Mare Tranquillity
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I'm not in the habit of believing everything the pope says -- only those that are logical.
Unfortunately for you, the pope's positions that you happily criticize happen to be the most logical things he had said.
Wait a second, Nums, on the Nicea thread you said that science is part of divine revelation, yet the Catholic Church has been foursquare against scientific discoveries like the heliocentric solar system, that transsexualism is a birth defect, that children should not have sex with priests, and that homosexuality is a normal variation in human sexuality.
On the Nicea thread you said just the opposite, that the Salvation Story doesn't make sense without the historical part of the Bible to give it continuity. Here's your quote:The bible wasn't meant to be read as a historical document. How many more times do I need to say this before you give yourself leave to understand, hmmm?
Originally Posted by numinus
The thing is, salvation HISTORY simply doesn't make sense if god's self-revelation abruptly stopped with the acts of the apostles 2000 yrs ago, does it? Nor would it make any sense if it were presented independent of the millieu in which it happened, would it?
Great idea, isn't it, we can restructure the Bible to remove all the violence attributed to God, we can take out all the crazy goat-herder myth and tradition, we install Jesus as the central figure of Christianity and have His teachings be the focus of Christian practive. Instead of the Ten Commandments we can have the Two Commandments that Jesus said were the most important ones in the Bible. Instead of quoting 'an eye for an eye' we can teach people to quote 'return good for evil' or 'pray for those who use you spitefully', it'll be a new day for Christianity with the contradictions taken out of the Bible.Council of nicea, indeed!