Pandora
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pocketfullofshells
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Yes becuse we know the actions have all to do with Obama....unless of course we used our brains....
North Korea got nukes under Bush and fired missles under Bush, tested nukes under Bush.
Under Obama has tested a nuke and fired missle...But also watching as a new leader is about to take over thus is sabber rattling for internal reasons....it has nothing to do with Obama. It has to do with passing the torch to the son, and showing its people strengh while they do it. Its danger is in the passing of power , and not due to Obama...Things are more tense now, but it has nothing to do with Obama..I think he has handled it very well.
and as for Iran?
how has it got worse?you have people in the street calling for new leadership, voting for new leaders, and dieing to see those results happen. People in the street calling for reform. Its what we wanted. Its horrible that the people have to do it, and very sad that some have fallen. but its what most likey has to happen to see change in Iran...I am sure in your warped head, if McCain or Bush was in office, they would not have rigged the Election...but we all know thats not true.
but please expand on your little theory...lets here more. I await this gem
pocketfullofshells
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I like this one better....its a cover but more my style...not so much the video, but the song
ok seems to not work, so link lol
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GneO16PEvtU
pocketfullofshells
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Cater should have been more like Regan ...dont send the delta force in to get our guys out...give Iran guns in exchange for them.
But he is Billy Jack Obama! Calm, deliberate, not looking for a fight. That must come from his mothers side.
And of course he's also a lot like this guy... THE GREATEST!
Of course they did. Interesting that we may only said that Iran 'had it coming' as pertains to the Soviets, but not the Americans, who acted like cowardly *****es no? Such that MY people had to sneak yours out.
Why don't you be a good dear, and TELL ME what happened to the Jews in WWII?
I only stated that I agreed with how the Soviets dealt with their enemies, I did not champion their system. The bread lines were a result of communism, which, as everyone including the libtards here know, was a massive failure. Communism has never been able to feed its own people. Never has and never shall. Now, don't start yapping at me about China and its 'communism'. China is as communist as I am a liberal.
Yes, I would stick with our *ROTFLMAO @ 'free'* healthcare, for it benefits the citizens of the State, which in turn benefits the State itself with happy, industrious people.
Dependant upon my nation's needs, I would decide which direction to go when it comes to taxes. In order to keep relief for my people, I would try to keep them down. Lower taxes makes for a prosperous society, BUT if I wish to keep the nation from running into dept, thus endangering future generations, then I would have no choice but to raise taxes. The most expensive component of this would be our healthcare system, as it is today our greatest expense by far. Nothing else comes even close. I would though remove the current taxes on our gas, thus allowing more cuts to costs of running a business, allowing a greater chance of survival, which is good for the overall economy. A healthy economy results in a happy citizenry, and therefore the State would survive.
I am on the fence with the issue of guns. I do believe in the right of all citizens to protect themselves from those who would ignore such gun laws as I see we have in Canada today. I have watched my country spend $1 BILLION on our gun registration laws, only to see gun-related crimes shoot through the roof. The only solution for this is to tighten our border with the USA, since that is where all of the guns come from in the first place. Criminals sneak them across the border and sell them here. I would make the very attempt of smuggling a gun into Canada a crime punishable by death. Rest assured this would deter any future smuggling. There is also the worry that guns, in the wrong hands, would thus allow for the overthrow of the government, namely myself, something I of course cannot allow, for my ass is sacred. I do not believe my citizenry so savage as to overthrow the government which is why I am on the fence with gun control. I am leaning somewhat towards the ownership of guns by the citizenry, for this would also allow instant defence of the nation from any foreign invader. Imagine, 32 million armed Canadians? It all depends upon the makeup of the Canadian citizenry. Of course there would be licensing requirements, and a wait period whilst the credentials of each citizen are checked. The EASIEST solution would be to ban them outright, but I do NOT want to be giving criminals the easy advantage. I would be required to vastly increase my country's paramilitary forces, secret police etc., but this costs money. Easier to allow the upstanding citizenry the ability to defend themselves. A tough call.
