Palin 'Doesn't Know' If Abortion Clinic Bombers Are Terrorists

[XCALIDEM]

ahh how cute!

 

[Libsmasher]

Well, how about we do this..lets equate abortion clinic bombers, the actions of which you claim are done for political purposes, with Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground... Their bombings were also carried out for political purposes, their bombings were also an attempt to save lives (from the Vietnam war). However, you've had no trouble at all referring to Ayers as a domestic terrorist.

Personally I think both fit the definition of domestic terrorists but apparently your rather extreme right wing politics is getting in the way of you making a similar judgment.

So, let me get this straight..In your mind, Ayers and the Weather Underground were domestic terrorists but those individuals and groups that carry out abortion clinic bombings aren't. That is just the height of hypocrisy on your part, not to mention you appear in your posts to be making a not so thinly veiled attempt to justify bombing, maiming and killing abortion clinic workers. How sick is that?

Well, well, well. I'll be damned. An obamabot who actually wants to debate. Rarer than a hen's tooth. And of all people, YOU. Let me savor the moment ..........

First, I did NOT say bombing abortion mills is a political act, but rather an ethical act. As for the charge of hypocrisy, I can reverse that and call YOU a hypocrit - you have no problem with ayers, but call abortion mill bombing terrorism. Let's look at it in detail, because as I said, an attempt to give an all-encompassing definition of "terrorism" fails - you have to analyze each specific act. Ayers attempted to blow up the Capitol - sort of like a latter-day Guy Fawkes. In doing so, he could have killed innocent tourists, and even congressmen who opposed the war. But ALLLLLLLLL the people in an abortion mill, one way or another, are UP TO THEIR ARMPITS IN THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT LIVES, literally, and figuratively.

One other thing: NO PRO-ABORTIONIST HAS ANY STANDING TO CALL ANYONE ELSE'S BEHAVIOR "SICK".

 

[Libsmasher]

Better yet, why don't we ALL agree that setting off bombs is nothing but the actions of cowardly scumbags, and needs to be renounced, by everyone, no matter who does it, or what their 'reasons' are?

No, let's not do that unless we are committed, credible pacifists. Violent force is justified as a defense against people who are themsleves killing other people.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Well, well, well. I'll be damned. An obamabot who actually wants to debate. Rarer than a hen's tooth. And of all people, YOU. Let me savor the moment ..........

First, I did NOT say bombing abortion mills is a political act, but rather an ethical act. As for the charge of hypocrisy, I can reverse that and call YOU a hypocrit - you have no problem with ayers, but call abortion mill bombing terrorism. Let's look at it in detail, because as I said, an attempt to give an all-encompassing definition of "terrorism" fails - you have to analyze each specific act. Ayers attempted to blow up the Capitol - sort of like a latter-day Guy Fawkes. In doing so, he could have killed innocent tourists, and even congressmen who opposed the war. But ALLLLLLLLL the people in an abortion mill, one way or another, are UP TO THEIR ARMPITS IN THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT LIVES, literally, and figuratively.

One other thing: NO PRO-ABORTIONIST HAS ANY STANDING TO CALL ANYONE ELSE'S BEHAVIOR "SICK".

Can I go shoot you and just call it a "ethical act" Maybe go take Out Bush and Dick, I can call that Ethical acts as well, then they would be ok with you.

You support terrorism, just say it. You support Pro Life Terrorist . Eric Rudolph's bomb killed 2 and wounded 111 others, But its ok he was doing the Ethical thing I am sure to you. I am sure you are fine that he bombed a Gay and Lesbian night club as well, for Ethical Reasons.

I am glad I am not on the right, I would be ashamed to have you speaking for my side.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

No, let's not do that unless we are committed, credible pacifists. Violent force is justified as a defense against people who are themsleves killing other people.

So you don't think palestinians are Terrorist then, as Israel is killing them , so therefor its ethically ok right?

