Students don't take school seriously...

[PLC1]

I graduated from high school in 1960.

We could have had this exact same discussion then, with the exact same reasons why some students don't take school seriously.

I'd be willing to bet we could do it again in another 49 years.

Some things never change.

If you're in school, get as much out of it as you can. You just might not have another chance. Remember, too, that there is no way to predict just what classes you will find "relevant" or useful 10, 20, or 50 years from now.

Probably the most useful single class I took in high school was typing. I didn't know that at the time, of course, but that's how it turned out. There were no computers in those days, therefore no keyboards to use.

Some things are quite predictably useful, such as reading, math, and language, the basics. Civics is another, especially if the class is set up to teach students how to sort fact from fancy and know how the government is supposed to work. If "civics" is a synonym for "indoctrination", then it might not be so useful.

And, looking back on school and work, I have discovered that the former is a lot easier than the latter.

 

[dahermit]

I think 1 thing wrong with school today is TRYING TO KEEP RELIGION OUT OF THE CLASSROOM!

Why should they not wanna teach about God or whatever in school?? (When its a part of thier lives)

I think school would be a BETTER place if there was MORE LOVE AND COMPAASION shown... (Trying to keep religion out is like KEEPING LOVE OUT and w/o love,its NO GOOD (Not a nice place))

I agree...schools should teach about god. The goddess of the thuggee. She is all powerful. Praise Kali!.....or isn't that the "God" you were talking about?
Well then, who gets to decide which god or gods, they should teach about?

 

[PLC1]

I agree...schools should teach about god. The goddess of the thuggee. She is all powerful. Praise Kali!.....or isn't that the "God" you were talking about?
Well then, who gets to decide which god or gods, they should teach about?

There is only one god, and he is Allah, and Mohammad is his prophet. Let's put that on the wall of every classroom in the country, what do you say?

 

[Mr.Dysfunctional]

The problem is solved actually fairly easy.
Well I say easy as in the concept...

Parents are literally the number 1 cause for poor student grades during K-12.. period. Weather your prinicple has a hard-on for correcting you in the hall or your teachers over0load you with work.. its been the same for decades going on. The real differnce between those who succeed and those who do not are the up-bringing from their parents.

If parents would stop treating school as a teenager "day care" and actively engaged in their childrens lives to help teach them the fundamental reasoning for school, short-cuts and do's and don't.. the system would operate ALOT smoother.

Try telling a PHD Professor your don't believe in homework or that it curbs your creativity HAHAH!!! The fact is that homework is designed to force students to critcally think about subjects on their own as well keep concepts fresh in their mind. **sigh**

Honestly most school administraters actually lack huge amounts of power they once wielded over students. Thank that to firivlous lawsuits via parents looking to make a buck (( affirmative action ring a bell??!?! )) The simple truth is administraters should be completely allowed to ban any students who distract entire class-rooms consitently.

As far as removing homework.. LMAO!!! yeah thats certainly perparing your children for college or salary jobs. (( last time i checked.. on salary you never " clock-out" and will find many of those jobs have "required homework" )) No wonder we are raising a generation of socialist , ungreatful heathens who lack respect of history and the generations before them.

 

[Agnapostate]

Many students don't take school seriously anymore.

Most students see education as a chore and a hassle, even though they should be considering it a privilege.

What is happening to our country! What kind of mindset do we have?

That's not inaccurate. Schooling is largely hierarchical and authoritarian, and students naturally regard it as an unjust imposition. I'd be inclined to agree with them. Schooling is largely divorced from education at present.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

I myself am currently in school, and I thought that it would be nice for you all to hear it from the child's mouth.

The reasons most children [so far as I know] dislike school is this:

1. The inability to contradict the teacher.

2. That it is called teaching, but you are not learning anything.

3. You are forced to go.

4. That free speech and thought are stifled.

5. That you are encouraged to view the police who come in as heros, even though many of us have had thier lives ruined by these people.

6. The inability to even leave a room without being punished.

7. The general ignorance and blind patriotism of the teachers.

8. Having to listen to old yuppies who think they are indian and black at the same time, and sing endless nature songs to us.

9. The inability to speak the truth.

10. The fact that your parents are punished for what you do.

11. The disgusting political correctness.

12. The fact that there are barriers keeping you in, and teachers who chase you if you try to leave.

And the list goes on...

 

[Dude111]

I believe the list is endless..

 

[PLC1]

I myself am currently in school, and I thought that it would be nice for you all to hear it from the child's mouth.

The reasons most children [so far as I know] dislike school is this:

1. The inability to contradict the teacher.

2. That it is called teaching, but you are not learning anything.

3. You are forced to go.

4. That free speech and thought are stifled.

5. That you are encouraged to view the police who come in as heros, even though many of us have had thier lives ruined by these people.