Pandora
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I am very ashamed of how we dealt with Iran during carter. I have much distain for him.
I personally don’t like death, I don’t believe in the death penalty except in very rare cases I don’t believe in abortion either except in very rare cases but if someone is attacking me or mine, I say rip their eye balls out and that’s what we should have done to Iran.
Well it was not just the Jewish people it was gypsies and mentally handicapped people. But what happened to the Jewish people is the most well known. They were rounded up and taken to concentration camps and over 6 million of them were burned in ovens or killed in other ways. I find that terribly sad.
OK, I did confuse the two. Please name the most famous Fascist leader who you admire and also the worst thing about that leader. Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
The national health care worries me. But I think we are heading your way. Fortunately for me, I hate doctors and usually cure myself
Death penalty for smuggling a gun, oh my! You would be a very tough leader. Gun control is another thing that scares me. Here in the states all the places where you can’t have guns, they have the highest gun crime rates. People always want what they can’t have and its easier to target someone you know can not defend themselves. The places with the least gun control has the least gun crimes and the least crimes to people who might be packing a gun. Mind you I don’t think everyone needs a semi automatic assault riffle but the right to have a hand gun for protection and a shot gun for hunting or riffle for hunting I think is a basic human right.
I do thank you for taking so much time answering my questions. I am learning a lot. All I ever knew about fascists was from the book Liberal Fascism
Let me get this straight. For 6 years under the Roosevelt Administration, the United States spent money trying to address this problem and failed. It was not until the drought ended that things turned around.
What exactly was a success about 6 years of continued drought, other than the fact that loads of money was spent?
Sadly.
Carter was a pussy who taught the world that the USA could indeed be pushed around, thus setting the stage for future crimes against Americans abroad. Ever notice how NO ONE ever pushed around Soviet citizens abroad? No country was dumb enough to allow Soviet citizens to be touched, for it would invite swift retaliation.
I believe completely in the death penalty. What greater deterrent can there be against violent crime? Thus become more hesitant to commit a violent crime when they learn the ramifications of their actions would be their death.
I am curious, since no one ever mentions the fact that far, far more Christians died in WWII than did Jews. I would also require that you provide proof that 6 million Jews died at a time when there were not even that many Jews in all of Europe. Germany alone had only 300,000 Jews, so how did the number come up to 6 million? How is it there are now MORE Holocaust survivors today than there were after WWII? INteresting that ever since the ruling regarding the 'return' of 'Jewish monies' to the Jews in order to compensate them for their 'suffering', more and more 'survivors' have appeared out of the woodwork. WTF? Have you ever seen the plaques on every single one of the 'death camps'? The number of Jews killed in them keeps changing. Don't believe me? Check for yourself. I do believe Jews were murdered during the Nazi rule, but NOWHERE NEAR 6 million. Do any of you have the idea of the logistics involved in such an adventure? The cost? The sheer enormity of such an endeavour for a people fighting a world war? It cannot be done. Even Jews have admitted that much of the Holocaust was all lies, designed to ensure that the Zionist goal of a Jewish homeland was achieved via world guilt. Make the world believe that the poor Jews suffered 6 million dead, and people will be ready to give anyone any country. As I said, never happened. If people are going to whine about any suffering, please whine about those who actually suffered, the brave soldiers on both sides, the Christians, the communists etc. But, do NOT suggest that only the Jews should matter. That is an insult to the memory of everyone who had a part in the world's last great war.
I once did a Nazi salute to some ***** who was ordering me about as a joke. Another ***** I barely knew took offense to this. She basically told me that she was a Jew, and that I should **** off. I looked at her with anger, and informed her that 'so what, I am British. What is your ****ing point *****?' She claimed that the Nazi salute was an insult to the memory of her people. I calmly told her that, if not for MY people, things would have been far worse than they were, that quite possibly there WOULD indeed have been 6 million dead Jews. I told her to shut the **** up about the 'suffering of Jews' when my family sat under the daily Blitzkrieg of Junkers and Messerschmidt bombers. I told her my people suffered just as badly, so she was free to suck my balls, and to take her jewishness and stuff it up her kike asshole. She sure shut the **** up quickly.