 

[Popeye]

Well, well, well. I'll be damned. An obamabot who actually wants to debate. Rarer than a hen's tooth. And of all people, YOU. Let me savor the moment ..........

First, I did NOT say bombing abortion mills is a political act, but rather an ethical act. As for the charge of hypocrisy, I can reverse that and call YOU a hypocrit - you have no problem with ayers, but call abortion mill bombing terrorism. Let's look at it in detail, because as I said, an attempt to give an all-encompassing definition of "terrorism" fails - you have to analyze each specific act. Ayers attempted to blow up the Capitol - sort of like a latter-day Guy Fawkes. In doing so, he could have killed innocent tourists, and even congressmen who opposed the war. But ALLLLLLLLL the people in an abortion mill, one way or another, are UP TO THEIR ARMPITS IN THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT LIVES, literally, and figuratively.

I have already said Ayers' and the Weather Underground's past actions meet the definition of domestic terrorism. It's the right wing's rather ludicrous attempt to somehow use those 40 year old actions to attack Obama that I have a problem with..and if polls are any indication, the majority of the American people agree with me.

According to Wikipedia there have been 7 people killed in violence (shootings and bombings) directed towards abortion clinics....none since 1998, though the violence has continued. Of the 7 killed, they include 3 doctors, 2 receptionists, a security guard, and a clinic escort.

Lets leave aside the doctors, since I'm sure in your twisted mind you somehow believe they deserved it..for performing a legal medical procedure no less. What about the receptionists, the security guard, the clinic escort..are their murders ethical? For that matter, are any murders ethical?

You're not only claiming the violence against abortion providers isn't terrorism, you're actually attempting to justify it. Advocating or justifying the violent breaking of the law, not to mention murder, is wrong... I don't care how much extreme right rhetoric you put forth trying to claim otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

 

[Dr.Who]

Anoher stupid post.

palin was not asked of bombing abortion clinics was terrorism. She was asked if bombing them was terrorism under a specific definition which defined attacks against government facilities as terrorism. Since abortion clinics are not governemnt facilities it woujld not be so easy to define those attacks as terrorism "under this definition"

Nevertheless she clearly said that harming innocent people was unacceptable.

So if someone wants to go after her because they know that she is forced to mince words by a media that would crucify her for any excuse and found one here but at the same time give Obama and Biden a virtual complete pass then they are just nuts.

 

[Libsmasher]

You support terrorism, just say it. You support Pro Life Terrorist . Eric Rudolph's bomb killed 2 and wounded 111 others, But its ok he was doing the Ethical thing I am sure to you. I am sure you are fine that he bombed a Gay and Lesbian night club as well, for Ethical Reasons.

I am glad I am not on the right, I would be ashamed to have you speaking for my side.

You support terrorism, just say it. You support the Pro Abortion Terrorist "physcian" whose ancient Hypocratic states "do no harm", but who nonetheless enriched himself with the grisly practice of dismembering THOUSANDS of fetuses.

I am glad I am not on the left, I would be ashamed to have you speaking for my side

 

[Bunz]

Once again, we see that to a liberal, lieing is like breathing.

Dont bring that garbage to me. Save the childish banter for someone else. I am not interested.

The "religious ideology" canard is the oldest of the pro-abortion lies

Huh? terrorism for religious influences that dont involve abortion are by far the exception to the "norm".
I didnt mention abortion at all in my post. But my application applies the same no matter what thier specific religious cause.

- ALL KINDS of people oppose abortion. I, eg, am an AGNOSTIC, and I oppose it.

Yes Libs, I am aware that people of all backgrounds oppose the choices people want to make with thier bodies.
Are you somehow justifying abortion clinic violence?

 

[Libsmasher]

I have already said Ayers' and the Weather Underground's past actions meet the definition of domestic terrorism. It's the right wing's rather ludicrous attempt to somehow use those 40 year old actions to attack Obama that I have a problem with..and if polls are any indication, the majority of the American people agree with me.

