When is the part where he gets three wishes? Or is that a different fairy tale Im thinking of?
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Prove that God doesn't exist.
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When is the part where he gets three wishes? Or is that a different fairy tale Im thinking of?
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Of course. All creatures that live or used to live on Earth are creations of god.
pocketfullofshells
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and the Dinosaurs had to much gay sex, and where thus wiped off the earth by the angry god
and the Dinosaurs had to much gay sex, and where thus wiped off the earth by the angry god
No, no! This is what happened to the dinosaurs:
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But the earth is no older than 6000 years old. How could dinosaurs ever exist?
I think I can detect a pretty thick irony dripping from that statement, but if you believe it you may be interested in some oceanfront property for sale in Arizona.
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Science deals with the matieral world. That said, what evidence is there that anything but the material world exists, considering that it is the only world we can experience with our evolved senses or the tools we invent to detect it?Perhaps 'why' questions are not the correct questions to ask because there is no correct answer that we can give to them. Perhaps that is why science deals with the how, not the why. So, for instance, we can travel across the planet and search for evidence of our earliest beginnings and then devise a theory of how we came about, how we evolved. And in so doing, perhaps we do provide a glimpse of an answer as to the why. For instance, perhaps we exist because natural selection made it possible for us to have large, curious brains.
As for there being no purpose to human life, I never made such a claim, and I don't think that most scientists would make that claim either. Albert Einstein once said:
"A human being is a part of a whole, call by us 'universe'; a part limited in time, space, and human consciousness. He sees himself as something separate from the rest - a sort of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a sort of prison for us, restricting us to our own personal desires and thoughts, and to affection for those closest to us. The way of liberation from this prison is by widening our circle of compassion to include all of mankind and all of nature in its beauty. While no one can acheive this completely, the striving for such acheivement is a part of the liberation, and a foundation for inner security."
Or, perhaps we're expected to use those large curious brains for some higher purpose. You're right: there is no correct answer to the why questions, at least none that we know of yet, and none that can be proven scientifically.
Science and philosophy/religion are two very different things.
If there is a purpose to human life, then it follows that we were put here on Earth for that purpose, and that implies an intelligence higher than ours and a spiritual as well as a material existence. If human life simply evolved by accident, then what does it matter whether we widen our circles of compassion to include all of mankind or not? Mankind simply exists on a minor planet circling a sun at the edge of one galaxy among billions. One day, we will be gone, and no one will know or care.
I just realized what a mistake it was getting into this conversation. This is a conversation completely devoid of logic or even rational thought. Even religion's(of any kind) most intellectual supporters fall back on blind faith. All of them rely on religious text written by man known to be faulty. If there is any kind of creator I doubt any man could even come close to guessing what he/she/it/whatever is like. For those of you who choose blind faith above all. What make you so sure you are not worshipping the main character of the most wildly excepted fable known today? What makes your faith anymore valid than that the greeks had in their mythology. With the tangible evidence given it is clear religion is man made and it is likely God is man made as well. Even if you assume God is real it is likely not to be any God that anyone on this earth had ever worshiped.
You have to believe one of two equally unlikely events: Either the complex web of life on Earth, including humans, evolved from the primeval ooze all on its own with no purpose, or no intelligent guidance, or there is an intelligence greater than our own behind it. You don't have to buy into the Christian or any other creation story to believe the latter option. Your statement that we can't come close to guessing what god is like is right on target. Yes, man has created religions to try to explain the inexplicable.
Most of us, down deep, are really agnostics. Some people say that they know that there is/is not a god. Some even say that they are sure they know about the unknowable. But, in the end, no one can prove that their belief is correct.
Which of the equally unlikely scenarios do you choose to believe? Life in all its complexity just happened by accident, or there is an intelligence behind it all? No one knows. We have beliefs, but none of them can be proven, including atheism.
As far as I am concerned creationism/god is a myth, no evidence points to his existence.
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The average intelligence of a human is 100. If one ever had a conversation with a person with an I.Q. of 100, one will quickly realize that persons with a 100 I.Q., it would not be correct to describe them as having, "large curious brains", and they are in fact, quite dull. It is arguable that the average I.Q. is the norm for humans and instead of judging them by the exceptions, they should be judged by the norm. Therefore, one should be cautious in attributing humans with God-given or God-like endowments.
