Bush,conservatives, and Fascism

[top gun]

eehhh ya *****. The Republicans had the majority before the 2006 election.

The GREAT turnover in 2006!

Democrats Take Control of House; Senate Hangs on Virginia and Montana
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
Published: November 8, 2006

Democrats seized control of the House of Representatives and defeated at least four Republican senators yesterday, riding a wave of voter discontent with President Bush and the war in Iraq.

Jon Tester, a Democrat, who holds a narrow lead in the race against Senator Conrad Burns of Montana, preparing for an early morning television interview.

Eliot Spitzer, who was elected governor of New York, celebrated in Manhattan.

But the fate of the Senate remained in doubt this morning, as races for Republican-held seats in Montana and Virginia remained too close to call as Election Day turned into the day after. Democrats would need both seats to win control of the Senate as well.

In Montana, Senator Conrad Burns, a Republican, was trailing Jon Tester, a Democrat, by a narrow margin. The race in Virginia — between another Republican incumbent, Senator George Allen, and Jim Webb, his Democratic challenger — was so close that some officials said it would have to be resolved by a recount.

That prospect could mean prolonged uncertainty over control of the Senate, since a recount can be requested only after the results are officially certified on Nov. 27th, according to the state board of elections. Last year a recount in the race for Attorney General was not resolved until Dec. 21.

But the Democrats’ victory in the House — overcoming a legendarily efficient White House political machine — represented a dramatic turnaround in the fortunes of the party and signaled a sea change in the political dynamics in Washington after a dozen years in which Republicans controlled Congress for all but a brief period.

No less significant for the long-term political fortunes of their party, Democrats were winning governors’ seats across the country — notably in Ohio, a state that has been at the center of the past two presidential elections.

By early this morning, Democrats had picked up 24 seats in the House, knocking off Republican incumbents from New Hampshire to Florida, officials in both parties said. Although results from the West Coast had not yet come in, neither party anticipated that the basic outcome would change once all votes were counted.

Among the faces that will be absent from the halls of Congress next year are some high-profile and long-serving members of the Republican Party, including Representatives Charles Bass of New Hampshire. E. Clay Shaw Jr. of Florida, J.D. Hayworth of Arizona, Jim Ryun of Kansas and Nancy L. Johnson of Connecticut.

(Sidebar) They took the Senate back too!

 

[jb_1430]

Not that you would be expected to realize, but nothing there conflicts with my statement. BEFORE 2006 the Republicans had 55 seats, after they had 49. My #s are accurate and you are to ignorant to know any better.

 

[Popeye]

eehhh ya *****. The Republicans had the majority before the 2006 election.

Let me repeat an earlier post, in 2006 for the first time in U.S. HISTORY no Republican captured any House, Senate, or Gubernatorial seat previously held by a Democrat. Enough said.

 

[jb_1430]

Let me repeat an earlier post, in 2006 for the first time in U.S. HISTORY no Republican captured any House, Senate, or Gubernatorial seat previously held by a Democrat. Enough said.

I heard you the first time einstein. What does that have to do with your claim that the senate was split 49 to 49 BEFORE the 2006 election? Im starting to feel sorry for you so I will take the time to educate you. Why dont you read, before you make even more of a fool out of yourself. Dont hold so tightly to the ignorance. Let it go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_elections,_2006

 

[Popeye]

I heard you the first time einstein. What does that have to do with your claim that the senate was split 49 to 49 BEFORE the 2006 election? Im starting to feel sorry for you so I will take the time to educate you. Why dont you read, before you make even more of a fool out of yourself. Dont hold so tightly to the ignorance. Let it go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_elections,_2006

You have me confused with someone else. I never said the Senate was 49-49 before the 2006 elections, I challenge you to show otherwise, Einstein.

 

[jb_1430]

You have me confused with someone else. I never said the Senate was 49-49 before the 2006 elections, I challenge you to show otherwise, Einstein.

Yeah. Sometimes all the left wing moonbats seem to merge into one big slimey pile of goo. Top Gun was the one questioning my figures. Youve just been responding my claims as if you disagreed, without ever actually doing so.

 

[Popeye]

Yeah. Sometimes all the left wing moonbats seem to merge into one big slimey pile of goo. Top Gun was the one questioning my figures. Youve just been responding my claims as if you disagreed, without ever actually doing so.