The attempt to wave aside Obama's stupidity and lack of judgement with the "40 year old" mantra is a gutless and cowardly strawman evasion that has been punctured EVEN in the lib media - the issue is not when the bombings happened, but rather obama's substantive association with an >>>UNREPENTENT<<< bomber.

According to Wikipedia there have been 7 people killed in violence (shootings and bombings) directed towards abortion clinics....none since 1998, though the violence has continued. Of the 7 killed, they include 3 doctors, 2 receptionists, a security guard, and a clinic escort.

Lets leave aside the doctors, since I'm sure in your twisted mind you somehow believe they deserved it..for performing a legal medical procedure no less. What about the receptionists, the security guard, the clinic escort..are their murders ethical? For that matter, are any murders ethical?

Like saying the concentration commandant should be hung, but the guards should be let go. And it's amazing that you weep only for the handful of people who died while operating the machinery of abortion death - when their victims number 50 million and counting. And you call "twisted mind"???!

You're not only claiming the violence against abortion providers isn't terrorism, you're actually attempting to justify it. Advocating or justifying the violent breaking of the law, not to mention murder, is wrong... I don't care how much extreme right rhetoric you put forth trying to claim otherwise.

I don't advocate overturning the rule of law for trivial or transient reasons. And the friggin LAST people on earth who can lecture me on morality is leftwingers. None of you HAVE any morality - the only institution you admire is the state, so it's not surprising you would confuse what is morally wrong with what is illegal. There are ALL KINDS OF LAWS that have been immoral - eg the Fugtive Slave Act. Righteous people throughout history have had to go outside the law, and the Abortion Holocaust, now approaching the all time worst destruction of humanity - the 20th century Communist Holocaust, can certainly be considered an appropriate reason.

 

[Pandora]

I just watched the clip IN FULL and she says anyone who does those sorts of things also are terrorists

so its a non issue.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

You support terrorism, just say it. You support the Pro Abortion Terrorist "physcian" whose ancient Hypocratic states "do no harm", but who nonetheless enriched himself with the grisly practice of dismembering THOUSANDS of fetuses.

I am glad I am not on the left, I would be ashamed to have you speaking for my side

proof that you dont have a clue what terrorism is.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

I just watched the clip IN FULL and she says anyone who does those sorts of things also are terrorists

so its a non issue.

so why not post it? or a link ? in any case, a clear yes would have worked and LIbs still supports it here...so still a issue in that regard.

 

[Pandora]

so why not post it? or a link ? in any case, a clear yes would have worked and LIbs still supports it here...so still a issue in that regard.

she has a wierd way of speaking

she had to put in at least three "and also" and a few other words

I saw the interview in full on the news, not on a youtube clip. Had I seen it on a youtube clip I would have put it up.

but I am not going to go look for it, I saw it and I am glad she considered them both terrorist acts. I would have been really disapointed if she didnt.

my posting it or not posting it wont change your mind or any other obama follower so no need for me to go try and dig up the full interview.

the person who put up the youtube on this knew two things

obama supporters were in fact stupid enough to not wonder why it was cut in a strange way and they wouldnt bother trying to find out what she really said.

and I am smart enough to know the truth does not matter

 

[pocketfullofshells]

she has a wierd way of speaking

she had to put in at least three "and also" and a few other words

I saw the interview in full on the news, not on a youtube clip. Had I seen it on a youtube clip I would have put it up.

but I am not going to go look for it, I saw it and I am glad she considered them both terrorist acts. I would have been really disapointed if she didnt.

my posting it or not posting it wont change your mind or any other obama follower so no need for me to go try and dig up the full interview.

the person who put up the youtube on this knew two things

obama supporters were in fact stupid enough to not wonder why it was cut in a strange way and they wouldnt bother trying to find out what she really said.

and I am smart enough to know the truth does not matter

change my mind that she is soooo not ready for e white house ? nope
but on the issue of if she was unwilling to call a terroist who bombs clinics a terrorist i would give you. I will take your word still, but would still ahve like to see the video.