Who Shouldnt Have Guns?

[dahermit]

A gun is made for only one purpose -- to kill another.

numinus, what feature on this gun indicates that it is designed for the purpose of killing people? The lack of a safety? The excessive weight(30lbs.)? The fact that it can only be fired from atop a bench? The feature where the entire bolt must be removed to insert a cartridge. The feature where there is no magazine, and is a single shot? The lack of portability?


Or, would you say that it is designed for bench rest competition and, with some extra effort could be used to shoot at a human target? Hmmmmm?

 

[Jeugenen]

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS

It is not primarily for their collecting; nor primarily for their hunting; nor even primarily for their self-defense against violent criminals; it is primarily for well regulated militias in every state; ready, when faced with intolerable governmental tyranny, for explosive bloody revolt to preserve their Liberty.

Just as every sensible American child should grow up knowing exactly how to safely use the automobile for transportation; so too every sensible American child should grow up knowing exactly how to safely use the gun for revolution.

Every well informed American knows that the Right to Bear Arms is a sacred integral part of the American system of Constitutional government, by the People and for the People, in which their executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government are subordinate to the supreme democratic majority will of the People.

Every sensible American governmental official has a very healthy fear of this inherent revolutionary power of the American People.

Every American governmental official knows that any action subversive to the Constitutional Rights of the American People is an act of tyranny.

 

[Pidgey]

Yes, I have, I suspect that basement is very dark and lonely. The fact that he keeps posting lust-soaked notes to me despite my polite rejections says a great deal about his life.

Well, Mare... yeah, I think you need to watch it with Numin--I got it directly from him:

Just because I'm generally patient with the absurdities of women doesn't mean you can push your luck.

Due to intensive research that I've been doing, I haven't had much time to get back to this forum so I haven't yet taken the time to tell Numin that I'm really a 6'-1", 220 lb. monster and male besides. But, them's the breaks... we just can't depend on Numin to pick up on obvious clues. Take care of yourself around the boy.

Pidgey

 

[numinus]

No one said: No Food. What was said was: "Very expensive food."
"Freezer" in many remote areas of Alaska consists of a wooden structure where in meat is stored after Winter has begun. Any U.S. citizen would know that. In many instances in remote Alaska, "electricity" is provided by a generator which is run periodically. Any U.S. citizen would know that.

You are talking of 'remote' areas called bush communities. Tell me, are internet connections available in these communities -- something that would suggest that bunz, is in fact, a subsistence hunter, hmmm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska#Climate

The 2005 gross state product was $39.9 billion. Its per-capita GSP for 2005 was $60,079, 3rd in the nation. Alaska's economy relies heavily on petroleum extraction, with more than 80% of the state's revenues derived from this industry. Alaska's main export product (excluding oil and natural gas) is seafood, primarily salmon, cod, Pollock and crab. Agriculture represents only a fraction of the Alaskan economy. Agricultural production is primarily for consumption within the state and includes nursery stock, dairy products, vegetables, and livestock. Manufacturing is limited, with most foodstuffs and general goods imported from elsewhere. Employment is primarily in government and industries such as natural resource extraction, shipping, and transportation. Military bases are a significant component of the economy in both Fairbanks and Anchorage. Its industrial outputs are crude petroleum, natural gas, coal, gold, precious metals, zinc and other mining, seafood processing, timber and wood products. There is also a growing service and tourism sector. Tourists have contributed to the economy by supporting local lodging.

Is anything in there that would suggest that MOST alaskans are subsistence hunters, hmmm?

Any american citizen should know that. So, it would seem that either you are an ignorant american or a simply dishonest american.

Tell that to the people who live withing a few hundred miles of the Arctic circle all the way around the world. Alaskans, Canadians, Aleuts, Lapps, Finns, etc.

And how many of the 700,000 total population of alsaka would that be, hmmm?

The situation of this minority bush communities, you are using as justification for gun ownership for the rest of the 300 million americans?

Your dishonesty is plain for everyone to see, one need not be an american.

 

[numinus]

And you prove it here on almost a daily basis.

This is one of the few posts that you are correct.

 

[numinus]

Mare, have you considered that numinus spends so much time posting here that likely we are the closest thing he has to friends. It is likely he looks forward to this interaction.

Not at all.

I relish the opportunity of exposing the bigot that you are.

 

[numinus]

Dispelling more ignorant bull poop.

The reason five shots are used to zero a hunting rifle has nothing to do with standard deviation. The number five for zeroing is based on two things. Firstly, the heat generated by firing heats the sporter weight barrel will induce a change in zero if more than five shots are fired without letting the barrel cool. Secondly, even though three shots would be a reasonable number of shots to simulate shooting a game, three shots could randomly strike to the same point of impact giving the impression that that group was inherently typical of that rifle's accuracy and placement on the target. Firing ten shots would produce a better indication of the rifle's zero and accuracy due to less chance of a random group placement. But ten shots are deemed by knowledgeable shooters as less practical.

