Understanding the Enemy

[orogenicman]

... so? and your point is? ... I know all that!

I am just saying that IF MY GOD WERE TO PROMISE ME 70 VIRGINS - I WOULD KILL THE WORLD

TRUTH IS - the God I know is not a God of the flesh ... no buying of nukes for me!

Well, gee, you must be a terrorist wannabe, then. That figures.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

Well, gee, you must be a terrorist wannabe, then. That figures.

REALLY? you don't read well - do you?

I SAID:

IF MY GOD WERE TO PROMISE ME 70 VIRGINS - I WOULD KILL THE WORLD​

... but MY GOD does not do that ... so - no! I am NOT a wannabe!

Let us really look at the wannabe here like a handicapped person into the formation of mountain ranges so much so that they use it in their name!

What a fraud you are to insinuate that I am a wannabe!

 

[orogenicman]

REALLY? you don't read well - do you?

I SAID:

IF MY GOD WERE TO PROMISE ME 70 VIRGINS - I WOULD KILL THE WORLD​

... but MY GOD does not do that ... so - no! I am NOT a wannabe!

Let us really look at the wannabe here like a handicapped person into the formation of mountain ranges so much so that they use it in their name!

What a fraud you are to insinuate that I am a wannabe!

Dude, you are the one who made very clear that "IF MY GOD WERE TO PROMISE ME 70 VIRGINS - I WOULD KILL THE WORLD". If that doesn't make you a terrorist wannabe, what does? As for your god, I've already shown you where your god has, according to your own book, done terrible things (or rather, his people have done terrible things in his name). But we can expand on that if you like. Like when he allegedly drowned the entire world because of the actions of the very few people living in the Middle East at the time. And why did he smite Lot's wife, who, by all accounts, was a nice lady?

So you are still insulting me because I am disabled? How, erm, Christ-like of you. I'm sure Jesus would approve.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

Dude, you are the one who made very clear that "IF MY GOD WERE TO PROMISE ME 70 VIRGINS - I WOULD KILL THE WORLD". If that doesn't make you a terrorist wannabe, what does? As for your god, I've already shown you where your god has, according to your own book, done terrible things (or rather, his people have done terrible things in his name). But we can expand on that if you like. Like when he allegedly drowned the entire world because of the actions of the very few people living in the Middle East at the time. And why did he smite Lot's wife, who, by all accounts, was a nice lady?

So you are still insulting me because I am disabled? How, erm, Christ-like of you. I'm sure Jesus would approve.

are aware that the word "IF" should be the initials to "IDIOT'S FANTASY"

and for you being disabled - that issue is of less value to me than your lame attempt to twist my words ...

Personally - YOUR ATTEMPT to validate your over schooled homelessness as a situation of urgency that people like me need to break away from our lives and the issues which we find to me MORE IMPORTANT which we personally have chosen to contend with JUST to bail out ridiculously poor judgment is very typical of the weakness of the left.

Of course your knowledge and intrepitation of the Bible is so lacking that you have no valid capability to insinuate that MY God is so inadequate!

FOR THE RECORD - I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN - I do not accept Jesus as a Messiah!

 

[orogenicman]

are aware that the word "IF" should be the initials to "IDIOT'S FANTASY"

It's your fantasy, dude. Do you have such fantasies often?

and for you being disabled - that issue is of less value to me than your lame attempt to twist my words ...

Personally - YOUR ATTEMPT to validate your over schooled homelessness as a situation of urgency that people like me need to break away from our lives and the issues which we find to me MORE IMPORTANT which we personally have chosen to contend with JUST to bail out ridiculously poor judgment is very typical of the weakness of the left.

Wow, more ad hominem. What a surprise. So the poor are poor because they have "ridiculously poor judgement?" So when you were homeless, were you also using "ridiculously poor judgement"? And did that "ridiculously poor judgement" make yuo a member of the "left" which you so adamently rail aganst?