Apology accepted, I guess. However, the fact remains that 2006 was an overwhelming defeat for the Republicans. Something, I can understand, that you still are having a hard time accepting. Perhaps a reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance will comfort you, maybe a singing of God Bless America will give you hope. I understand being a supporter of the minority party can be depressing, but all is not lost, after all, you've still got arguably one of the worst presidents in history, George Walker Bush.

 

[palerider]

The idea that political philosphies can truely be compared on a straight line spectrum is outdated.

Perhaps to relativists. I am not a relativist.

Hitler was a right leaning Authoritarian, while Stalin was a far left Authoritarian. Stalin was a Communist, Hitler was a Fascist.

Hitler and stalin were both socialists. Communism is an socialism with international aspirations. Fascism is socialism for a single nation. naziism is socialism for a single race.

Conservative, or right wing philosophy calls for small, non intrusive government. No form of socialism can be called right.

 

[palerider]

As lost in space as palerider always is... Right wing dogma now... is still Right wing dogma now. The Republican Party with George W. Bush as president with a lackey Republican House & Senate (until the last election) grew the government to its largest extent EVER. Spent more money than EVER before. Initiated comprehensive immigration reform. And of course LIED us into an invasion & occupation. Even Republican Ron Paul points out how far away the Republicans are from where they "claim" to be. It's all a neo-con shell game and as we saw in the last election... the American people know it now and they are not happy with Republican fraud and trickery. They started the change of power in 06... it will be finalized in 08

Democrats win big again in 08!!!! Watch and see...

If you had a clue, you would realize that bush is leaning left. Growing government. If he were your guy, you would love him. Bush doesn't represent conservativism and only one who knows nothing about conservativism would suggest that he does.

 

[9sublime]

Not all the left are for growing government. I'm not.

 

[Coyote]

If you had a clue, you would realize that bush is leaning left. Growing government. If he were your guy, you would love him. Bush doesn't represent conservativism and only one who knows nothing about conservativism would suggest that he does.

Bush doesn't represent liberalism either. Big government is not the sole plank of liberalism and the ways in which he is expanding government is in areas that conservatives typically want strengthened.

 

[TVoffBrainOn]

Perhaps to relativists. I am not a relativist.

that's an easy way out...instead of dealing with the issue.

Explain to me how you can compare the varying economic AND social policies of many political philosophies on a straight Left/Right basis.

If you had a clue, you would realize that bush is leaning left. Growing government. If he were your guy, you would love him. Bush doesn't represent conservativism and only one who knows nothing about conservativism would suggest that he does.

So the majority of the republican party knows nothing about conservatism. for once we agree.

 

[jb_1430]

Apology accepted, I guess. However, the fact remains that 2006 was an overwhelming defeat for the Republicans. Something, I can understand, that you still are having a hard time accepting.

2006 the Democrats picked up 31 seats in the house and 5 in the Senate. In 94 the Republicans picked up 54 house seats and 8 in the Senate. I wouldnt characterize 94 as evidence of-
"a country sick and tired of what the" Democrats "have pushed and they are now being firmly rejected as elections play out", I certainly wouldnt characterize 2006 as such. Just the typical back and forth swing of the pendelum that is to be expected.

 

[Popeye]

Conservative, or right wing philosophy calls for small, non intrusive government.

The Medicare Prescription Drug Act of 2003 has a 10 year cost estimate of 534 billion, passed by a Republican controlled Congress. Say they are not true conservatives, if you must, but the Republican party definitely still represents the right wing. I don't see anything "small" about 534 billion.

 

[Popeye]

2006 the Democrats picked up 31 seats in the house and 5 in the Senate. In 94 the Republicans picked up 54 house seats and 8 in the Senate. I wouldnt characterize 94 as evidence of-
"a country sick and tired of what the" Democrats "have pushed and they are now being firmly rejected as elections play out", I certainly wouldnt characterize 2006 as such. Just the typical back and forth swing of the pendelum that is to be expected.

On the contrary, the win in 1994 was coined the "Republican Revolution" because of it's historic proportions and ramifications. For the first time in 40 years, the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress. It was much more than a "swing of the pendulum". Similarly, in 2006 it was the Democrats turn to post an historic victory. Ripping control of both houses from the Republicans and embarrassing the war mongering Bush administration. Again, much more than just a "swing of the pendulum".