The most famous Fascist leader I would admire would be Adolf Hitler, with Mussolini coming second, only because he was Hitler's *****. Although Hitler waged war against my family, I admire his tenacity in sticking with his ideology, damn the world. I know he did not PERSONALLY target my family, after all it was war, but I admired his genius, his ability to form Germans into a cohesive group. I admired his nationalism, is embrasure of who he was, his German roots, and his efforts to keep those roots. This is why find find liberals (hello sweetie) to be such idiots for defiling Hitler's ideology. After all, do not liberals seek to 'protect' the cultures of the other races who come to our Western countries at the expense of our own in the guise of 'multiculturalism'? What hypocrites. The other races are free to protect their own culture, but we cannot protect ours. WTF? They are doing EXACTLY as Hitler sought to do, but for the OTHER SIDE.
The national health care worries me. But I think we are heading your way. Fortunately for me, I hate doctors and usually cure myself
*ROTFLMAO*
If you are headed our way, you are in trouble. Canada has only 32 million citizens, barely a military to fund, and yet we have trouble keep this healthcare system going. yes, we have closed hospitals due to a lack of funds.
I should like to remind you that the USA already has a national health care system that is far larger than our own. It is called 'Medicare' I believe, where those with no insurance are cared for by the State. Such hypocrisy of the Americans, railing against socialised healthcare when you ALREADY HAVE IT. Yours is far, far more expensive than our own. You think things are bad now? Wait until you adopt a national healthcare program for 350 MILLION people, maintain your current military expenditures, your mass of social programs. Impossible. It cannot be done. NO ONE has that kind of money. You have been for years paying for your current system with BORROWED FUNDS, yet you wish to borrow more and more? WTF? You will be DROWNING in debt. Oh wait, you already are.
Why not the death penalty for smuggling a gun? Those who do so KNOW what those guns will be used for, therefore they are endangering the citizenry for their own monetary gain. This I would not allow. It is an insult to Canadians, whose lives I value more than that of a bloody gun smuggler.
I am well aware of those territories where guns are allowed experiencing far lower crime rates than those who have made guns illegal. It is why I am on the fence on this one, although I would ban outright the use of automatic weapons, other than for our paramilitary forces who would be used to keep order in Canada.
Tell me, do you think that the Blacks who all own guns in our Jane-Finch Corridor would start shooting things up with the presence of an armoured vehicle and large numbers of paramilitary troopers? I didn't think so.
Why, of course you are welcome my darling. All would do well to learn from me, for I know all. I am the answer to my country's problems.
I have never read the book, but I am DYING to do so because the very name is an misnomer. There can be no such thing as 'liberal fascism', but I see where they managed to gain the title.
Pandora
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Agreed!
Abortion? Where do you stand on that?
I was taught my whole life about the 6 million and I have seen many pictures, movies and interviews. Where did you learn about it and where did you learn about the Christians who died? And who killed the Christians? I do not think WW2 was all about Jewish people or that they were the only ones who suffered. My grandmother still cries when D Day anniversary rolls around as she tries to tell me the story. There was a great deal of pain for many people.
I hope you don’t get upset at me but I find it shocking that you consider Hitler as someone to admire. Though I would give you he was a great motivator to his cause. He got people to do things they never would have thought to do. He was persuasive. I have accused obama of being like Hitler in this way, a great speaker and motivator. Do you disagree that Hitler put Jews in camps? He did many speeches where he spoke about the evils of Jews exc. There is his book too. Much information out there on how he felt about Jews and how he thought ridding the world of Jews would make for a better world.
Yeah, we are screwed and with no KY
I just don’t like the death penalty at all so I can’t think its good for smuggling items, even guns.
Yeah the cover has a little smile face guy with a Hitler mustache. I am still trying to understand about you admiring Hitler. Please help me understand how we can see him so differently. I want to understand your thinking, I already understand mine.