Of course your knowledge and intrepitation of the Bible is so lacking that you have no valid capability to insinuate that MY God is so inadequate!

Notice that your response didn't actually address the biblical issues I raised, but instead attacked the messenger. How sad for you.

FOR THE RECORD - I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN - I do not accept Jesus as a Messiah!

So you are Jewish, then? Just curious, since most of my closest friends are Jewish (including my ex-wife), and I've yet to meet one with the views you apparently hold. But hey, to each his own, I suppose.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

It's your fantasy, dude. Do you have such fantasies often? what a weak attempt at holding up a dead end idea



Wow, more ad hominem. What a surprise. So the poor are poor because they have "ridiculously poor judgement?" So when you were homeless, were you also using "ridiculously poor judgement"? And did that "ridiculously poor judgement" make yuo a member of the "left" which you so adamently rail aganst? YES - it did ... then I got smart and started doing for myself and accepting my own faults causes in the situation I was in - SO, what happened to you?




Notice that your response didn't actually address the biblical issues I raised, but instead attacked the messenger. How sad for you. not sad for me - you are the one totally mislabeling what I am about - you have yet to understand a SINGLE thing which is correct.



So you are Jewish, then? Just curious, since most of my closest friends are Jewish (including my ex-wife), and I've yet to meet one with the views you apparently hold. But hey, to each his own, I suppose.

Jewish??? NO!! not even close ... although I do like their concept of the Maimonides' eight levels of charity (especially the first three levels) but you wouldn't understand how that applies to me with all your crystal ball delusions of what I am.

NOTICE HOW SMART YOU ARE? Also how well you are capable of paying attention to FACTS? With ALL your Jewish friends and ALL you think you know - why would I have quoted New Testament if I were JEWISH?

SO incompetent - And STILL Yammer on!
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... but you would NEVER have figured that out ... because you think you know more about me than I do ....

even though you have miss the mark on everything you have insinuated about me ... that is so typical of you liberal types ALWAYS talking like you know something and SO WRONG!

 

[orogenicman]

Jewish??? NO!! not even close ... although I do like their concept of the Maimonides' eight levels of charity (especially the first three levels) but you wouldn't understand how that applies to me with all your crystal ball delusions of what I am.

NOTICE HOW SMART YOU ARE? Also how well you are capable of paying attention to FACTS? With ALL your Jewish friends and ALL you think you know - why would I have quoted New Testament if I were JEWISH?

SO incompetent - And STILL Yammer on!
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... but you would NEVER have figured that out ... because you think you know more about me than I do ....

even though you have miss the mark on everything you have insinuated about me ... that is so typical of you liberal types ALWAYS talking like you know something and SO WRONG!

You tend to make bogus arguments crafted far more to belittle your opponents than to address conversational topics. Why is that?

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

You tend to make bogus arguments crafted far more to belittle your opponents than to address conversational topics. Why is that?

BOGUS ARGUMENTS? ... and EVERY insinuation you have made in reguard to me was "WRONG!"

Shaddap -- you are such a CLUELESS person and a typical liberal hypocrite

 

[orogenicman]

How is a question an insinuation? You said that you aren't a Christian and yet you claim to be very knowledgable about the Bible. Since half of the Bible is based on Jewish books (the old testament) I asked if you are Jewish. Since you aren't Jewish either, then what, exactly, are you, if not a christian or a Jew?

And dude, I claim no independant knowledge of who or what you are. I can only rely on what you tell me about yourself. If your god is the god of the Bible, then, by definition, you are either Christian or you are Jewish. Which is it?

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

How is a question an insinuation? You said that you aren't a Christian and yet you claim to be very knowledgable about the Bible. Since half of the Bible is based on Jewish books (the old testament) I asked if you are Jewish. Since you aren't Jewish either, then what, exactly, are you, if not a christian or a Jew?

