Perverted, God-Hating Frenchies vs. Inbred, Sex-Obsessed Yokels

[Reliant]

Though some conservatives are charitable,the main reason the majority of right-wingers give to charity is so they can claim a tax deduction.

Correct. The only reason to vote republican is because conservatives are notoriously selfish and can't stand the thought of parting with any money that might be used for a charitable cause or to help a fellow American. But when it comes to their war-mongering ways, well, the sky is the limit! They will spend your cash, and the cash of your children and grandchildren to perpetuate their selfish ways.

And perverts.... well they take the cake on that one too.

"Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an young girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four under-age girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women."


You hear about another Republican conservative molesting a child or soliciting sex in a bathroom nearly every month. Yes, the Stanford study certainly hit the nail on the head, conservatives are crazy and dangerous.

 

[palerider]

You hear about another Republican conservative molesting a child or soliciting sex in a bathroom nearly every month. Yes, the Stanford study certainly hit the nail on the head, conservatives are crazy and dangerous.

Your stafford study has been thoroughly discredited and debunked.

And am I to gather from your list that there are no democrat sex offenders or have you simply presented a biased list?

 

[Popeye]

Your stafford study has been thoroughly discredited and debunked.

And am I to gather from your list that there are no democrat sex offenders or have you simply presented a biased list?

Democrats don't pass themselves off as the party of "family values". The hypocrisy of the Republicans is amazing, they can't wait to do, what they claim to disdain.

 

[Reliant]

Your stafford study has been thoroughly discredited and debunked.

That's "Stanford" , and it has certainly not been "debunked". It is an accepted study printed in many Journals.

And am I to gather from your list that there are no democrat sex offenders or have you simply presented a biased list?

Perhaps you could provide one with such an extensive lineup and disgustingly perverted behavior. No?

 

[Coyote]

In politics, like bad beer - scum rises to the top.

It doesn't matter whether it is the Republicans or Democrats, there is a direct correlation between the entrenched party in power and the increase in scandals within it.

So...power plus complacency corrupts?

 

[palerider]

That's "Stanford" , and it has certainly not been "debunked". It is an accepted study printed in many Journals.

Sorry, I guess the sarcasm was too subtle for you.

As to your "study". I already brought up some relavent points with regard to it but you, in standard liberal fashion, completely dodged them and went on with your spew. I will reiterate.

As the "researchers" went merrily along their way describing these characteristics to right wingers, one of their most famous examples and case studies was one Joseph Stalin. If the most prominent communist of the 20th century was right wing, exactly what constitutes left wing? They actually called Stalin, politically right wing. That, in and of itself is sufficient to discredit their findings as they (the researchers) obviously have no clear knowledge of political philosophy.

When trying to define what conservativism is, they apparently went to a couple of dictionaries, and asked some of their liberal cronies, but I saw nowhere in the study or in its references where they actually spoke to any conservatives. Exactly how does one do a credible psychological profile of a group without ever talking to members of that group?

The scales the researchers used were to determine which people were rightists and which were leftists sere the "F"scale, put together in the late 1940s by the (Marxist) Adorno and his group, and the RWA scale put together by Altemeyer. In general population samples using these scales, however, leftist voters are just about as likely to get high scores on both scales as Rightist voters. Isn't it interesting that when these scales are applied, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Musllini, and Mao all turn out to be right wingers? This would lead any rational reader to the conclusion that the traits you describe actually belong to leftists since the above people were most assuredly leftist.

If the paper accurately measures traits of any group of people, it appears that it "may" measure the traits of authoritaritan dictators and the majority of that group will certainly fall on the left.

You are a typical liberal. You have a ready bucket of spew that you are more than willing to spread around at the drop of a hat, but you, like damned near every liberal I have ever encountered are completely unable to defend any of it on an intellectual level.

Perhaps you could provide one with such an extensive lineup and disgustingly perverted behavior. No?

Personally, I am not interested enough in the sex lives of individual democrats to even consider putting together such a list. Don't you find it ironic, however, that some democrat was interested enough considering that democrats claim that such things are private matters?

