Solution to the oil problem

[Sihouette]

For instance, three huge cities, major energy gobblers in California could capitalize on their geothermal resouces.

The Imperial Valley near San Diego is geothermally active near-surface. There you go SDG&E! Tap it.

Los Angeles already owns the Owen's Valley just east of the Sierra Nevada range. Guess what you see when you drive up 395? Billowing clouds of steam from thermal vents so numerous that not all of them have been named yet. There you go LA...run those power lines right alongside the LA Aquaduct. Kill two birds with one stone. Heck, you could even use that power to run the pumps that send the water over the hills and into the basin.

San Francisco...what's nearby? The Geysers. Go green SF! It's right in your backyard.

Las Vegas...Reno...Portland...Seattle...Denver...Salt Lake City...Boise...Phoenix....Santa Fe... and all the lesser cities, towns and hamlets outlying those and more areas are all ripe for geothermal energy.

Steam. Nuclear is about producing steam. Why produce it with toxic waste when it's shooting straight out of the ground in many cases or just a fingernail scratch underneath?

Steam is what coal, oil and nuclear plants seek to generate. They are all three dirty, costly, grungy and dangerous. Check your stats on coal, oil and nuclear dangers and fatalities. Then check on how "dangerous" geothermal is.

There is no comparison.

 

[Andy]

I'm not going to respond to you for a couple of days to punish you for for lying to me Andy. It will be for a couple of days or until you apologize for your lies. Both the $1200 lie and the 'no private insurance' lie.

Another socialist bites the dust.

 

[Dr.Who]

For instance, three huge cities, major energy gobblers in California could capitalize on their geothermal resouces.

The Imperial Valley near San Diego is geothermally active near-surface. There you go SDG&E! Tap it.

Los Angeles already owns the Owen's Valley just east of the Sierra Nevada range. Guess what you see when you drive up 395? Billowing clouds of steam from thermal vents so numerous that not all of them have been named yet. There you go LA...run those power lines right alongside the LA Aquaduct. Kill two birds with one stone. Heck, you could even use that power to run the pumps that send the water over the hills and into the basin.

San Francisco...what's nearby? The Geysers. Go green SF! It's right in your backyard.

Do you really think that the greenest state in the nation hasn't thought of that? Maybe it's not so simple.

 

[Andy]

Do you really think that the greenest state in the nation hasn't thought of that? Maybe it's not so simple.

I have been ignoring his comments specifically because... well... he seems insane.

This is the same guy who claimed that BigOil owned congress, in order to pass laws preventing them from drilling, so that the price of oil would spike, so they could promote nuclear power, in order to scare people back to oil, which his father wrote about in the 70s, and now Bigoil is promoting Obama, who isn't electable, and all the Obama supporters, plus the Media, and all the people on this very forum that are in favor of drilling, are all actually BigOil operatives spreading the doctrine of oil....

This is not someone you can use logic or reason with.

 

[UShadItComing]

And now Andy, we can continue if you choose to do so. But I warn you I will not tolerate any lies or deceits from you.

You led me to believe that $1200 was the minimum for certain mc insurance from ICBC and that was not true. And if you had read my comments correctly you would never have found where I said that a person would not be charged $1200/year to insure his mc. ICBC operates the same way all insurance companies operate and that is on experience. You must learn to rely more on facts rather than talltales told by disgruntled people who don't have good driving records. You have no method of proving your erroneous claims.

I think I have shown you adequately now that ICBC is serving the people of B.C. in a more affordable manner than Alberta and Ontario which are the provinces where a valid comparion can be made. However I won't even spend time trying to find the rates available for the outback of Manitoba or Saskatchewan because it is irrelevant. You do so if you wish and then compare it to the Ozarks in the land of the gun too.

Or just ignore the whole thing if you like.

