We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith

You mean the suppression of the First Amendment .....

Communist Goals # 27 & 28

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools [and any government entity] on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

If you think that not providing government cheese to Christian charities is "discrediting the Bible" and "infiltrating the churches.", then you have a point.

If you believe that providing government cheese to Christian churches is supporting religion, then you don't.

As for eliminating prayer (mandatory prayer, as voluntary prayer is legal) or "any phase of religious expression" in public, government supported schools, that is most certainly a separation of church and state issue as well.

The wall of separation between church and state, far from being a "Communist agenda", is one of the cornerstones of liberty in this nation.
 
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The wall of separation between church and state, far from being a "Communist agenda", is one of the cornerstones of liberty in this nation.
Please explain where in the US Constitution is states separation of church and state.

In fact, the US Constitution strictly prohibits the government for infringing on the rights of American citizens to exercise religion!

1st Amendment to the US Constitution

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


But somehow you see prohibiting the right of free exercise of religion a "cornerstone of liberty" .....

Not much of a Free Thinker are you .....
 
Please explain where in the US Constitution is states separation of church and state.

In fact, the US Constitution strictly prohibits the government for infringing on the rights of American citizens to exercise religion!

1st Amendment to the US Constitution

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


But somehow you see prohibiting the right of free exercise of religion a "cornerstone of liberty" .....

Not much of a Free Thinker are you .....
The phrase was coined, I believe, by Andrew Jackson, and has been an operating policy of this nation ever since. Score one for liberty.

Many other presidents, including the first one, made similar statements.
 
The phrase was coined, I believe, by Andrew Jackson, and has been an operating policy of this nation ever since. Score one for liberty.

Many other presidents, including the first one, made similar statements.
Wrong again ....

It was Thomas Jefferson who coined that term in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The term has since been taken out of context and was used in the 1963 Supreme Court case that removed prayer from our public schools.

And, yes ..... many other Presidents have mentioned this "coined term" but, only in the context of the government forcing religion on the citizens .... never in the context of the government preventing the free exercise of religion among it's citizens!
 
Wrong again ....

It was Thomas Jefferson who coined that term in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The term has since been taken out of context and was used in the 1963 Supreme Court case that removed prayer from our public schools.

And, yes ..... many other Presidents have mentioned this "coined term" but, only in the context of the government forcing religion on the citizens .... never in the context of the government preventing the free exercise of religion among it's citizens!

When you are talking about mandatory prayer in the public schools, you are talking about preventing the free exercise of religion.

Voluntary prayer is legal.
 
So the school is promoting "Idol" worship?

Isn't that a problem with today's society?
 
Sen. Rand Paul: ‘Worldwide War on Christianity’ Ignored by Obama, Media

The “war on Christianity” is being ignored by the mainstream media and the Obama administration, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) charged Friday, addressing the global attacks on Christians around the world.

“From Boston to Zanzibar, there’s a worldwide war on Christianity,” Paul said to applause Friday when speaking at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.
 
Sen. Rand Paul: ‘Worldwide War on Christianity’ Ignored by Obama, Media

The “war on Christianity” is being ignored by the mainstream media and the Obama administration, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) charged Friday, addressing the global attacks on Christians around the world.

“From Boston to Zanzibar, there’s a worldwide war on Christianity,” Paul said to applause Friday when speaking at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.

It's a good thing we have conservative outlets like PBS to give us the real story.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Now, in the final story from her recent overseas reporting trip, Margaret Warner looks at Egypt's Christians, who have been victims of dozens of attacks since July.

MARGARET WARNER: The attackers came at night to the Church of the Virgin Mary, for more than 60 years a Coptic Christian sanctuary in the village of Kafr Hakim.

Fifi Awad worshiped there.

FIFI AWAD, Egypt (through interpreter): They attacked the church. They took everything they could take, the generator, the refrigerator, even bags they thought had donation money. Then they burned the first and second floors and said, "Allahu akbar."
 
If there is anything that can be gleaned from the intent of the framers of the Constitution, it is that our nation was founded on secular principles and not religious doctrine. The founding fathers well knew that the separation of church and state was the only way to preserve religious freedom. Religious wars had been waged in Europe over its union; and, indeed, some of the first colonists, the Pilgrims, came to America to escape state-sponsored religious persecution. The right to worship freely, without government interference, is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, and not by God. It is time that people of faith reconcile themselves with this fundamental fact.
 
Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence - George Washington, who presided over the Constitutional Convention - and James Madison, who drafted the First Amendment - all affirmed that our nation was not founded on religion. The separation of church and state is the founding principle in the protection of religious freedom as provided in the First Amendment to the Constitution; and, moreover, the Supreme Court has so interpreted the Constitution. In Everson v. Board of Education, the Supreme Court ruled:

"The meaning and scope of the First Amendment, preventing establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, in the light of its history and the evils it was designed forever to suppress, have been several times elaborated by the decisions of this Court prior to the application of the First Amendment to the states by the Fourteenth. The broad meaning given the Amendment by these earlier cases has been accepted by this Court in its decisions concerning an individual's religious freedom rendered since the Fourteenth Amendment was interpreted to make the prohibitions of the First applicable to state action abridging religious freedom. There is every reason to give the same application and broad interpretation to the 'establishment of religion' clause. The interrelation of these complementary clauses was well summarized in a statement of the Court of Appeals of South Carolina, quoted with approval by this Court, in Watson v. Jones, 13 Wall. 679, 730: 'The structure of our government has, for the preservation of civil liberty, rescued the temporal institutions from religious interference. On the other hand, it has secured religious liberty from the invasions of the civil authority.'

"The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.' Reynolds v. United States, supra, 98 U.S. at page 164." [footnotes omitted] Everson v. Board of Education of Ewing TP. et al., 330 U.S. 1, pp. 15,16 (1947).
 
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If there is anything that can be gleaned from the intent of the framers of the Constitution, it is that our nation was founded on secular principles and not religious doctrine. The founding fathers well knew that the separation of church and state was the only way to preserve religious freedom. Religious wars had been waged in Europe over its union; and, indeed, some of the first colonists, the Pilgrims, came to America to escape state-sponsored religious persecution. The right to worship freely, without government interference, is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, and not by God. It is time that people of faith reconcile themselves with this fundamental fact.

Good luck with that^

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