Note that in some rifle competitions, including Bench Rest competition, in the heavy and unlimited classes, there is a 200 yard/ten shot group fired, enabled by the heavy barrels and time to cool between shots.

What is that if not related to standard deviation, hmmm?

Good god. Exposing your ignorance is becoming a habit.

 

[numinus]

I can read the lust you lay between the lines of each one of your posts.

You just made me puke in my mouth.

 

[numinus]

Yes, I have, I suspect that basement is very dark and lonely. The fact that he keeps posting lust-soaked notes to me despite my polite rejections says a great deal about his life.

Yeah right.

A sewed-on vagina is more fulfilling than a real one.

 

[numinus]

numinus, what feature on this gun indicates that it is designed for the purpose of killing people? The lack of a safety? The excessive weight(30lbs.)? The fact that it can only be fired from atop a bench? The feature where the entire bolt must be removed to insert a cartridge. The feature where there is no magazine, and is a single shot? The lack of portability?


Or, would you say that it is designed for bench rest competition and, with some extra effort could be used to shoot at a human target? Hmmmmm?

Duhermit,

Does that weapon constitute the proliferation of firearms discussed in the department of justice statistics, hmmmm?

Or is that not the exception I mentioned, together with glue guns and stapler guns, eh?

At least you are consistent. Consistently dishonest, that is.

 

[numinus]

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS

It is not primarily for their collecting; nor primarily for their hunting; nor even primarily for their self-defense against violent criminals; it is primarily for well regulated militias in every state;

As opposed to a well-regulated armed forces, one would imagine. The most powerful armed forces in the world, at that.

ready, when faced with intolerable governmental tyranny, for explosive bloody revolt to preserve their Liberty.

Just as every sensible American child should grow up knowing exactly how to safely use the automobile for transportation; so too every sensible American child should grow up knowing exactly how to safely use the gun for revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_militia_movement

The modern constitutional militia movement, the constitutionalist wing of the "militia movement" in the United States, became active in the mid 1990s in response to outrage about the violent confrontation at Ruby Ridge, the Waco Siege and gun control legislation. The movement is composed largely of veterans, libertarians, and Second Amendment advocates who share a common motivation of anger at federal government actions and also a set of ideals associated with the values of the militia they see embodied in the Constitution.

So, let me get this straight.

You want gun ownership so that you are prepared to conduct a revolution when the government tries to control the proliferation of guns.

Is there anything less circular than that?

Every well informed American knows that the Right to Bear Arms is a sacred integral part of the American system of Constitutional government, by the People and for the People, in which their executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government are subordinate to the supreme democratic majority will of the People.

Every sensible American governmental official has a very healthy fear of this inherent revolutionary power of the American People.

Every American governmental official knows that any action subversive to the Constitutional Rights of the American People is an act of tyranny.

The thing is, you are describing a situation of widespread unrest and violence -- the very state of emergency wherein the president is within his right to CALL ON THE ARMED FORCES against his people.

 

[dahermit]

Duhermit,

Does that weapon constitute the proliferation of firearms discussed in the department of justice statistics, hmmmm?

Or is that not the exception I mentioned, together with glue guns and stapler guns, eh?

At least you are consistent. Consistently dishonest, that is.

So then, you are willing to concede that sporting arms are an exception that you would allow for civilian ownership like glue guns and stapler guns?

 

[numinus]

So then, you are willing to concede that sporting arms are an exception that you would allow for civilian ownership like glue guns and stapler guns?

If they fire only rubber bullets and that possession is restricted in the home or in transit from the home to the firing range -- why not?

Take note that the conditions stated above, in connection with the ones you have already stated preclude any dishonesty from you.

 

[dahermit]

The situation of this minority bush communities, you are using as justification for gun ownership for the rest of the 300 million americans?

Where exactly did I say that? The situation with Bunz is based on your insistence that he did not need a gun for hunting and that he used insidious scoring rings to sight in his scope.
The justification for the rest of the 300 million Americans to own guns is that they do not need justification, especially from a third-world foreign national...the right to keep and bear arms is listed in the (our) Bill of Rights. Note that there are three entities mentioned in the rest of constitution: The Federal Government, the State, and the People. Also, the rights listed in the Bill of Rights refers to the rights of the People, not State or Militia. The People in the second Amendment means just what it says...the People have that right. The Supreme Court is now in the process of hearing a case that will confirm that.

Now please share with us the Rights that your constitution (from your little third world ****hole) recognizes so we may debate the flaws in your system.

 

[dahermit]

Duhermit,

Does that weapon constitute the proliferation of firearms discussed in the department of justice statistics, hmmmm?

As a fire arm (does not shoot rubber bullets), it would likely be included in the statistics. However, show me ANY instance where a Unlimited Class Bench Rest Rifle has ever been used in any crime or, used to shoot a person.

Or is that not the exception I mentioned, together with glue guns and stapler guns, eh?

You suggest that it would be an exception, but then change your mind and state it must only fire rubber bullets. Consistancy does not seem to be your strong suit. You dodge questions and have a selective memory.