But of course you do, for the facts are indisputable.
No abortion, unless it is absolutely medically necessary... BUT.... the non-white races are free to abort to their heart's content. We need numbers, and badly.
Of course you were 'taught' about the 6 million. The pictures, movies and interviews? Gee, who was expert at this same thing we call propaganda? Oh yes, the Nazis. Let us never forget the Soviets, who managed to make their own citizenry believe that it was the Americans who were out to conquer the world, that Americans were murderous thugs out to rip everyone's balls off for their money, although they weren't that far off from the truth about Americans.
The Christians would be all those who fought in WWII. Fare more Russians soldiers died than there were Jews in this world. No one says a thing about this. Why? It would distract the world from the 'poor Jews' rather than from the Russian people who suffered far more.
No, WWII was not about the jewish people, although the Zionist propaganda would make it seem that it was. You ARE aware that the USA refused to allow jews in? Why? They hated them as much as the Nazis did. How is that for hypocrisy? Even Canada refused to allow them here.
Any Jew that *****es at me about how they suffered, I remind them of my family in Britain, watching bombs drop around them, flattening so many cities. I would then DARE the ****ing Jew to ever bring up THEIR suffering again. Our country was literally reduced to rubble, yet it always comes back to 'oh, us poor, poor Jews!' Think about it, if not for our Spitfires, our Hurricanes, I would not exist today, so **** the Jews.
I would urge you to remember one very important quote from the great Adolf Hitler. 'History is written by the victors'. He had no idea how prophetic would be his words.
I do not get upset. I merely ridicule those who attempt to match my own with with intellectual assasination, as I have clearly done thus far on this site.
I admired Hilter for his ability to rally a defeated, and depressed people. He had grand charisma, important in a statesman. His beliefs, his goals were admirable. You would do well never to compare Obama with Hitler. That is like comparing George Washington with Napoleon Bonaparte, which is utterly ridiculous. The former is not fit to share the very plane of existence with the latter. Napoleon fought battles. Washington RAN from them.
Yes, Hitler put Jews in camps. Absolutely. He also gave the Jews plenty of time to pack u and get out. Yes, Hitler spoke of the evils of Jews. Upon review of world affairs these days, you would argue his point?
Be honest, if there were no Jews around, do you think there would be ANY strife in the Mideast? Absolutely not, other than the desire of world conquest from islam. Also, I would ask that you find out just how many world leaders hated the Jews. You would be shocked at the result of your search. Feel free to do a lookup. The next time a Jew puts a bullet through the head of a Palestinian child, try not to act surprised. I find it ironic that the
KY?
I love it. No ***** will smuggle guns again with the death penalty.
Hitler believed in the future for his people, the German race. He believed in a greater Germany, one that played a greater role on the world stage. He most obviously cared for his German people, for he introduced programs that would ensure their welfare. It is HIS programs that were adopted that allowed the USA to recover from the Depression, which is why I find it amusing that Americans vilify the very man whose ideas they stole.
Pandora
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You will be happy to know that abortion is done far more by black women than any other group and the woman Margaret Sanger who admired Hitler a great deal set up inner city abortion clinics for the reason of getting rid of black children. I don’t like abortion at all either except in medically necessary cases but for all races.
Who do you think those pictures are of? The dead people in piles all starved and bald? Who was in Auschwitz and the other camps? You don’t think it was ok to kill them and starve them do you? If he just really wanted them out he could have bussed them to some other place, Poland or where ever. And why attack other countries? He did attack other countries
You agree that Hitler put Jews in camps but just not 6 million died. How many do you think died and do you agree he gassed some, burned some in ovens and just shot some and put them in mass graves?
If there were no Muslims the Middle East would be peaceful too though. The two are like oil and water, they don’t mix well.
If white people in the USA today said to all the natives get out or die, I don’t think any of us would go but I think we probably would fight. We would die no doubt but we would die fighting not just let ourselves get taken. I can’t blame Jewish people for not leaving because someone told them to go. It was their home too like the USA is mine and everyone else who lives here.
