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Had it of been pictures for some magazine I would agree even without proof that she sold the pictures and interview.

its a news show, I have never heard of anyone from CNN FOX PMSNBC or any of the other channels paying for an interview before, I would not assume they were paid just becasue you dont like the person. Actually I have heard on some of those same shows people say they were not being paid for the interview and the interviewers say they have never paid to interview someone.

you are also taking the quote from a slime bucket liberal and putting it on a person not at all connected to that party or ever having a history of doing that sort of thing,

but I admit I do expect that sort of thing from you

The quote was simply an illustration of the principle that you don't give away something valuable for nothing, that's all. It doesn't mean I don't "like" Palin, as a matter of fact, I don't even know her, so why would I care?

Fact is, she got three hundred grand for being in the news. That must be a big help for a teen mom.
 
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Its possible that Bristol sold pictures to a magazine, that does happen all the time so it seems reasonable

Well I am glad you came around to see the reality of the situation. The same as she probably got some sort of compensation for her Greta interview. I cant imagine she didnt.

I just wonder if this is simply a coincidence when it comes to her future mother in law going from a public defender to the Johnnie Cochran of Alaska in terms of legal representation.

I dont know, but it is an interesting question.
 
Comparing Hillary being an ugly prude homosexual to a man F&@%ing his daughters are no where near on the same scale.
Look, I am not defending what SNL did. I am not now, and I didnt when the clip came out. Cant you and I simply get over this?
And you did not defend Palin on the Ashley Judd thing; you were defending your lifestyle and your state. IMO
Well that is your perception, but this is an issue where Sarah and I agree, another would be ANWR, and a few other non-national issues. You see, I agree or disagree with politicians based on my own opinions. I dont blindly support a candidate and everything they stand for. Even the candidates that I have worked to campaign for, I disagree with some of thier views.
You going on and on about the evil's of Sarah Palin would be like me going on and on about the evils of Michael Moore.
No it wouldnt be like that at all. In any shape. Michael Moore makes movies, Sarah Palin is the Chief Executive of my state. There are huge differences. Michael Moore is there to sell movies, Sarah Palin is there to set public policies. Certainly you can see the difference.
Neither runs the country. On the other hand... egg head does run the country, running it right into the ground to be more accurate. The nut cases on this forum who spend their day picking at Sarah Palin and her kids while neither Sarah Palin nor her kids run the country is pretty stupid.
The same could be said for those who nitpick Nancy Pelosi and her daughter, of which a certain few members of this forum have taken issue with.
Obama, on the other hand…. the things that he does directly affect all of our lives daily. It seems reasonable to complain about the person who is screwing up your country more than complaining about the kids of the person who has no power when it comes to running your country. You have an exception because she does run your state. But talking about her kids or her personal life.. I have not figured out what that has to do with the effects on you.
You see Pandora, it is all relative. People are going to be attacked for legit and illegitimate reasons when they are in the public eye. It is part of being famous. This has not changed for generations. The children should be exempt from most scrutiny until they make themselves public figures, either through thier own choosing or through thier indirect actions.

The Bush girls did through thier criminal underage drinking.
Bristol did through her public interviews
Al Gore's son DUI
Nancy Pelosi's daughter
etc.

The fact of the matter is that what drives this sort of interest is the marketplace. Because Americans eat it up when politicians kids get themselves into trouble or at least compromising situations. Because it shows a few things, ultimatly it debunks the entire holierthanthough notion that is pervasive on both sides and it adds fodder and an excuse to attack thier parents when often times they had zero to do with it, despite the ability to portray a hypocritical view point. We are all guilty of this, me included.
 
Well I am glad you came around to see the reality of the situation. The same as she probably got some sort of compensation for her Greta interview. I cant imagine she didnt.

I just wonder if this is simply a coincidence when it comes to her future mother in law going from a public defender to the Johnnie Cochran of Alaska in terms of legal representation.

I dont know, but it is an interesting question.

Im not comin around to see it. I am just saying the picture part seems reasonable.

I think to insinuate that a news channel not known for buying interviews paid her for an interview with out any proof is sick twisted disgusting and typical!!!!

But selling pictures to a magazine known for buying pictures is not so unreasonable.

Well the attorney part could be a lot of things, Palin being one of them. But I saw the Palin tax returns and they aren’t rich like the Obama’s and they give a good amount to charity unlike the Obama’s so its not like they have a lot of money to pay for high power attorneys.

But some rich republican somewhere who felt they got a raw deal and that the future mother in law to the daughter of the ex candidate for vp deserves help because she is being targeted.

Or it could be some rich Dem who feels the Palin's are setting up this poor woman so there won’t be custody issues later and got her an attorney.

It really can be spun a number of ways.
 
