USA Is The Sponsor Of Dictatorships !

[Free Palestine]

Do you support terrorism?

Absolutely not . I don't support terrorism .

Just so we're clear on the definition of terrorism:

ter·ror·ism
   –noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

There is no global definition for terrorism . And this makes the word " terrorism" like a bomb that is being thrown from each side to the other .

Anyway, if I will agree on your definition . I find clearely that US and Israel are the the best of who fit the definition. US used and still using violence for political purposes. Still killing innocents everyday in Pakistan and Iraq, still supporting Israel with weapons to kill children . Don't you call all of this " terrorism" ?????

 

[GenSeneca]

Absolutely not . I don't support terrorism

How do you think the issues between Palestine and Israel can be solved?

 

[OldTrapper]

Why do you think that Palestinians are the side who started fighting ? If you go to the near history , you will find that the bombers started to take place in early 1990 . But before that date , I mean since 1948 , Israel killed tens of thousands of Palestinians brutally . And stole their lands and houses . Were those Palestinians carrying bombs ? .

You must be a Democrat. You lie like one.

http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

You must know that Israel is the only side who started to break the laws and to kill civilians, which in turn forced Palestinians to do so .

"This portion of Palestine was renamed Trans-Jordan. Trans-Jordan would again be renamed "Jordan" in 1946. In other words, the eastern 3/4 of Palestine would be renamed TWICE, in effect, erasing all connection to the name "Palestine!" However, the bottom line is that the Palestinian Arabs had THEIR "Arab Palestinian" homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (now WEST of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then nor now.

Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory west of the Jordan River launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became painfully clear to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

I told you that Israel is the side who declared the war in 1948. Israel was established over the skulls of civilians . After all this , How do you want the Middle East to look to Israel ? Is it a dove of peace ?

Israel has declared war on no one. It has defended its right to exist against all others, and will contimue to do so.

BTW, Muslims have been at war with the "infidels" since Mohammed declared it to be so in the 7th. Century.

 

[OldTrapper]

Mind you, if you look at how Bush came to office you can understand why he doesn't like democracy.

Oh great. Another Bush conspiracy from the irrational one.

 

[OldTrapper]

Chavez was democratically elected and the US should just **** off out of his country, especially when they run their own country so badly

Well, guess they could if Chavez was not using the wealth of his people to spread his communist ideas, shutting down all opposition media, and fomenting rebellion in other countries. Then too, there is always the threat of what he can do to our oil supply, and his usual BS.

 

[rationalist]

Chavez was democratically elected.

The US hates the fact that he is left wing, has oil and uses it for his own people's benefit.

So keep your lardass US nazi murderous nose out of Venezuela...

Iraq
Afghanistan
Iran
Yemen
Yugoslavia
Grenada
Nicaragua
Chile
Cuba
Libya
The Phillipines
Vietnam
Cambodia

and I could go on and on and on

The world should arrest America and impeach it for war crimes

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Let's face it, the Jews and Palestinians will not get along, will never get along, and eventually one will have to destroy the other.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

HEY!! You sound very much like our democrat party!! Are you a democrat?

HEY!! You sound very much like our Party Of NO!!

Are you a rep for The Party Of NO?

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Great way to open the lines-o'-communication....especially to avoid doing anything, huh?

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[Mr. Shaman]

And your friends have killed millions simply because of who they are.

Of course, the left has always supported dictators, and petty tyrrants.

O.K., here's an opportunity for everyone to pick the Other Party's favorite Dictators.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If the Palestinians would stop doing those things Israel would stop trying to kill the sub human terrorists.

Ah, yes....no bias, here......

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[Mr. Shaman]

Do you support terrorism?

Just so we're clear on the definition of terrorism:

ter·ror·ism
   –noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Is it different, when WE do it?​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

How do you think the issues between Palestine and Israel can be solved?

It seems, to me, we'd (first) need to look at how we got from there...to here (The Present)....'cause that's Everyone's issue, presently....and, unlike the U.S.....that's a LOTTA HISTORY!!!