Washington did not run he fought the British, that’s why we are Americans and not some sub division of the UK
That was in bad taste of me to say, its lubricant so sex is not so dry. It’s not as funny when I have to explain it. I guess they don’t have it in Canada
hmm I am not sure I understand how we stole anything from Hitler but I will ponder this.
I think we are off topic, if you want to make a thread we can continue there and the mods can probably move these posts to the new thread.
I intentionally avoided a few things you spoke about. I am not sure how to process it. I have never talked to anyone with your views before and I admit that I am not sure what to think.
Its my fault for asking too many questions, sorry!
Good for Miss Sanger. A woman to be honoured.
You just finished agreeing that the camps included many other than Jews. What changed your mind? Suddenly, they were all Jews? The camps did indeed have Jews, but 6 MILLION? Your entire penal industry could not handle such staggering numbers without difficulty, and we are talking about only a few camps here, so where did the number come from? EXPERTS have put the number of Jews killed in these camps at 100,000 plus. Not even quarter of a million, never million 6 million. Not only ridiculous, but IMPOSSIBLE. No country had the logistical capability to seek out every Jew in Europe, Identify them in foreign lands, capture them, transport them to camps within the borders of the new Reich, then kill them wholesale. The Jews, AND ALL NON-JEW prisoners were starved when discovered. Why the concern for ONLY the Jew prisoners? WTF? So, the others were unimportant? I see. Allow me to explain their starvation. Germany was at war, therefore supplies were at a minimum. We British know about such things, for if not for our mighty navy, we would have suffered the same fate. Germany was being destroyed from all sides Food was not only rationed, but it was becoming scarce. I would suggest you read about the Nazi siege of Leningrad. Not only were the people starved, but they resorted to eating THEIR DEAD. Don't believe me? Look it up. Leningrad was being pounded, just as Germany was. Imagine you are the leader of a modern state, and you had limited food. Who would you feed first? Your soldiers and your people. The prisoners come last. In fact, even Allied airmen have reported going on bombing missions which were later discovered to have been responsible for the destruction of many food shipments to these camps. Now, were you the leader of an Allied nation, would YOU admit you fukked up, causing the Jews to suffer as a result? Remember, these people were ASKED to leave. Had they done so, they would not have suffered their fates. I don't understand the difficulty here. Many countries have people who have left their homelands en masse, even if in the form of refugees, they STILL GOT OUT. What was so special about the Jews that they could not? That's easy. They did not wish to leave their worldly goods, their 'wealth' as it were. Remember, Jews exist as long as their is money, or wealth to be had. Would a druggie leave his drugs if asked? No, so why would you ask a Jew to leave his money?
Hitler attacked other countries that BELONGED TO THE GERMAN PEOPLE. territories that were taken frmo the Germany people via the Treaty of Versailles. I do recall the US not liking the idea of the Mexicans taking Texas, so they fought a war over that territory. Where's the difference? California rings a bell?
There have been estimates by EXPERTS that between 100,000 to 500,000 Jews perished. I cannot state with complete accuracy as to how many were killed by the Nazis, but I believe the 100,000 count to be correct.
No one was 'gassed'. This theory has already been discredited by chemical experts who visited EVERY CAMP, only to find not a single shred of evidence to back this up. Not a trace of gas was found, as only such can be found in the walls of the 'gas chambers'. Also, how were the Jews gassed without the guards GASSING THEMSELVES? Gas chambers, in order to work properly and safely in the camps, they have to be HERMETICALLY SEALED. These were not, which even the 'witnesses' claim. The chemical experts laughed at this, stating it was impossible to have such chambers without killing everyone else in the camp, including the guards. There is also the fact that such hermetically sealed chambers are prohibitively expensive, which has actually been used by some states in your country as a reason for avoiding the use of gas chambers at all. How does a country, at war with half the fukking world, afford such systems? WTF? How do they MAINTAIN such a system with everyone out to destroy them?
