Prove that God doesn't exist.

[steveox]

Oh, well, if Penn and Teller said it, then it stands proven.

Say, steveox, are you really trying to prove a negative? Go back a few posts on this same thread, and see what was shown about the difficulty of such an enterprise.

Prove it Heaven is like this

All i saw is this

NOTHING!!! So Religion is Bull****!

 

[PLC1]

Prove it Heaven is like this

All i saw is this

NOTHING!!! So Religion is Bull****!

Heaven doesn't have to look like either one.

 

[steveox]

What is heaven then?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

What is heaven then?

The crux of the matter is that no one knows. No one knows if there is a God. No one knows if God cares about us. No one knows if there is a Heaven or a Hell. And this lack of knowing frightens many people, so they decide to pretend that they know, and they pretend so hard that they forget that they really DON'T know. One of the reasons that many religious people are so absolute in their claims of KNOWING is to cover up the fact that they don't know, it comforts them to believe and some of them will even resort to violence to protect their comfortable pretending.

I think there is a creative force in the Universe, but I don't know for sure. Experiences like being out of my body lead me to suspect that we are more than the sum of our physical parts, we are a gestalt and our "self" may not cease to exist when our physical body dies. It'll be an interesting journey to make.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

speak..............free........america ............Dot .....Com

You've posted the same obscure message on two threads now, what does it mean? What are you trying to say?

 

[steveox]

The crux of the matter is that no one knows. No one knows if there is a God. No one knows if God cares about us. No one knows if there is a Heaven or a Hell. And this lack of knowing frightens many people, so they decide to pretend that they know, and they pretend so hard that they forget that they really DON'T know. One of the reasons that many religious people are so absolute in their claims of KNOWING is to cover up the fact that they don't know, it comforts them to believe and some of them will even resort to violence to protect their comfortable pretending.

I think there is a creative force in the Universe, but I don't know for sure. Experiences like being out of my body lead me to suspect that we are more than the sum of our physical parts, we are a gestalt and our "self" may not cease to exist when our physical body dies. It'll be an interesting journey to make.

An interesting journey? To Nothing?? except total darkness?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

An interesting journey? To Nothing?? except total darkness?

The essence of a journey is discovery, I haven't been there so I don't know what's waiting for me there. You have seen blackness, perhaps you need to go farther down the road to get into the light. No one knows, that's why we have so many religious theories.

Think of it as being an adventure, when you die you get to find out what's next.

 

[steveox]

I hope its reincarnation. Cause my next life i wanna do it right.I hope my parents are very wealthy in my next life and i like to be born beautiful with athletic ability so i can play professonal sports.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

I hope its reincarnation. Cause my next life i wanna do it right.I hope my parents are very wealthy in my next life and i like to be born beautiful with athletic ability so i can play professonal sports.

Good luck on that. You might find it more productive to hope that you will have the wisdom to see what's right and the courage to do it.

 

[steveox]

Well i hope my next life my Dad is the owner of NBC.And My mom is a News Reporter. And i became a High school Football and Baseball Star and i attend Florida State and Play Free Safty and play 3rd Base. And then The Baltimore Ravens Drafted me into the NFL making 8 million a year.Plus id be so attractive to girls that i cant get them away from me just like Paul McCartney had so much trouble hiding from millions of screaming girls.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Well i hope my next life my Dad is the owner of NBC.And My mom is a News Reporter. And i became a High school Football and Baseball Star and i attend Florida State and Play Free Safty and play 3rd Base. And then The Baltimore Ravens Drafted me into the NFL making 8 million a year.Plus id be so attractive to girls that i cant get them away from me just like Paul McCartney had so much trouble hiding from millions of screaming girls.

Hope is cheap, indulge yourself.

 

[Beetle Bailey]

An interesting journey? To Nothing?? except total darkness?

How much light did you see before you were born into this world?

 

[steveox]

How much light did you see before you were born into this world?

I dont know i cant remember.

 

[PLC1]

What is heaven then?

I don't know, and neither does anyone else. When we get there, I'll try to find you. I have quite a list of atheists to find, just so I can say, "I told you so."

If I'm right, and there is a life after this one, then I can have the satisfaction of saying I told you so. If you're right, and there is nothing, then you will never know you were right.

 

[ArmChair General]

I don't know, and neither does anyone else. When we get there, I'll try to find you. I have quite a list of atheists to find, just so I can say, "I told you so."

If I'm right, and there is a life after this one, then I can have the satisfaction of saying I told you so. If you're right, and there is nothing, then you will never know you were right.

So what you are saying, is that all us Atheists should believe in God, solely for our future gratification? What your suggesting, is that a rational person can knowingly will himself to believe a proposition for which he has no evidence?

Do you understand, I would have to lie to myself every day, about everything I see in the world, to even pretend that there was a God.

I suspect no one ever acquires his religious beliefs in this way (Pascal certainly didn't). But even if some people do, who could be so foolish as to think that such beliefs are likely to be true?