages...held by...wait for it....Iran...

So what we SHOULD have done is just let the six american hostages rot in islamofascist prisons, huh? Yaaa - THAT would've REALLY shown those iranians!

 

[PLC1]

yes. it's point is to limit profits from a dirty industry.

So, you do support the sale of arms to Iran?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

So what we SHOULD have done is just let the six american hostages rot in islamofascist prisons, huh? Yaaa - THAT would've REALLY shown those iranians!

the hard core Republican Right...if someone takes hostages...give them more guns!

what happen to WE do not negotiate with Terrorist?

How about...Send in Delta and hope to get them...and bomb the hell out of them and say sorry we don't deal.?

must suck to know for all your talk...the commie pink liberal here takes a hard line, while you bend over for the terrorist....

 

[Rick]

the hard core Republican Right...if someone takes hostages...give them more guns!

Actually, the "guns" were missiles which wouldn't work for the purpose the iranians wanted them, and the deal in any case fell through.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Actually, the "guns" were missiles which wouldn't work for the purpose the iranians wanted them, and the deal in any case fell through.

I see, so since it was missles for hostages...its ok to deal with terrorist...and if the deal falls threw...it was ok to do?

why don't you just say it, you love Regan and thats all you have.

How many times does Iran have to attack and kill American citizens, military men, and take hostages...for you say you know what? they are the enemy? And maybe we should not send them missiles of any type? ever?

 

[Rick]

I see, so since it was missles for hostages...its ok to deal with terrorist...and if the deal falls threw...it was ok to do?

why don't you just say it, you love Regan and thats all you have.

How many times does Iran have to attack and kill American citizens, military men, and take hostages...for you say you know what? they are the enemy? And maybe we should not send them missiles of any type? ever?

Wow - a leftwinger as reincarnation of George Patton!

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Wow - a leftwinger as reincarnation of George Patton!

thats right a lefty who is takes a hard stand on Iran and Terrorist...and a right wing hack who bows down to them , supports arming them, and ignores there attacks on our people....because to not ignore them is to say that Regan failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AnschalgInZahran1996_KhobarTower.jpg

http://faculty.umf.maine.edu/walter.sargent/public.www/web 104/80s beirut.jpg

Both linked to Iran

but don't worry we where not at war, so sell them arms to release hostages ( and ignore that they are taking hostages I guess)

 

[Rick]

thats right a lefty who is takes a hard stand on Iran and Terrorist...and a right wing hack who bows down to them , supports arming them,

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight - attempting to trade useless missiles for american hostages is "bowing down to them", "supporting arming them". You got to the mental masturbation stage quickly this time.

 

[PLC1]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight - attempting to trade useless missiles for american hostages is "bowing down to them", "supporting arming them". You got to the mental masturbation stage quickly this time.

That is just absurd. Arms were sold to Iran, and the money used to support a war in El Salvador. Those are the facts. You can spin them, ignore them, whatever, but those are the facts.

 

[Rick]

That is just absurd. Arms were sold to Iran, and the money used to support a war in El Salvador. Those are the facts. You can spin them, ignore them, whatever, but those are the facts.

Like most leftwingers, your problems understanding the world start with an ignorance of history. The other libidiot was engaging in typical anti-Reagan rants, which was what I was responding to. The part of the iran arms deal that Reagan knew about and approved was the swap of israeli missiles for US hostages held by islamofascists under the influence of iran.

>>>AFTER<< that deal fell through, National Security Advisor John Poindexter and his aide Oliver North, rogue elements in the whitehouse, carried out the iran-contra deal. I know all this blurs and intermixes in the mind of a typical leftwing dolt.

P.S.: The money was used to fund the Nicaraguan National Democratic Force, which overthrew the marxist sandinista dictatorship beloved of US liberals, and replaced it with a democratic government that exists to this day.

 

[PLC1]

Like most leftwingers, your problems understanding the world start with an ignorance of history. The other libidiot was engaging in typical anti-Reagan rants, which was what I was responding to. The part of the iran arms deal that Reagan knew about and approved was the swap of israeli missiles for US hostages held by islamofascists under the influence of iran.

>>>AFTER<< that deal fell through, National Security Advisor John Poindexter and his aide Oliver North, rogue elements in the whitehouse, carried out the iran-contra deal. I know all this blurs and intermixes in the mind of a typical leftwing dolt.

P.S.: The money was used to fund the Nicaraguan National Democratic Force, which overthrew the marxist sandinista dictatorship beloved of US liberals, and replaced it with a democratic government that exists to this day.

So, you support the Iran Contra affair? It was done by a Republican regime, so that makes it OK?

Under what circumstances would you support Obama selling arms to Iran?