Aside from that, considering the facts that groups like nambla find acceptance and support in the democrat party, and that democrats are far more keen on registering guns than sex offenders, and that democrats work hard to assure that porn is available on public library computers, and that democrats give standing ovations to their sex offenders on the floor of the house (Gerry Studds, who admitted to having sexual relations with a 17-year-old male page), it may be that your list represents the only sex offenders who are not democrats.

 

[Popeye]

Personally, I am not interested enough in the sex lives of individual democrats to even consider putting together such a list. Don't you find it ironic, however, that some democrat was interested enough considering that democrats claim that such things are private matters?

That's because you can't put together a list anywhere near that extensive. One thing for sure, where there's a Republican who professes "family values", sooner or later you'll find him in a hotel room or bathroom stall with his boyfriend.

 

[Coyote]

Aside from that, considering the facts that groups like nambla find acceptance and support in the democrat party,

This is one thing that really bugs me - NAMBLA is always trotted out when conservatives argue with liberals.

NAMBLA does not find acceptance nor support in the Democrat party nor I believe - in any other party. I defy you to show me a single example where it is supported.

NAMBLA is a tiny group who's membership - at most - numbers 1000 members. It's supposed influence on politics and social policies is blown way out of proportion simply because it is so disgusting it makes a perfect example for the Right to trot out every so often.

What the Right will typically bring up is that the ACLU (icon of "the left") supports NAMBLA - ie - supports their agenda and their activities. This is a total lie. What the ACLU argued in a very narrow and specific case - is that NAMBLA (disgusting as they are) have a right - like the KKK, the Westboro Baptists, and Neo-Nazi's - to free speech. In particular - in this case - a horrendous crime was committed. NAMBLA literature was found in the perpetrators apartment. People wanted to sue NAMBLA for shared responsibility in the crime. This is no different then trying to sue gun manufacturers for crimes committed with guns. Free speech is not the same as free action and you may despise the message but once you start clamping down, where do you stop and still retain a free society?

 

[palerider]

This is one thing that really bugs me - NAMBLA is always trotted out when conservatives argue with liberals.

NAMBLA does not find acceptance nor support in the Democrat party nor I believe - in any other party. I defy you to show me a single example where it is supported.

NAMBLA is a tiny group who's membership - at most - numbers 1000 members. It's supposed influence on politics and social policies is blown way out of proportion simply because it is so disgusting it makes a perfect example for the Right to trot out every so often.

What the Right will typically bring up is that the ACLU (icon of "the left") supports NAMBLA - ie - supports their agenda and their activities. This is a total lie. What the ACLU argued in a very narrow and specific case - is that NAMBLA (disgusting as they are) have a right - like the KKK, the Westboro Baptists, and Neo-Nazi's - to free speech. In particular - in this case - a horrendous crime was committed. NAMBLA literature was found in the perpetrators apartment. People wanted to sue NAMBLA for shared responsibility in the crime. This is no different then trying to sue gun manufacturers for crimes committed with guns. Free speech is not the same as free action and you may despise the message but once you start clamping down, where do you stop and still retain a free society?

Are you going to argue that the democrats didn't give Gerry Studds a standing ovation on the floor of the house? This congressman admitted a sexual relationship with a 17 year old boy and suggested that everyone should butt out as it was a matter between him and the boy. Excuse me, but isn't that sort of thing what nambla is all about?

 

[palerider]

That's because you can't put together a list anywhere near that extensive. One thing for sure, where there's a Republican who professes "family values", sooner or later you'll find him in a hotel room or bathroom stall with his boyfriend.

Like I said, considering the sorts of things the left supports, it may very well be that those on the "list" are the only sex offenders who are not democrats.

 

[Reliant]

As to your "study". I already brought up some relavent points with regard to it but you, in standard liberal fashion, completely dodged them and went on with your spew. I will reiterate.

Did you mean "relevant".

If the paper accurately measures traits of any group of people, it appears that it "may" measure the traits of authoritaritan dictators and the majority of that group will certainly fall on the left.

"Authoritarian" views are certainly not liberal views, they are a trait of conservative ideology.

