Who Shouldnt Have Guns?

[numinus]

To suggest that Bunz shoots at human targets is a" false and ignorant" and therefore, not an insult.

Inasmuch as it is common for people who live in Alaska to big game hunt for subsistence (a moose may weigh a 1,000 lbs.), even though it is a once a year event, it is not patent dishonesty to say that it is a necessity.

Use your common sense for once.

The fact that it is once-a-year suggests that it is not necessary for bunz and his family's DAILY sustenance. I would surmise that he gets his food the rest of the year from the same source the rest of us does -- the supermarket.

And do you know of ANY PLACE in the world where there is internet connection and NO FOOD???

And, to suggest that it is, is an insult.

It is plain dishonest. He makes it appear that it is NECESSARY -- that he and his family would perish if he did not have a gun.

Lastly, I was being facetious, you are a rude and insufferable. Note that I received training by the Army as a psychiatric technician which included hours of instruction in psychology including abnormal psychology, and I recognize you as the socially maladjusted person you are. As to why, I can only guess...Do you feel that Americans have done you some harm?

The americans I have met are good people who give considerable value to their SPOKEN WORD. Unlike you, who offers an 'olive branch' in one breath and calls me a monkey (upon learning that I am not american) in another.

What does your training in psychology say about that sort, hmmm?

By the way, scoring rings on a target are for the purpose of determining who wins the competition. There is nothing insidious about the rings and have no relevance to shooting of people as you have previously and foolishly implied.

And what does your training in psychology say about the relative worth of sports on one hand, and the necessities of keeping peace and order in society on another, eh?

 

[numinus]

Facts and logic in caps must mean personal childish insults. Whenever you stoop to that level, you've lost the argument. Sorry, Nummi, but it's checkmate again.

Uhm, no.

Facts and logic means facts and logic -- not personal childish insult.

Checkmate indeed!

I can't believe your argument went from slaves to drugs.

Prohibiting slavery and drugs are imperatives to the maintenance of civil society. What part of that point can't you believe, hmmm?

We all know just how successful outlawing drugs has been. It's about as successful as outlawing guns would be.

Do you outlaw something because you would be successful at it or because it serves a purpose for the common good?

Duh?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Unlike you, who can't seem to recognize facts and logic if it sat on your face and defecated.

That was definitely meant to be an insult.

What duhermit was soliciting is an UNJUSTIFIED INSULT. In your case, every single one was justified.

Where the foam comes from around your mouth becomes more and more clear, Nums. You are one nasty guy!

 

[PLC1]

Uhm, no.

Facts and logic means facts and logic -- not personal childish insult.

Checkmate indeed!

Yes, childish insults, whether or not you consider them to be "justified", and yes, stooping to that level automatically means you have lost the discussion.

Checkmate.

Prohibiting slavery and drugs are imperatives to the maintenance of civil society. What part of that point can't you believe, hmmm?

Holland seems to be quite civilized, and has a lower rate of drug addiction than the US.

Do you outlaw something because you would be successful at it or because it serves a purpose for the common good?

What good does it do to outlaw something if the law can't be enforced?

Duh?

Yet another childish insult. How old did you claim to be again?

 

[dahermit]

Use your common sense for once.

The fact that it is once-a-year suggests that it is not necessary for bunz and his family's DAILY sustenance. I would surmise that he gets his food the rest of the year from the same source the rest of us does -- the supermarket.

The 1,000 lbs. of moose meat goes in the freezer to be used all year. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE HUNTED DAILY.

And do you know of ANY PLACE in the world where there is internet connection and NO FOOD???

If you had ever been to Alaska, you would know that most food stuff has to be shipped in at great cost because of the short growing season...ask Bunz about the cost of food in Alaska; a gallon of milk, a lb. of tomatoes, a loaf of bread. Also, many live in a remote areas that require everything be flown in by "Bush Pilots".

It is plain dishonest. He makes it appear that it is NECESSARY -- that he and his family would perish if he did not have a gun.

A luxury in the lower 48 becomes a necessity if one is to live in the similar level of affluence in the remote parts of Alaska...of course a U.S. citizen would know that. By choosing to live in Alaska and hunting for his meat is called: Freedom and the Pursuit of Happyness...of course a U.S. citizen would know that.

The americans I have met are good people who give considerable value to their SPOKEN WORD. Unlike you, who offers an 'olive branch' in one breath and calls me a monkey (upon learning that I am not american) in another. What does your training in psychology say about that sort, hmmm?

What do you think it means?

And what does your training in psychology say about the relative worth of sports on one hand, and the necessities of keeping peace and order in society on another, eh?

What significance do you place on sports as to keeping peace and order?

 

[numinus]

Where the foam comes from around your mouth becomes more and more clear, Nums. You are one nasty guy!

What is it with your pre-occupation with foam -- quantum or otherwise?

I am well-rounded and amiable.

The problem with your sort is that you pick on 'religious folks' on a regular basis thinking that they are easy targets in debate. When someone comes along and demonstrates your complete ignorance on the subjects you claim competence on, you cry 'foul' to high-heaven and start calling names.