And dude, I claim no independant knowledge of who or what you are. I can only rely on what you tell me about yourself. If your god is the god of the Bible, then, by definition, you are either Christian or you are Jewish. Which is it?

your assumption that I was Jewish (even though I quoted New Testament which Judaism does not follow which you should know about if you were really around them)
It would be comparable to my What? Are you gay? since probably nearly ALL GAY's are typically Democrats.

Since you are so interested in my faith.

1. I am religious - I religiously wash my hands after I use the toilet.
2. I accept Jesus as a prophet and for the greater part - I accept the Bible as a great tool when used to guide family structure and the development of sound societal values.
3. I absolutely fight for Religious Freedom as a Constitutional Right. Even if a Mosque is built a couple blocks from ground zero.
4. I do not accept, believe, nor partake in those goofy fish people slap on the back of their auto's. I would rather wear sack cloth and lay in ash rather than to wear a symbol of religion as though it were more than a golden calf.
5. in MY OPINION church has strayed way too far from Biblical teachings
6. In My Opinion - the Church Jesus was about was NOT incorporates. He taught on hillsides and it appears as though he had little respect for the business of religion.
7. I also believe in helping people EXACTLY as the Bible teaches and to me Food banks and soup kitchens are AGAINST the teaching of the Bible ... EVEN THE WIDOW'S and ORPHAN'S and STRANGERS had to go to the field and glean what they got to eat - NO ONE JUST FREELY GAVE THEM FOOD for standing in line as it is said in the Bible in Deu 24:21 (where it says) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.
8. I also believe that by just handing away free food, free food stamps, ultra cheap housing, free medical, and free clothes, and free child care ... our society has bred a slothful and lazy people.
9. I also believe that when one of those help programs make people line up before five to eat - they have taken away too many working hours which encourage people to just disregard work so they can eat.

ALSO - I can say this ... if someone were to hand me a 3 store shopping center and an abandon motel and the start up cash - I could make a community help center far better than any of those that are out there - just for the people who REALLY WANT actual help and willing to help themselves!

You have crossed the line MANY times with your type of questioning to the extent of being COMPLETELY INSULTING
For one who professes to be schooled in Anthropology - your skills in asking questions which are not very well honed, are they?

When I see people on the left acting as though they wish to discuss things
I know it will become a name calling session and your side is simply to limited in change that is CORRECT to figure it out.

I am TOTALLY against the Liberal Republican and the Socialist Democrats.

BOTH SIDES are a cesspool of bio waist drowning our society and system of value

 

[orogenicman]

your assumption that I was Jewish (even though I quoted New Testament which Judaism does not follow which you should know about if you were really around them)
It would be comparable to my What? Are you gay? since probably nearly ALL GAY's are typically Democrats.

Since you are so interested in my faith.

1. I am religious - I religiously wash my hands after I use the toilet.
2. I accept Jesus as a prophet and for the greater part - I accept the Bible as a great tool when used to guide family structure and the development of sound societal values.
3. I absolutely fight for Religious Freedom as a Constitutional Right. Even if a Mosque is built a couple blocks from ground zero.
4. I do not accept, believe, nor partake in those goofy fish people slap on the back of their auto's. I would rather wear sack cloth and lay in ash rather than to wear a symbol of religion as though it were more than a golden calf.
5. in MY OPINION church has strayed way too far from Biblical teachings
6. In My Opinion - the Church Jesus was about was NOT incorporates. He taught on hillsides and it appears as though he had little respect for the business of religion.
7. I also believe in helping people EXACTLY as the Bible teaches and to me Food banks and soup kitchens are AGAINST the teaching of the Bible ... EVEN THE WIDOW'S and ORPHAN'S and STRANGERS had to go to the field and glean what they got to eat - NO ONE JUST FREELY GAVE THEM FOOD for standing in line as it is said in the Bible in Deu 24:21 (where it says) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.
8. I also believe that by just handing away free food, free food stamps, ultra cheap housing, free medical, and free clothes, and free child care ... our society has bred a slothful and lazy people.
9. I also believe that when one of those help programs make people line up before five to eat - they have taken away too many working hours which encourage people to just disregard work so they can eat.

