Who Shouldnt Have Guns?

[revolution4PAUL]

You need to get your education from somewhere credible.

You didn't actually believe that the principle of self-defense necessarily means lethal force, now, did you? Or did you think that everyone will take your word for it that you killed someone in self-defense?

What idiotic nonsense!

I'm going to try to be polite and treat you like a normal human being.


Ok, so if that source is not credible info than tell me whats false in the video? You don't believe your smart or something do you? Go watch the movie and maybe you could learn something.



"You didn't actually believe that the principle of self-defense necessarily means lethal force, now, did you? Or did you think that everyone will take your word for it that you killed someone in self-defense?"


What the heck are you talking about? Look I'm not advocating violence in any way buddy. I'm advocating our constitutional rights, get your facts straight dude. Law abiding citizens have a right to own firearms for hunting, self defense, collection, target practice, or for any other legal ambition.


RON PAUL- Learn about him and spread the truth!

 

[numinus]

I'm going to try to be polite and treat you like a normal human being.

Do you normally call someone stupid then pretend to be polite in the same breath?

Ok, so if that source is not credible info than tell me whats false in the video? You don't believe your smart or something do you? Go watch the movie and maybe you could learn something.

I don't usually get my education from movies. It certainly says alot about you.

What the heck are you talking about? Look I'm not advocating violence in any way buddy. I'm advocating our constitutional rights, get your facts straight dude. Law abiding citizens have a right to own firearms for hunting, self defense, collection, target practice, or for any other legal ambition.

RON PAUL- Learn about him and spread the truth!

And what 'constitutional right' is it you are talking about, eh?

You do not have a constitutional right to something that represents a clear danger to society. How many more times need I say this before you give yourself leave to understand, hmmm?

What you are suggesting is a state of affairs wherein it is necessary for each and everyone to own a gun in order to survive and feel secure in his own community. That is simply not acceptable.

Take note that such a condition depicts what john locke calls the 'state of nature' -- a situation wherein everyone's existence is in danger from his environment and his fellow man, hence INTOLERABLE.

The purpose of the social contract is to remove man from the state of nature and place him in civil society, and not the other way around.

 

[bododie]

First off, anyone who is so stupid as to tag their bod with a gang tattoo, because they choose to be the dregs of society, is too stupid and immoral to own a gun or a pencil for that matter.

 

[dahermit]

LOL.

That is quite interesting, coming from a person who hopes to learn the rigors of physics by firing guns.

Huh? Please point out to me where I said that, dipshi..

 

[numinus]

Huh? Please point out to me where I said that, dipshi..

What a dishonest *****!

"One of the factors that interested me in firearms is that unlike many things, it is open ended in that it can be a very simple past time or can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences. The sciences that can be involved in firearms are: mathematics including geometry, calculus, physics, and trigonometry. Also included are chemistry, metallurgy.

For instance, the Coriolis Effect upon projectile dispersion at extended range. Lead Styphenate and Nitrocellulose. Austinetic, Martensetic, and Ferritic stainless steels. The molecular phases of heat treat including Austinite and Martinsite. Cast Bullet alloys that include lead, tin, antimony, and arsenic. Composition of Brass (copper and zinc), and the heat treatment there of. Heat treatment of lead alloy cast bullets. etc., etc."

 

[PLC1]

What a dishonest *****!

"One of the factors that interested me in firearms is that unlike many things, it is open ended in that it can be a very simple past time or can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences. The sciences that can be involved in firearms are: mathematics including geometry, calculus, physics, and trigonometry. Also included are chemistry, metallurgy.

For instance, the Coriolis Effect upon projectile dispersion at extended range. Lead Styphenate and Nitrocellulose. Austinetic, Martensetic, and Ferritic stainless steels. The molecular phases of heat treat including Austinite and Martinsite. Cast Bullet alloys that include lead, tin, antimony, and arsenic. Composition of Brass (copper and zinc), and the heat treatment there of. Heat treatment of lead alloy cast bullets. etc., etc."

Lots of things can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences. Automobiles are a great example.

Most poeple just drive them. Some poeple like cars, some just see them as a means to an end. Few study the scientific principles behind them, nor do they have to in order to drive them safely.

The same is true of guns.

And, of course, there are those who try to make us believe they have a level of education that they do not possess by using scientific jargon.

Not that anyone here would do such a thing, of course.

 

[revolution4PAUL]

Do you normally call someone stupid then pretend to be polite in the same breath?
I wasn't calling you stupid. I was actually referring to your ignorance and lack of 'open mindedness'.


I don't usually get my education from movies. It certainly says alot about you.

Its funny because you still didn't answer my question buddy. I'm still waiting.


And what 'constitutional right' is it you are talking about, eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms."

You do not have a constitutional right to something that represents a clear danger to society. How many more times need I say this before you give yourself leave to understand, hmmm?

What are you talking about?

What you are suggesting is a state of affairs wherein it is necessary for each and everyone to own a gun in order to survive and feel secure in his own community. That is simply not acceptable.

When did I say that? You have been putting words into my mouth ever since I started talking to you. STOP IT!!!

Take note that such a condition depicts what john locke calls the 'state of nature' -- a situation wherein everyone's existence is in danger from his environment and his fellow man, hence INTOLERABLE.