The Bush girls did through thier criminal underage drinking.
Bristol did through her public interviews
Al Gore's son DUI
Nancy Pelosi's daughter
etc.

I know all about the Bush daughers drinking, that was all over the news all the time


Bristol was attacked because her mother ran for VP, her interview came out
later to try and do damage control. How can you twist this to say it was her interviews that got her in the news when it was liberals with hate filled hearts who called her everything from whore to slut within days of her mother accepting the VP

I learned about AlGore's son durning this election and I am one to keep up on news.

and what did pelosi's daughter do? I have not heard about that?



that is a sad list. none on your list was treated as bad as the Palin kids, the bush daughters are as close as you get and they are also republicans who liberals hate, target and destroy
 
Bunz, in one of these posts and I cant find it now, you asked me about visiting Juneau.

I spent a month there with friends in December. I never really saw anything but snow but it was pretty, Well we went to see some ice burgs and they were a funny color blue and pretty.

I liked the museum but I am still bothered by how many men were drunk and laying in the streets. well not literally the street but near the door ways and over hangs and people just walked around them or they would step over them. I dont understand how people can not do something about that or at least try.

I walked about five miles in the snow it was pretty cold but I liked it. If I lived there I would try to figure a way to help these guys
 
Im not comin around to see it. I am just saying the picture part seems reasonable.
Well Fox managed to get moving picutes and audio to go with it. I remember an interview on a local channel news (ANC Channel 2 "KTUU") where someone from a tabloid was talking about the People magazine about the original deal, and they said the price would only go up if the Governor was pictured with her Grandson, guess what you saw with Greta, and look back at the interview and notice her absolutely fake surprise by seeing Sarah and the baby.
I think to insinuate that a news channel not known for buying interviews paid her for an interview with out any proof is sick twisted disgusting and typical!!!!
Pandora, every American news outlet pays for interviews when it comes to the exclusive nature. They all do it.
Well the attorney part could be a lot of things, Palin being one of them. But I saw the Palin tax returns and they aren’t rich like the Obama’s and they give a good amount to charity unlike the Obama’s so its not like they have a lot of money to pay for high power attorneys.
Well considering the education level of the Palins and the state concerned, the Palins are doing quite well for themselves without being large business owners. Todd makes well over 100k a year on the slope, and the Governors pay is also above that mark. They are not hurting, but are not multimillionaires, until the Sarah book deal comes through.

That being said, and having a little bit of personal insight into the Palin/Johnston situation, I can tell you Sarah had little and most likely nothing to do with Levi's Mom getting a quality lawyer. It came from elsewhere. There is nothing more that Sarah wants than Levi's pharmaceutical heroin dealing to just go away.
 
I know all about the Bush daughers drinking, that was all over the news all the time
Well it wasnt so much Barbara as it was Jenna, but I found it a bit concerning that she was under SecServ protection and constantly ordering booze drinks in public.
Bristol was attacked because her mother ran for VP
Not quite, firstly her Mom was chosen as the GOP nominee, but that is mostly semantics. The reason this was made such an issue was two fold. The fact that much of the GOP in Alaska didnt like Palin at the time and the absurd rumors(from the far right) that Sarah's last child was actually Bristol. This of course is bogus, but the main reason the public announcement came that Bristol was at the time pregnant. To dispute the rumors that were being passed around by the ultra right wingers in Alaska and Murkowski supporters, who at the time claimed she was a socialist:D
her interview came out later to try and do damage control. How can you twist this to say it was her interviews that got her in the news when it was liberals with hate filled hearts who called her everything from whore to slut within days of her mother accepting the VP
Well again, this whole issue started with the actual conservatives in Alaska, who are staunch, and at the time didnt like Palin. But the second part of my reason for mentioning this, is simply the left pointing out the utter idiocy and hypocrisy of the right in thier views of abstinence only education. As Bristol herself pointed out in the interview.
and what did pelosi's daughter do? I have not heard about that?
Alexandra Pelosi's daughter was recently discussed on this forum for her work in making quasi documentaries about presidential candidates. Her best known one is Journey's With George. I would recommend you watch it, Ill save my comments about it until you see it for yourself.
that is a sad list. none on your list was treated as bad as the Palin kids, the bush daughters areas close as you get and they are also republicans who liberals hate, target and destroy
While it certainly is not easy being the kid of a major league politician, I dont necessarily agree with your assessment that the Palin kids have it worst. Firstly the oldest boy Track has been largely left out of the issue, as has the middle girl Willow, and Piper has been nothing but a media sweetheart. Whereas Chelsea went through her maturing and puberty years while being in the White House and while on the campain trial was asked repeatedly about her Fathers filandering with an intern. Bristol gets criticism for things she brought upon herself, whereas Chelsea is subject to stuff she had zero to do with.
 