Here are some unique dates:​

3'rd millennium BC: The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. They became urbanized and lived in city-states, one of which was Jericho . They developed an alphabet. Palestine's location at the center of routes linking three continents made it the meeting place for religious and cultural influences from Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, and Asia Minor. It was also the natural battleground for the great powers of the region and subject to domination by adjacent empires, beginning with Egypt in the 3d millennium BC.

....So, Palestine started-OUT as an area-of-contention....and, War.​

1517 AD: The Ottoman Turks of Asia Minor defeated the Mamelukes, with few interruptions, ruled Palestine until the winter of 1917-18. The country was divided into several districts (sanjaks), such as that of Jerusalem. The administration of the districts was placed largely in the hands of Arab Palestinians, who were descendants of the Canaanites. The Christian and Jewish communities, however, were allowed a large measure of autonomy. Palestine shared in the glory of the Ottoman Empire during the 16th century, but declined again when the empire began to decline in the 17th century.

So far....it's lookin' like everyone managed to get-along....​

1897: The first Zionist Congress held Basle, Switzerland; issued the Basle programme on the colonization of Palestine.

Think of this, what you want, but.....was there some heavy-duty NEED to start creating borders?​

1914: With the outbreak of World War I, Britain promised the independence of Arab lands under Ottoman rule, including Palestine, in return for Arab support against Turkey which had entered the war on the side of Germany.

Ah, yes....it ALWAYS helped, when the Western World got involved!!!!

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[Mr. Shaman]

You must be a Democrat. You lie like one.

Yeah...you can always be relied-upon to elevate the level o' dialogue, here....Ol' Crapper.

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[Free Palestine]

How do you think the issues between Palestine and Israel can be solved?

It can be solved by giving the Palestinians all their rights including the right of return for the refugees . This was accepted by the security council . When USA and some of what is called " the great powers " stop supporting the Israeli terrorism and look fairly to that case , then the peace has an opportunity to exist . And until this happen - which I strongly believe will never happen - , Palestinians will continue to defend themselves unless Israel stops its aggression .

 

[Free Palestine]

You must be a Democrat. You lie like one.

I don't lie . But this is what you say when you have no evidences to prove your opinions .

"This portion of Palestine was renamed Trans-Jordan. Trans-Jordan would again be renamed "Jordan" in 1946. In other words, the eastern 3/4 of Palestine would be renamed TWICE, in effect, erasing all connection to the name "Palestine!" However, the bottom line is that the Palestinian Arabs had THEIR "Arab Palestinian" homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (now WEST of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then nor now.

Oh come on , Israel didn't exist before 1948 . There was very few Jewish in Palestine and the lived peacefully. But they always dreamed in blood and stealing the others' land . This is what happened .

Palestine was ruled by the Joranian gov. and the western strip (Gaza strip) was ruled by the Egyption gov. It has been an Arab land since ever .

Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory west of the Jordan River launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt."

The British at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became painfully clear to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

Yes , there were fighting between Jewish and Palestinians . That was because Britain promised the Jewish to establish a country for them on the Arabs' land in 1917 since Britain was ruling and occupying Palestine . And when palestinians saw that the promise is being executed by stealing their land and giving it to the Jewish who came from Europe and who never even heared about Palestine , The Palestinians had to defend themsleves .

Can you answer me : From the begining, why did Britain come to palestine and occupied it ? was Palestine a British land before 1917 and the generous Britain donated by it to the Jewish ? Did Britain have the right to give that land to the Jewish ? .

Israel has declared war on no one. It has defended its right to exist against all others, and will contimue to do so.

Why does Israel has the right to exist in the Middle East ? If the Jewish were burnt brutally in Germany , then Germany has to pay the price for its crimes . Why don't Germany or Britain give you a peace of land and then go and establish your great state over it . I promise you that none of the Palestinians will come and threat you there !! .

BTW, Muslims have been at war with the "infidels" since Mohammed
declared it to be so in the 7th. Century.

Prophet Mohammad made a peace agreement with Jewish in the 7th century . But when the Jewish tried to assasinate Mohammad , he declared the war on the people who didn't recognize the agreement on which they signed .