 

[Sihouette]

Do you really think that the greenest state in the nation hasn't thought of that? Maybe it's not so simple.~Dr. Who

It's way simpler than nuclear. Geothermal has been actively and politically beaten back. There is no viable excuse on earth to not have been utliizing it on a grand scale already. None. The politics of BigOil have kept the idea of it "ridiculous" (and development unfunded) since as long as I can remember.

Anytime you want to post a side-by-side cost and feasibility analysis, with references, for us to look at here that shows development of nuclear as cheaper and easier than geothermal, I'll be happy to look at it. The thing is, you can't.

 

[PLC1]

It's way simpler than nuclear. Geothermal has been actively and politically beaten back. There is no viable excuse on earth to not have been utliizing it on a grand scale already. None. The politics of BigOil have kept the idea of it "ridiculous" (and development unfunded) since as long as I can remember.

Anytime you want to post a side-by-side cost and feasibility analysis, with references, for us to look at here that shows development of nuclear as cheaper and easier than geothermal, I'll be happy to look at it. The thing is, you can't.

Who do you think should fund geothermal power plants?

 

[GenSeneca]

Geothermal has been actively and politically beaten back.

Riiiiiight.... Thats why we will be at 66% of our national capacity for Geo in 10 years - since there are BILLIONS being poured into development and expansion.... All of which is PROOF BigOil is running the show...

 

[Andy]

You led me to believe that $1200 was the minimum for certain mc insurance from ICBC and that was not true. And if you had read my comments correctly you would never have found where I said that a person would not be charged $1200/year to insure his mc. ICBC operates the same way all insurance companies operate and that is on experience. You must learn to rely more on facts rather than talltales told by disgruntled people who don't have good driving records. You have no method of proving your erroneous claims.

Please locate where I said that $1200 was the minimum for motorcycle insurance. Since all the posts are here, give me the post number and exact quote that I specifically said that all motorcycle insurance was $1200.

Did you read the quote from the Canadian? He said he was quoted $1200 by ICBC. He said he was paying $160 in Alberta. He said he paid $900 for comprehensive in the US.

I think I have shown you adequately now that ICBC is serving the people of B.C. in a more affordable manner than Alberta and Ontario which are the provinces where a valid comparion can be made. However I won't even spend time trying to find the rates available for the outback of Manitoba or Saskatchewan because it is irrelevant. You do so if you wish and then compare it to the Ozarks in the land of the gun too.

Ok well one nice thing about the internet is, I can check on prices there if you like... So... I did!

Using the address "15912 Stony Plain Road NW, Edmonton, AB T5P 3Z8", which if you look it up is some sort of a restaurant in Alberta, I got a quote from Echelon General Insurance.

For minimal coverage of a Honda VT1100C Shadow, 1100cc engine, I got the quote of $288/year. For Specified Perils, or comprehensive coverage, it was $370/year.

ICBC Socialist minimal $500-$600
Alberta Capitalist minimal $288 Max $370
How many more locations would you like me to check?

I did check Ontario, and you are right about them, they are nutz. However the issue isn't Capitalism. It is, once again, Socialism. Ontario many not actually own the specific insurance company, like B.C. does ICBC, however, they control legislatively every single aspect of insurance.

As such, Ontario has a $1 MILLION liability minimum. Which is absolutely insane... if I tried to do a million dollars worth of damage with a motorbike, I doubt I could do it. To even get close I'd have to put some real effort into it, like mounting a 50 caliber machine gun and aiming at gas tanker trucks.

Also, Ontario has a "no-fault" government enforced insurance scheme. As such, in an accident, no one is 'at fault', and thus everyone gets a pay-out. So if I specifically find you, and ram your car with mine, or my bike into you, neither of us is 'at fault', and while you get compensated for damages, I also will be compensated for the damages even if I specifically caused them.

Between the $1,000,000.00 min liability coverage, and the "no-fault" everyone gets paid insurance scheme, yearly premiums in Ontario are world class. For the smallest bike I could find, with a 10 year perfect driving record, the cost was over $1,300/yearly.

