Who will harvest the crops?

Unskilled labor is never going to pay a high wage.
Same argument is being played out here so what are the farmers doing? Mechanising. Getting rid of casual labour altogether as its now cheaper to hire specialist machinery to harvest crops, they work 24 hours a day in all weather. In some cases they don't even need anybody to operate them as they are all automatic and GPS equipped / planting is just as easy. Growers are buy plants "specialised" in being able to be mechanically picked/harvested.
 
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Its a shame that the article doesn't expand in terms of explaining whether farms are just inefficient units and unprofitable due to their inefficiency - if that's the case then I doubt any amount of cheap labour will solve the problem. It seems that cheap labour/lack of cheap labour is being used as a political excuse for other more complex, fundemental and possibly more relevent systemic failures within the agriculture sector.
 
Because until now the risk was low relative n to the benefit.
If additional legal migrants are needed then dial up the number of visas.

So. . .why isn't the option of "dialing up the number of visas" being considered PRIOR to wrecking the agriculture of the border states?

Once again, Trump is putting the carriage before the horses, and creating chaos and hardship for many!
 
Same argument is being played out here so what are the farmers doing? Mechanising. Getting rid of casual labour altogether as its now cheaper to hire specialist machinery to harvest crops, they work 24 hours a day in all weather. In some cases they don't even need anybody to operate them as they are all automatic and GPS equipped / planting is just as easy. Growers are buy plants "specialised" in being able to be mechanically picked/harvested.
Many crops are harvested mechanically but not all. Mainly just too fragile or dependant on judging ripeness.

Planting is far easier.
 
Its a shame that the article doesn't expand in terms of explaining whether farms are just inefficient units and unprofitable due to their inefficiency - if that's the case then I doubt any amount of cheap labour will solve the problem. It seems that cheap labour/lack of cheap labour is being used as a political excuse for other more complex, fundemental and possibly more relevent systemic failures within the agriculture sector.
The issue is domestic vs imported. Domestic can never be price competitive against the 3rd world. This is why farmers choose illegals as they will work cheaper than legal aliens.
 
Mainly just too fragile or dependant on judging ripeness.
I'm no farmer but we have strawberry "fields" not sure what you call them now - these hideous polytunnels - anyway they have automated "pickers" running up and down the lines. Same with blackcurrents massive fields with just machines shaking the base of the bushes and the fruit falls into the collecting bin things. Not a sole in sight!
 
I'm no farmer but we have strawberry "fields" not sure what you call them now - these hideous polytunnels - anyway they have automated "pickers" running up and down the lines. Same with blackcurrents massive fields with just machines shacking the base bushes and the fruit falls into the collecting bin things. Not a sole in sight!
Strawberries hand picked here. We grow a fair amount in my area as the weather suits it. I'm sure they could be machine picked but I wouldn't want them. They're only good if vine ripened. Pineapples are the same though we don't grow those around here. Dad brought some back from Hawaii years ago and I couldn't believe it was the same fruit.
 
I'm no farmer but we have strawberry "fields" not sure what you call them now - these hideous polytunnels - anyway they have automated "pickers" running up and down the lines. Same with blackcurrents massive fields with just machines shaking the base of the bushes and the fruit falls into the collecting bin things. Not a sole in sight!


I wonder how that can be since mechanization cannot tell a ripe strawberry from an unripe one, and not all strawberries ripen at the same time (Even the Japanese "picker" picks the strawberries that are 80% "red"). Currants are a bit different in that they will largely ripen at the same time. The "shaker" method works good for nuts too. Can't use it for other fruits on trees since hitting the ground would bruise them making them unmarketable save for pies, sauce, etc.
 
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