Genocide Joe is going to be the biggest loser.

Gabriel_Bell said:
I am an actual capitalist, by which mean that I use investments to generate a majority of my income. I believe that capitalism is an excellent way to generate income. But I also am aware that capitalism must be regulated and modified to ensure that all members of a society can get the basic necessities. Not everyone can be a capitalist. A majority of Americans are NOT capitalists, in fact.

Venezuela has been a very corrupt society since the early 1900's when huge oil deposits began to be exploited. Oil is by nature quite easy to be exploited. The is a hole in the ground and a machine pumping it out. The gauges that measure the flow are by necessity adjustable, because the viscosity of the oil is variable.

Social mobility in Western Europe is higher in every country but Portugal than it is in the US. It is impossible to have a state that is 100% capitalist, where all the highways and streets are toll roads, for example. Democratic Socialism when used with ombudsmen and honest civil servants results in a better life for all members of a society.
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Capitalism does not make a nation great. Seeking, honoring, and obeying God makes nations great.
 
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mark francis said:
Capitalism does not make a nation great. Seeking, honoring, and obeying God makes nations great.
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Can you point out a nation that has achieved greatness by "seeking, honoring and obeying God"?

Ireland seems to have achieved greatness AFTER it ceased to be ruled by the Holy Mother Church in situations like the availability of contraceptives, making divorce legal, allowing gay people to marry and have abortions.

Again. capitalism is a useful tool, and can easily can be misused. The Christian Church outlawed the lending of money at interest. That is clearly mentioned in the Bible in several places. The Jews also outlawed this. But it was not illegal for Jews to lend money to Christians, and so the House of Rothschild became influential.

If money cannot be lent at interest, then no one has any reason to lend money. They are better off hiding it in the mattress or under a convenient rock.

No nation has achieved prosperity without permitting capitalism or moneylending to be legal. Muslim nations also ban lending money at interest, which explains why most of them are so poor.
It is amazing to read about the many subtle and clever tricks that the Saudis and the Emiris have devised to get paid for investing without seeming to charge interest.
 
Boris Norris said:
Let's not stray into another tangent. You made another outrageous claims and you lied.
Btw. 75% of Mexicans are Christians.
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Mexicans tend to be rather lax Catholics. There is no way that 75% are devout Christians. But there are very few empty churches in Mexico. There is a saying in Spanish that applies to both religion and legal matters' "Se obedece, pero no se cumple". Which means "One obeys, but does not comply". Basically it means that the Church and the government are acknowledged to exist, but one should not pay much attention to them.
 
mark francis said:
Heathen nations are not places that free pople sneak across borders to immigrate to.
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Can you name a "heathen nation"? India? Nepal? Indonesia is 87% Muslim, and also allows Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Confucianisn and Hunduism. But it does not allow anyone to advocate atheism, at least officially.
Do people attempt to sneak away from Bhutan or Malayasia?
 
Gabriel_Bell said:
Can you name a "heathen nation"? India? Nepal? Indonesia is 87% Muslim, and also allows Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Confucianisn and Hunduism. But it does not allow anyone to advocate atheism, at least officially.
Do people attempt to sneak away from Bhutan or Malayasia?
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Does North Korea appeal to you? Would you consider moving there to get away from the tens of millions of conservative American patriots supporting President Trump?
 
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