You DO know that people burn their dead, yes? this is called CREMATION. You DO know that there was a problem with disease in the camps yes? Now, tell me, how does one stop disease from spreading from the dead? That's right, they burn the bodies. I would ask you to review ANY documentation regarding the incarceration of Jews in the camps, and you will learn that this indeed did happen. Why was the Red Cross kept out of the camps immediately after their liberation? WTF?
Yet, they are pretty much the same people. Destroy both, and you have world peace. Trust me.
There's a HUGE difference here sweetie. The USA was YOUR land. That is not the case for the Jews. They were foreigners in someone else's land. Your people are not. You are ALREADY IN YOUR HOMELAND. HUGE difference. The two instances do not even begin to compare. Germany was NOT their home. Germany belonged to the GERMAN PEOPLE, just as the Jews run around screaming that Israel belongs to them. You see my point here? Your native comparison is utterly ridiculous.
Washington did not run he fought the British, that’s why we are Americans and not some sub division of the UK
Sweetiepie, darliekins, he RAN. Trust me. This pissed off the British, because the fukker refused to stand and fight. He was a GUERILLA warrior. His style exactly matches that of today's Taliban, or the insurgents of Iraq. Hit and run. There was not an army on this earth that was capable of standing face to face with the British army, and surviving to tell the tale. Why do you think the world speaks English today? Because everyone decided 'oh, it is the most beautiful of languages! Let's speak it!'? Get real. The world speaks it because much of it was FORCED to. You do not seriously believe that bull**** about a ragtag group of farmers taking on the mightiest Empire the world had ever seen? Please. The British OWNED you all, that is until the arrival of the French. You DO realise that Britain was virtually at war with much of the world at the time, yes? The safety of the homeland was their prime concern. By comparison, a ***** colony like America was utterly irrelevant. It was difficult to be everywhere at once. Remember the French fleet at the back of Cornwallis at Yorktown? Where was the British fleet? That's right, back home protecting Britain from every single navy that wanted her ass. You exist today as a separate nation only because the British ALLOWED it. Never forget it.
Sex? What's that?
hmm I am not sure I understand how we stole anything from Hitler but I will ponder this.
I think we are off topic, if you want to make a thread we can continue there and the mods can probably move these posts to the new thread.
I intentionally avoided a few things you spoke about. I am not sure how to process it. I have never talked to anyone with your views before and I admit that I am not sure what to think.
Its my fault for asking too many questions, sorry![/QUOTE]
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Pandora
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I was taught 6 million so I guess I always figured 6 million Jews and hundreds of thousands of others like Polish, Gypsy exc. I will do a search to find out how many people are in American prisons today through out the US. And see what I can come up with. I have never thought about the things you are bringing up. I don’t think the concern is only for Jewish prisoners, lots of people lost their lives. I certainly cant be cold to the fact that they were targeted and killed. If the number is 5 thousand or 6 million, they were targeted and killed.
I never thought about the lack of food, I always assumed they starved them because they hated them.
Hitler attacked France and England; they were never Germany’s land before. He attacked other lands too but I am not sure what ones was once part of Germany, I just know France and England was not.
What experts are saying 100,000 ? where do they get the information? Are you reading this from websites or books? I also never thought about the gas chambers and the seals. Where did you learn about this? Who were the chemical experts who visited every camp and where can I read their findings?
I know that people burn their dead but these were ovens, like set up for it.
Where did you learn that the Red Cross was kept out of the camps immediately after liberation? Is this on a Red Cross website or??
OK my comparison was not so good I should have used Israel and the Jewish people there
OK now growing up I learned how brave Washington was. Times have changed and liberals who dislike our country are now running the show. They teach the kids how evil the founders were and they were slave owners exc. If Washington was a puss, the liberal teachers would love to teach about it. Where are you learning this about our first president? I did learn they fought like the Natives. Hiding in trees and ambushing the British but never that they ran. What history books are you getting this from?
Now I know you have sex in Canada!
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