Quite frankly, the thought of foam and you is starting to make my skin crawl. Further reference to it is unnecesssary cruelty.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

What is it with your pre-occupation with foam -- quantum or otherwise?

I am well-rounded and amiable.

The problem with your sort is that you pick on 'religious folks' on a regular basis thinking that they are easy targets in debate. When someone comes along and demonstrates your complete ignorance on the subjects you claim competence on, you cry 'foul' to high-heaven and start calling names.

Quite frankly, the thought of foam and you is starting to make my skin crawl. Further reference to it is unnecesssary cruelty.

Enough with the love-talk, I'm a married woman, Nums, and there is no way I'm breaking my vows for you, sorry. Just wipe the foam off your mouth and walk away like a gentleman.

 

[numinus]

The 1,000 lbs. of moose meat goes in the freezer to be used all year. HE NEVER SAID THAT HE HUNTED DAILY.

If you had ever been to Alaska, you would know that most food stuff has to be shipped in at great cost because of the short growing season...ask Bunz about the cost of food in Alaska; a gallon of milk, a lb. of tomatoes, a loaf of bread. Also, many live in a remote areas that require everything be flown in by "Bush Pilots".


A luxury in the lower 48 becomes a necessity if one is to live in the similar level of affluence in the remote parts of Alaska...of course a U.S. citizen would know that. By choosing to live in Alaska and hunting for his meat is called: Freedom and the Pursuit of Happyness...of course a U.S. citizen would know that.

You are truly taking dishonesty to a whole new and absurd level.

You have electricity, internet connection, household appliances, groceries, etc., not to mention the support needed to maintain these -- but NO FOOD. You're ignorant of the fact that hunter-gatherer existence is TOTALLY AT ODDS with modern sedentary life -- or simply, civil society.

Ignoring it would not make it go away -- nor will it lend any credibility to what you are posting, however long and insulting you make it to be.

Freezer, indeed!

What do you think it means?

What significance do you place on sports as to keeping peace and order?

I'm not the one claiming competence in psychology, am I. That on top of -- what was that again -- bachelor of science in technical something, auto mechanics and tire replacement or some such nonsense?

 

[numinus]

Enough with the love-talk, I'm a married woman, Nums, and there is no way I'm breaking my vows for you, sorry. Just wipe the foam off your mouth and walk away like a gentleman.

Was there anything I said that suggests to you to break whatever vow you have made? Really! That dark place you call your imagination is creepy.

 

[dahermit]

You are truly taking dishonesty to a whole new and absurd level.

You have electricity, internet connection, household appliances, groceries, etc., not to mention the support needed to maintain these -- but NO FOOD. You're ignorant of the fact that hunter-gatherer existence is TOTALLY AT ODDS with modern sedentary life -- or simply, civil society.

Ignoring it would not make it go away -- nor will it lend any credibility to what you are posting, however long and insulting you make it to be.

Freezer, indeed!
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No one said: No Food. What was said was: "Very expensive food."
"Freezer" in many remote areas of Alaska consists of a wooden structure where in meat is stored after Winter has begun. Any U.S. citizen would know that. In many instances in remote Alaska, "electricity" is provided by a generator which is run periodically. Any U.S. citizen would know that.


"You're ignorant of the fact that hunter-gatherer existence is TOTALLY AT ODDS with modern sedentary life -- or simply, civil society." What do you not understand about "supplementing" a food supply"

Tell that to the people who live withing a few hundred miles of the Arctic circle all the way around the world. Alaskans, Canadians, Aleuts, Lapps, Finns, etc.

 

[dahermit]

I am well-rounded and amiable.

And you prove it here on almost a daily basis.

 

[dahermit]

Where the foam comes from around your mouth becomes more and more clear, Nums. You are one nasty guy!

Mare, have you considered that numinus spends so much time posting here that likely we are the closest thing he has to friends. It is likely he looks forward to this interaction.

 

[dahermit]

And do you even know why you need 5 shots? I'll give you a hint -- it has something to do with standard deviations.

Dispelling more ignorant bull poop.

The reason five shots are used to zero a hunting rifle has nothing to do with standard deviation. The number five for zeroing is based on two things. Firstly, the heat generated by firing heats the sporter weight barrel will induce a change in zero if more than five shots are fired without letting the barrel cool. Secondly, even though three shots would be a reasonable number of shots to simulate shooting a game, three shots could randomly strike to the same point of impact giving the impression that that group was inherently typical of that rifle's accuracy and placement on the target. Firing ten shots would produce a better indication of the rifle's zero and accuracy due to less chance of a random group placement. But ten shots are deemed by knowledgeable shooters as less practical.

Note that in some rifle competitions, including Bench Rest competition, in the heavy and unlimited classes, there is a 200 yard/ten shot group fired, enabled by the heavy barrels and time to cool between shots.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Was there anything I said that suggests to you to break whatever vow you have made? Really! That dark place you call your imagination is creepy.

I can read the lust you lay between the lines of each one of your posts.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Mare, have you considered that numinus spends so much time posting here that likely we are the closest thing he has to friends. It is likely he looks forward to this interaction.

Yes, I have, I suspect that basement is very dark and lonely. The fact that he keeps posting lust-soaked notes to me despite my polite rejections says a great deal about his life.