Texas_tea
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Considering America has fought 2 World Wars, Vietnam, Korea and countless other skirmishes over COMMUNISM ...
Can anyone tell me why an American President would even consider using this slogan .....
NOT A COINCIDENT !!!
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Considering America has fought 2 World Wars, Vietnam, Korea and countless other skirmishes over COMMUNISM ...
Can anyone tell me why an American President would even consider using this slogan .....
NOT A COINCIDENT !!!
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Its effective. Especially as bos only real reelection theme was not reversing first rerm stuff. AKA nit going backwards. This is essentially always the theme being promoted.
Texas_tea
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This has never been the slogan used. Google presidential slogans. No American president has ever used this communist slogan, but then again, until Obama, America has never elected a communist president.
Correct. America has never elected a Communist president. Probably never will, either.
We did elect Bush four times, however. the last two, it was a black Democrat Bush, but still the same policies. Change? Hope? Well, we hope for change, anyway.
Wasn't that the slogan, "hope and change", more so than "forward"? I remember "yes, we can" being another. That one goes back to the civil rights struggle, as well as Cesar Chavez and his farm labor movement.
Hope and change 1st term forward(and others)2nd term. May not have been a good idea to invoke civil rights and Chavez.
Texas_tea
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We elected Bush twice .... not for times and we "elected' Obama twice as well ...
But .... that is a piss poor excuse for Obama using the traditional communist "forward" slogan!
It is what it is .....
I am thinking there is too much evidence of Obama being a communist for you to come any where close to arguing this point ...
Again, no President in history has ever used that communist slogan .... except for our current president!
NO COINCIDENT .....
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Texas_tea
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Considering BO dedicated Cesar Chavez's home as a national monument I think it's safe to say who Obama's marxist heros are.
But, BO is not a marxist, he's really no different than any other American president, right?
Texas_tea
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Well ... kinda ....To me, he looks a lot like this:
One's a progressivist and one's a communist .... the same thing but, one's more extreme .... but, yeah .... the same!
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Marxism, socialism, communism....they are all grown on the same tree.
I liked Allen West's explanation;
"There is a very thin line between Communism and Progressivism, Marxism, Socialism, or even as Mark Levin has said, Statism."
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012...mmunism-the-congressional-progressive-caucus/
I liked Allen West's explanation;
"There is a very thin line between Communism and Progressivism, Marxism, Socialism, or even as Mark Levin has said, Statism."
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012...mmunism-the-congressional-progressive-caucus/
Texas_tea
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and socialism is an economic system in which the government owns the means of production.
Meanwhile, the value of the stock market (the real ownership of the means of production) has more than doubled since the "socialist" president was elected.
Say, TT, you never did say whether you were satisfied with the status quo of the government, or would like to see it made better.
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That would almost be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
So your saying the phony money being printed by the Federal Reserve is because the socialist Obama is doing such a great job on the economy?
What you are seeing in the stock market is nothing more than a wall street bail out and has nothing to do with the economy or helping the average joe trying to make ends meet. We will all rue the day when it implodes, and it will take a wheel barrel full of cash to buy a loaf of bread.
Nope.
I'm saying that a socialist wouldn't support polices that result in a booming Wall Street. A socialist would be more into letting the corporate world go belly up and then trying to take it over.
A socialist would be more into helping the average Joe make ends meet, and not into pumping money into the capitalist system.
and no, I'm not saying that socialism is the solution to our economic problems, just that the current administration is not demonstrating itself to be socialistic. Statist, yes. Liberal, yes. Socialist, no.
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So how would you classify Obamacare?