Socialistic laws controlling the entire market, is not a free market. The poor public of Ontario are paying for their socialists votes.

 

[Andy]

Riiiiiight.... Thats why we will be at 66% of our national capacity for Geo in 10 years - since there are BILLIONS being poured into development and expansion.... All of which is PROOF BigOil is running the show...

Using facts and logic against the insane will not yield rational thought. But carry on, carry on. Just don't expect a light to appear over his head any time soon.

 

[UShadItComing]

I never did accuse you of saying that all mc insurance was $1200. We specifically were talking about an 1100cc and you know what you said. I have found your words for you, albeit from where Genseneca is quoting you. I would assume it's accurate unless Genseneca is just another of you lying Americans. I didn't search further because you may have already deleted yoiur words and maybe it's just a good job that Gensen quoted you.

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Andy wrote:

Please locate where I said that $1200 was the minimum for motorcycle insurance. Since all the posts are here, give me the post number and exact quote that I specifically said that all motorcycle insurance was $1200.

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post #161 by Genseneca as follows:

Originally Posted by Andy
U.S. private comprehensive is $900, and ICBC minimal is $1200.
I am not convinced.

And now I'm going to just have to insist that you apologize to me again and you promise this time to not lie to me anymore. Until I am assured that I am talking to an honest person I'm not goint to go to the trouble of wasting time with you.

Shame on you American capitalist liar!

 

[UShadItComing]

Who are the insane ones in this picture?

 

[Sihouette]

We all knew lithium would be the big battery of the future of electric cars. I can hear BigOil groaning audibly.

TOKYO - A new battery that can be recharged to 90 percent capacity in under five minutes and lasts 10 years will start shipping in March, Toshiba Corp. announced this week, hailing it as "a new energy solution" for cleaner transportation.

Toshiba plans to initially make the quick-charging Super Charge ion Battery for electric bikes, forklifts, construction machinery and other industrial use. It can work in temperatures as low as minus 22 degrees Fahrenheit.

A newcomer in rechargeable batteries, Toshiba said the lithium-ion battery could be used in hybrid and electric cars by 2010, Mochida said. Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22240865/

They'll keep tweaking the technology and each year will greet us with more and more efficient batteries for the future: electric cars which potentially could plug into your home solar system. Imagine "gas" for pennies to shuttle you and your family around?

Sweeeeeeeet!

(Hey GM, go out to the desert and resurrect those new cars you buried nearly a decade ago.)

 

[GenSeneca]

We all knew lithium would be the big battery of the future of electric cars. I can hear BigOil groaning audibly.



They'll keep tweaking the technology and each year will greet us with more and more efficient batteries for the future: electric cars which potentially could plug into your home solar system. Imagine "gas" for pennies to shuttle you and your family around?

Sweeeeeeeet!

None of that story can be true....

• It came from the GOP (PSYOPS) controlled Media
• Big Oil and Bush are both still in power
• Alternatives, including batteries, are being actively suppressed
• There is no funding for R & D until the Government provides it

Ya' know?

 

[UShadItComing]

We all knew lithium would be the big battery of the future of electric cars. I can hear BigOil groaning audibly.



They'll keep tweaking the technology and each year will greet us with more and more efficient batteries for the future: electric cars which potentially could plug into your home solar system. Imagine "gas" for pennies to shuttle you and your family around?

Sweeeeeeeet!

(Hey GM, go out to the desert and resurrect those new cars you buried nearly a decade ago.)

Ignore this folks, she doesn't have the foggiest idea how many solar panels it's going to take to get her car to the corner store, never mind back home.

People like this should get themselves a gallon gasoline, pour about a 1/4 ounce into a tin cup, take it out to their backyard, and light it on fire. Repeat experiment until appreciation is gained for gasoline. Pay no attention to your hair disappering off your head and eyebrows with the first 1/4 ounce. It gets better!

Warning, do not use a pie plate if you want to prevent from burning down your neighbour's house. Especially you because your neighbour's house is probably cardboard.