Bunz, in one of these posts and I cant find it now, you asked me about visiting Juneau.

I spent a month there with friends in December. I never really saw anything but snow but it was pretty, Well we went to see some ice burgs and they were a funny color blue and pretty.

I liked the museum but I am still bothered by how many men were drunk and laying in the streets. well not literally the street but near the door ways and over hangs and people just walked around them or they would step over them. I dont understand how people can not do something about that or at least try.

I walked about five miles in the snow it was pretty cold but I liked it. If I lived there I would try to figure a way to help these guys

A few things, firstly, Juneau is at its worst in December. The tourist season is at its bottom, and the Legislative session is not happening. But it is still a pretty area nonetheless year round. And one of the warmer parts of the state in the winter.

The important thing to note is that Alaska when it comes to the availability of alcohol has three classifications, by what is commonly known as "local option" meaning that that some communities are dry, meaning no booze is legal. Then there is a "damp" option meaning that booze is able to come into the community for personal use, but is not legal for sale. And then of course there is the Wet option, which most HUB communities option for, in the case of Juneau. So the guys you saw were most likely from other communities, who had traveled there from dry villages and have taken full advantage of the availability of booze. I see it all the time in my community which is wet.

There is no doubt that the situation is bad in this regard. I mentioned it a few weeks ago in a thread about how bad the cold snap was in Alaska, and how my biggest concern was about those who were drinking and without shelter. Because several of them die every year from exposure to the elements.
 
A few things, firstly, Juneau is at its worst in December. The tourist season is at its bottom, and the Legislative session is not happening. But it is still a pretty area nonetheless year round. And one of the warmer parts of the state in the winter.

The important thing to note is that Alaska when it comes to the availability of alcohol has three classifications, by what is commonly known as "local option" meaning that that some communities are dry, meaning no booze is legal. Then there is a "damp" option meaning that booze is able to come into the community for personal use, but is not legal for sale. And then of course there is the Wet option, which most HUB communities option for, in the case of Juneau. So the guys you saw were most likely from other communities, who had traveled there from dry villages and have taken full advantage of the availability of booze. I see it all the time in my community which is wet.

There is no doubt that the situation is bad in this regard. I mentioned it a few weeks ago in a thread about how bad the cold snap was in Alaska, and how my biggest concern was about those who were drinking and without shelter. Because several of them die every year from exposure to the elements.


I thought it was pretty even with all the snow, the buildings were very pretty and the people were nice.

The men drunk and passed out bothered me but it was no ones fault except the men who got too drunk. There has to be a solution that does not involve the government. People getting together to pay for some shelter in town for them to go to, voulenteers to maintain it... or something.

I dont understand the wet dry thing you were saying. are you saying the natives cant drink legally in town? They get drunk someplace else then wonder to town?

Can they still do that? tell some groups you cant drink but others can?
 
Well Fox managed to get moving picutes and audio to go with it. I remember an interview on a local channel news (ANC Channel 2 "KTUU") where someone from a tabloid was talking about the People magazine about the original deal, and they said the price would only go up if the Governor was pictured with her Grandson, guess what you saw with Greta, and look back at the interview and notice her absolutely fake surprise by seeing Sarah and the baby.

Pandora, every American news outlet pays for interviews when it comes to the exclusive nature. They all do it.

Well considering the education level of the Palins and the state concerned, the Palins are doing quite well for themselves without being large business owners. Todd makes well over 100k a year on the slope, and the Governors pay is also above that mark. They are not hurting, but are not multimillionaires, until the Sarah book deal comes through. .

I understand about your personal issues with how she is running your state, it effects you and that is reasonable. It is when others chime in not because they give a rip about what is happening to you or in your state but because they hate her for her ideas that differ from their own so they attack her and her family on a personal level. That gets me frustrated.

My only problem with the pay for interview stuff is in earlier posts someone else said more or less it’s for sure she was paid for the interviews. It’s possible but it’s not for sure unless you have proof. The Gov of Ill. went to every station doing interviews, I don’t think they paid him either. He was on a number of FOX programs that I don’t think paid him either. Why must some people always assume the worst when it comes to Sarah Palin and her family just because her political ideas are not the same as theirs and assume the best about those who’s political ideas do fit in with theirs.


That being said, and having a little bit of personal insight into the Palin/Johnston situation, I can tell you Sarah had little and most likely nothing to do with Levi's Mom getting a quality lawyer. It came from elsewhere. There is nothing more that Sarah wants than Levi's pharmaceutical heroin dealing to just go away.

I don’t know enough about it but there are some who will just decide she is the one paying for it to protect her family blah blah.....without considering other possible options.
 