ALSO - I can say this ... if someone were to hand me a 3 store shopping center and an abandon motel and the start up cash - I could make a community help center far better than any of those that are out there - just for the people who REALLY WANT actual help and willing to help themselves!

You have crossed the line MANY times with your type of questioning to the extent of being COMPLETELY INSULTING
For one who professes to be schooled in Anthropology - your skills in asking questions which are not very well honed, are they?

When I see people on the left acting as though they wish to discuss things
I know it will become a name calling session and your side is simply to limited in change that is CORRECT to figure it out.

I am TOTALLY against the Liberal Republican and the Socialist Democrats.

BOTH SIDES are a cesspool of bio waist drowning our society and system of value

I find it quite ironic that you would complain about name calling here since you are the one doing it. I'm just trying to understand your religious preference, since you appear to be afraid to say what it is. So we've established that you aren't Jewish. But you don't appear to be saying that you are Christian, either, though you obviously claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ. *****, then?

 

[BigRob]

How are they going to nuke anyone if they don't have the means? And even if they acquire nukes, do you honestly believe they would risk becoming a block of melted slag by using their nukes against the U.S., or Israel, or any other nuclear power? To what end? You give them credit for having more power than they actually have or will ever have.

The problem is not that Iran would go off an use a nuclear weapon against anyone, but rather that it would cause a wave of nuclear proliferation throughout the Middle East. This is something we can all probably agree that we do not want.

 

[orogenicman]

"But you don't appear to be saying that you are Christian, either, though you obviously claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ. *****, then?"

That last part is not what I intended. What I intended was "Mormon, then?". Sorry for the mix up.

 

[orogenicman]

The problem is not that Iran would go off an use a nuclear weapon against anyone, but rather that it would cause a wave of nuclear proliferation throughout the Middle East. This is something we can all probably agree that we do not want.

Absolutely, I do agree that a Middle East in which all the players were proliferating nukes is not the way to go. Having said that, the largest nuclear power in the region is Israel, and yet no one seems at all worried about them.

 

[AgainstTheMachine]

I find it quite ironic that you would complain about name calling here since you are the one doing it.

I am?? and that word in part of your quote (4 quotes below which is in RED) ... is what?
Got It - a LIBERAL NICETY!

I'm just trying to understand your religious preference, since you appear to be afraid to say what it is.

there you go again ... AFRAID??
You are so off track it is actually hilarious!

the name of my religious preference HAS NO NAME other than FAITH

I do not follow any organization which wants to flaunt my God with a star, cross, fish, or bumper sticker.
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To have a name means it is labeled as a structured business (aka RELIGION)
I RELIGIOUSLY WASH MY HANDS WHEN I USE THE TOILET

PAY ATTENTION: I am NOT connected with a monastic or religious order of any sort.
Faith is NOT a Not For Profit Business Organization like .
You may follow a God, Incorporated business - I do NOT!
.... is that simple enough ... yet?

WHAT is so hard to understand? ... the God I know never came downtown and registered a business - nor did he appoint someone to do so in His name.

So we've established that you aren't Jewish.

You are STILL stuck on THAT??

But you don't appear to be saying that you are Christian, either, though you obviously claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ. *****, then?

Jesus was a prophet as far as I can tell ... like Moses and other people in the Bible.

I will say this ... WHEN I PRAY FOR MY NEEDS - they are met very well!
When I have a need which is not asked for - it is also met very well!

MY God (He who I have FAITH IN) is amazing!

It took me finding my God to get my life together! ... and LIFE IS NOW GREAT!

I just found a quote on another web page which discribes what I have through my own Prayer and search found to be true:

The Father-Consciousness to whom Jesus looked to is the One and only universal God, Creator, Source, Spirit. A non religious God who’s not into theological or dogmatic constructs.

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