6. The inability to even leave a room without being punished.

7. The general ignorance and blind patriotism of the teachers.

8. Having to listen to old yuppies who think they are indian and black at the same time, and sing endless nature songs to us.

9. The inability to speak the truth.

10. The fact that your parents are punished for what you do.

11. The disgusting political correctness.

12. The fact that there are barriers keeping you in, and teachers who chase you if you try to leave.

And the list goes on...

So, Dante, you're in high school, correct? Most of what you're saying doesn't apply in the university.

But, be patient. Those old folks who are making your life miserable will get a lot smarter the older you get. Count on it.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

So, Dante, you're in high school, correct? Most of what you're saying doesn't apply in the university.

But, be patient. Those old folks who are making your life miserable will get a lot smarter the older you get. Count on it.

I have noticed them getting dumber as I get older, for example, the security guard calls anyone who cusses a "dirt person".

 

[dahermit]

I myself am currently in school, and I thought that it would be nice for you all to hear it from the child's mouth.

The reasons most children [so far as I know] dislike school is this:

1. The inability to contradict the teacher.

2. That it is called teaching, but you are not learning anything.

3. You are forced to go.

4. That free speech and thought are stifled.

5. That you are encouraged to view the police who come in as heros, even though many of us have had thier lives ruined by these people.

6. The inability to even leave a room without being punished.

7. The general ignorance and blind patriotism of the teachers.

8. Having to listen to old yuppies who think they are indian and black at the same time, and sing endless nature songs to us.

9. The inability to speak the truth.

10. The fact that your parents are punished for what you do.

11. The disgusting political correctness.

12. The fact that there are barriers keeping you in, and teachers who chase you if you try to leave.

And the list goes on...

You are absolutley correct. You are much too smart to waste your time in school. You should leave now and share your superior knowledge with the world. Your brain is too important to waste any more time in a school where the teachers are not smart enough to see how superior you are to them. Business and industry are waiting with wonderful and high paid postitions just for people like you. Adults have nothing to teach you. Both You and your teachers will be much happier; trust me.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

You are absolutley correct. You are much too smart to waste your time in school. You should leave now and share your superior knowledge with the world. Your brain is too important to waste any more time in a school where the teachers are not smart enough to see how superior you are to them. Business and industry are waiting with wonderful and high paid postitions just for people like you. Adults have nothing to teach you. Both You and your teachers will be much happier; trust me.

When did I say anything that deserved sarcastic remarks? I never said anything about myself, I was just saying how awful that place was.

Or perhaps you think that I do not deserve my civil rights because you automatically think that anyone under 30 drinks, smokes marijuana, become pimps, burn factorys down, deliberalitly crash into people with our unlicensed cars, and whine about not getting toys.

I cannot possibly imagine were you would get the idea that I thought I was smarter than anyone else. You pull all of these ideas straight out of your a$$ because you are biased against a certain group of people and probably want to initiate a genocide against us just because you saw some of us mildly misbehaving.

 

[dahermit]

I cannot possibly imagine were you would get the idea that I thought I was smarter than anyone else. ...mildly misbehaving.

I cannot possibly imagine either. How could I have gotten the idea that you were not one of those well behaved, respectful, wonderful kids that it is a pleasure to have in class. I must have pulled it out of my a$$.

 

[Synical]

"even though they should be considering it a privilege."

The universal education system is anything but a privilege, it's a failure of a system that is only there to best suit children into a specific job area, I don't see participating in a system that caters to the economy and nothing else as a privilege, I see it as an insult to knoweldge and to blame for the lack of experience with the real world children actually have.

 

[PLC1]

I have noticed them getting dumber as I get older, for example, the security guard calls anyone who cusses a "dirt person".

That trend will reverse once you get out of school and on your own, trust me.

 

[dahermit]

"even though they should be considering it a privilege."

The universal education system is anything but a privilege, it's a failure of a system that is only there to best suit children into a specific job area, I don't see participating in a system that caters to the economy and nothing else as a privilege, I see it as an insult to knoweldge and to blame for the lack of experience with the real world children actually have.

Can you give specific examples of how the education system suits children in specific job areas? Math is generally used in all jobs and occupations and needed in everyday living. Chemistry likewise imparts a basic knowledge that is requisite to medicine (doctors, nurses, dental hygienists, machinists, cooks, etc.). History, is basic for understanding citizenship responsibilities for all persons regardless of their occupation/profession. English is a requirement for proper written and spoken communication without regard to the occupation. What would you add to school, or what would you want removed from the curriculum? Be specific, and give your rationalization.