YAWN........ Your making me tired from all your crazy assertions .

The purpose of the social contract is to remove man from the state of nature and place him in civil society, and not the other way around.

What if a man/men wants to state in the 'state of nature'? Not everyone wants to have your life. You can do things your way, and I mine.

I'm done talking to you. I don't know who you think you are but I'm not going to take your shyt. Do you normally assume so many things when a person says so little? If I said I was cold would you presume I lived in Alaska? Don't answer any of these rhetoric questions, I don't want to talk to you- no offense.

 

[dahermit]

Originally Posted by numinus
LOL.

That is quite interesting, coming from a person who hopes to learn the rigors of physics by firing guns.

What a dishonest *****!

"One of the factors that interested me in firearms is that unlike many things, it is open ended in that it can be a very simple past time or can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences. The sciences that can be involved in firearms are: mathematics including geometry, calculus, physics, and trigonometry. Also included are chemistry, metallurgy.

For instance, the Coriolis Effect upon projectile dispersion at extended range. Lead Styphenate and Nitrocellulose. Austinetic, Martensetic, and Ferritic stainless steels. The molecular phases of heat treat including Austinite and Martinsite. Cast Bullet alloys that include lead, tin, antimony, and arsenic. Composition of Brass (copper and zinc), and the heat treatment there of. Heat treatment of lead alloy cast bullets. etc., etc."

One of the factors that interested me in firearms is that unlike many things, it is open ended in that it can be a very simple past time or can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences.

"studied as to its relativity to the sciences..." is not the same as: "...a person who hopes to learn the rigors of physics by firing guns.", is it penis breath. And, I gave examples so there could be no misunderstanding... But, in your social maladjustment, due likely to compensate for an undersized, penis, you choose to misrepresent what I said.

 

[numinus]

Lots of things can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences. Automobiles are a great example.

Most poeple just drive them. Some poeple like cars, some just see them as a means to an end. Few study the scientific principles behind them, nor do they have to in order to drive them safely.

The same is true of guns.

And, of course, there are those who try to make us believe they have a level of education that they do not possess by using scientific jargon.

Not that anyone here would do such a thing, of course.

Correction:

ALL THINGS can be 'studied as to its relativity with science'.

Defecating in the morning also involves science. Nobody in his right mind would consider defecating as an intellectual pursuit, nor will it amount to a degree in biology or the medical sciences.

Which begs the question -- what exactly is duhermit's point, if not to dishonestly portray his freudian infatuation with guns as a form of intellectual pursuit -- and sell silly to rational individuals in the process?

Forgive me but I do not usually indulge the abusrdity of low-brows pretending to be anything they are not.

 

[numinus]

One of the factors that interested me in firearms is that unlike many things, it is open ended in that it can be a very simple past time or can be studied as to its relativity to the sciences.

"studied as to its relativity to the sciences..." is not the same as: "...a person who hopes to learn the rigors of physics by firing guns.", is it penis breath. And, I gave examples so there could be no misunderstanding... But, in your social maladjustment, due likely to compensate for an undersized, penis, you choose to misrepresent what I said.

No sense in dancing around your obvious dishonesty.

Bashing your silly head against the wall involves the action and reaction of forces explainable in physics as well.

Your post is utterly irrelevant and utterly dishonest.

 

[dahermit]

Your post is utterly irrelevant and utterly dishonest.

Let us take a poll of the posters on this particular thread and ask: Which person's posts here are more "...irrelevant and utterly dishonest...", Dahermit's or Numnuts?

 

[dahermit]

I'm going to try to be polite and treat you like a normal human being.

Revolution4Paul, it will rapidly become apparent to you, as it has for most others on this forum, that being polite to Numnuts is a waste of time. Also, it will become apparent that he is not a normal human being. That is why I do not bother to be polite to him or treat him civility.

Do you find it as amusing as I do that he quotes Ron Paul about how we should become a "civilized society", when he has never demonstrated any civility in his many posts that contain the insulting "Duh"s? He is one twisted little brown turd.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

As a drastic simplification, I think the inclusion of the right to bear arms was meant to protect the people from an overreaching government.

Pidgey

Thank god we don't have one of those....

 

[numinus]

Let us take a poll of the posters on this particular thread and ask: Which person's posts here are more "...irrelevant and utterly dishonest...", Dahermit's or Numnuts?

LMAO

Did you hope that if the morons of the world came out in force to agree with you, that would make your argument anything other than irrelevant and dishonest?

What a complete bonehead!

 

[revolution4PAUL]

Numinus, your obviously a very intelligent person because you are so verbose. I'm sure you have heard the saying 'you'll catch more bees with honey than vinegar'. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, in fact its beneficial for people so we can, at least, get another perspective of the object in debate. I'm new to this site, but from the time I have been hear your lack of respect has waned your credibility for me. I mean this in the highest regards and I'm only trying to give helpful criticism and not a malicious personal attack in any way. If I were you, I'd start being nice and civil so you don't become an annoying poster that that people don't give you credibility, or you can start fresh and start a new account with another name. Once again, I'm sure your a nice and intelligent person, so use your knowledge to the best of your advantage- be nice and respect people when trying to get your point across. People don't take personal attacks very well and it puts up unneeded walls, if you know what I mean.


~Peace~