Personally, I am not interested enough in the sex lives of individual democrats to even consider putting together such a list.

Because there is no list. Perversion, child molestation, and depravity seems to be another trait of conservatives.

Aside from that, considering the facts that groups like nambla find acceptance and support in the democrat party,

Up until last year one would be hard pressed to see a difference between the Republican Congress and NAMBLA. In fact, Republicans probably make up the majority of NAMBLA membership. All one needs to do is look at Republicans like Mark Foley to see correlations between NAMBLA ideology and conservatism.
Now, you seem to be a good Republican. Just out of morbid curiosity, what's your preference, little boys or little girls?

 

[FRYandBENDER]

It is pretty disheartening to see where this thread started and where it ended up. Any one who says that "this" or "that" group is x, y, or z whether talking about conservatives or liberals is more a part of the problem, and less a part of the solution. Both ideologies have their good points, but overwhelmingly both ideologies are becoming less and less lucid. I'm still waiting for the normal people who just want to live their lives to stand up, get involved and take the blanket that the left and right are tugging on away from them so we can take care of business.

You ever notice how the issues that are fought over never seem to go away? Our politicians are useless and we have people complaining about TV personalities and authors like they're the real problem. Who gives a rat's ass what Anne Coulter says? Oh, she hurt your feelings? So what? Same with Moore, Chompsky, or Rosie O'Donnel. Its like they've given us a whole new set of people to get upset about and take the focus off of them, our government.

Partisan bickering is a dead give away that maybe you shouldn't be involved in helping this country decide on how to handle issues and that you are only interested in seeing things run how you see fit, without consideration for others who have a different point of view.

 

[palerider]

Did you mean "relevant".

Maybe you could find some punctuation errrors as well? I guess you score your points where you can.

"Authoritarian" views are certainly not liberal views, they are a trait of conservative ideology.

Explain then, how it is that the most notorious authoritian despots of the 20th century have all been leftists.

Because there is no list. Perversion, child molestation, and depravity seems to be another trait of conservatives.

Like I said, considering the sort of things the left supports, your list probably represents the only sex offenders in the country who are not democrats.

Up until last year one would be hard pressed to see a difference between the Republican Congress and NAMBLA. In fact, Republicans probably make up the majority of NAMBLA membership. All one needs to do is look at Republicans like Mark Foley to see correlations between NAMBLA ideology and conservatism.

Mark Foley sent emails. Gerry Studds (D) admitted to a sexual relationship with a 17 year old boy to which he was given a standing ovation by his fellow democrats on the floor of the house. nambla would be proud.

We probably shouldn't forget the gay whore house that was operating out of Barney Frank's home either.

Now, you seem to be a good Republican. Just out of morbid curiosity, what's your preference, little boys or little girls?

Once again, you demonstrate that you don't have a clue. I am not a republican. And my preference is rather limited. My preference is the woman I have been married to for the past 40 years.

 

[Popeye]

Once again, you demonstrate that you don't have a clue. I am not a republican. And my preference is rather limited. My preference is the woman I have been married to for the past 40 years.

You're not a Republican? You know, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

 

[vyo476]

It is pretty disheartening to see where this thread started and where it ended up. Any one who says that "this" or "that" group is x, y, or z whether talking about conservatives or liberals is more a part of the problem, and less a part of the solution. Both ideologies have their good points, but overwhelmingly both ideologies are becoming less and less lucid. I'm still waiting for the normal people who just want to live their lives to stand up, get involved and take the blanket that the left and right are tugging on away from them so we can take care of business.

You ever notice how the issues that are fought over never seem to go away? Our politicians are useless and we have people complaining about TV personalities and authors like they're the real problem. Who gives a rat's ass what Anne Coulter says? Oh, she hurt your feelings? So what? Same with Moore, Chompsky, or Rosie O'Donnel. Its like they've given us a whole new set of people to get upset about and take the focus off of them, our government.

Partisan bickering is a dead give away that maybe you shouldn't be involved in helping this country decide on how to handle issues and that you are only interested in seeing things run how you see fit, without consideration for others who have a different point of view.

This was an outstanding post.