Well it wasnt so much Barbara as it was Jenna, but I found it a bit concerning that she was under SecServ protection and constantly ordering booze drinks in public.
Not quite, firstly her Mom was chosen as the GOP nominee, but that is mostly semantics. The reason this was made such an issue was two fold. The fact that much of the GOP in Alaska didnt like Palin at the time and the absurd rumors(from the far right) that Sarah's last child was actually Bristol. This of course is bogus, but the main reason the public announcement came that Bristol was at the time pregnant. To dispute the rumors that were being passed around by the ultra right wingers in Alaska and Murkowski supporters, who at the time claimed she was a socialist:D

Well again, this whole issue started with the actual conservatives in Alaska, who are staunch, and at the time didnt like Palin. But the second part of my reason for mentioning this, is simply the left pointing out the utter idiocy and hypocrisy of the right in thier views of abstinence only education. As Bristol herself pointed out in the interview.

Alexandra Pelosi's daughter was recently discussed on this forum for her work in making quasi documentaries about presidential candidates. Her best known one is Journey's With George. I would recommend you watch it, Ill save my comments about it until you see it for yourself.

While it certainly is not easy being the kid of a major league politician, I dont necessarily agree with your assessment that the Palin kids have it worst. Firstly the oldest boy Track has been largely left out of the issue, as has the middle girl Willow, and Piper has been nothing but a media sweetheart. Whereas Chelsea went through her maturing and puberty years while being in the White House and while on the campain trial was asked repeatedly about her Fathers filandering with an intern. Bristol gets criticism for things she brought upon herself, whereas Chelsea is subject to stuff she had zero to do with.


But again, my point is the hate filled stuff directed at the Palin’s is so much worse than the stuff directed even at the bush daughter. The stuff against Pelosi’s daughter is rather silly stuff, not personal and not hate filled.

My point was then and is now that the Palin’s have been treated in a way that no other political families have been treated in our history, even the evil George Bush has not had this bad of treatment.
 
I thought it was pretty even with all the snow, the buildings were very pretty and the people were nice.
You will find most Alaskans quite friendly. Even me. ;)
The men drunk and passed out bothered me but it was no ones fault except the men who got too drunk. There has to be a solution that does not involve the government. People getting together to pay for some shelter in town for them to go to, voulenteers to maintain it... or something.
Without Government? not exactly. While the various homeless shelters that exist around the country are funded by a combination of private and government sources, usually private contributions dont cover the major costs.
I dont understand the wet dry thing you were saying. are you saying the natives cant drink legally in town? They get drunk someplace else then wonder to town?

Can they still do that? tell some groups you cant drink but others can?
OK, sorry for the confusion. In Alaska we have a system when it comes to alchohol availability that is based on local option. As I said before there are three options. Wet, Damp, and Dry. Wet(like Juneau and most large communties) meaning the community is basically full service concerning alcohol. Meaning liquor stores, bars, and restaraunts that serve. Then there is damp, meaning that someone can bring in booze from elsewhere and drink it in thier home, but alcohol is otherwise banned from sale. Then of course there is dry, meaning any booze is illegal.

So what often happens is that the folks from dry or even damp communities and they get a little wild in the wet towns. It is not the ideal situation, but the folks you saw were not likely actually homeless, but without a place to stay for the night for various reasons.
 
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I understand about your personal issues with how she is running your state, it effects you and that is reasonable. It is when others chime in not because they give a rip about what is happening to you or in your state but because they hate her for her ideas that differ from their own so they attack her and her family on a personal level. That gets me frustrated.
Well now, Pandora that goes both ways, right and left. Certainly you know this when it comes to the current President.
My only problem with the pay for interview stuff is in earlier posts someone else said more or less it’s for sure she was paid for the interviews. It’s possible but it’s not for sure unless you have proof. The Gov of Ill. went to every station doing interviews, I don’t think they paid him either. He was on a number of FOX programs that I don’t think paid him either. Why must some people always assume the worst when it comes to Sarah Palin and her family just because her political ideas are not the same as theirs and assume the best about those who’s political ideas do fit in with theirs.
You see this is why Blogo is an idiot, because if he would have done a single exclusive interview with say Larry King, or better yet, Neil Cavuto is would have netted him potentially a million bucks. Blogo was trying to save is rear end and went on any place who would have him.
I don’t know enough about it but there are some who will just decide she is the one paying for it to protect her family blah blah.....without considering other possible options.
Well there havent been any others but me at this point. I think the most likely scenario would be for Levi and Bristol to step in and help Sheri Johnston. But again, as an Alaskan, who likes to think that I have somewhat of a grip on the pulse of the state, I dont know the circumstances myself, but something certainly is fishy, when she can go from the DA to her current lawyer without a change in her personal finances.
It would be like someone who cant afford a VW bug 2 months ago, to driving a Benz now.
 
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