Are you scientifically literate?

First of all, why wouldn't they be conditional?
The real question is, why would they? And the answer to that is simple, control. Government doesn't have to ask a company to do what's in the company's best interest, companies will automatically act in their own best interest.

Government only has to intervene when they want companies to do something that is not in the company's best interest and the only two approaches are the carrot and the stick. Since government hasn't YET outlawed companies from acting in their own best interest, the only other option is to offer them financial incentives.

Secondly, since you do not support tax breaks and incentives, I assume that this means that you will not be using all those deductions that are available to you in the tax code,
Nice little attempt at a red herring through equivocation.

I was specifically talking about businesses. They shouldn't get any tax breaks, or subsidies, because they shouldn't be taxed at all. Until then, I'll settle for cutting their taxes.

writing a letter to your Congressman to ask him to stop supporting the oil industry with tax breaks and incentives. Right?
Attempting to use the fallacy of Tu Quoque does nothing to support your position.

I push for the elimination of all corporate and business taxes, which would also mean the end of all subsidies.
 
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And so the plan is to wait until the price gets there? And then start the development and implimentation? Considering the lead time involved, how does this prevent a financial crisis in the energy sector, and an energy deficit?

The plan is to let the market decide when the time is right.
 
Yeah? Well, we saw what a success the free markets were in the fincancial collapse, and during the Enron years. The issue here is that most qlternative energy firms are small upstart companies. Why do conservatives hail tax breaks and tax incentives for small businesses in general but not alternative energy start ups? Why are they protecting tqax breaks for the petroleum industry, breaks they obviously don't need?

If you are seriously arguing that banks are not one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country then there is really nothing I can say that will ever change your mind as to the cause of the financial collapse.
 
Huh? Really? Where? Who is getting them? The subsidies I was referring to was to the nuclear power industry, which obviously is not self-sustaining without government handouts, and with the power grid itself, which was largely built with funds provided by Ike's Congress. The power grid was not built by prvate industry alone. It took huge government subsidies to make it happen.

Am I to assume that no power grid would exist in the absence of government?
 
I find it interesting that conservatives have such a huge problem subsidizing alternative energy with just a handful of billion dolalrs to get it off the ground, while not having any problem at all subsidizing the oil industry to the tune of $36.5B,a well established industry that has no need whatsoever for subsidies.
 
"Your fallacious conclusions are based on a single false premise:

False Premise - Trade deficits are bad.

Someone convinced you that trade deficits are bad. From there, it was easy to convince you that private sector purchases of foreign products magically increases the national debt of our government.

Your premise, and therefore all your conclusions based on that premise, are fallacious and unsupportable.


Your premise seems to be that a $799 billion dollar drain on our economy is actually a good thing. And it is, if you are a Saudi royal.
 
"Besides the fact that your statement is a lie,"

Oh really? And you know another industry with the capital necessary to get alternative energy into the mainstream?


"...by what right are you entitled to use force to take what you didn't earn?"

What entitles the oil industry to get more than $36 billion dollars in subsidies from the American taxpayer??
 
"Government already does that and while it is legal,"

Two things:

1) Please name the statute whereby the Federal government collects revenue from the oil industry specifically to use for alternative energy initiates.

2) Name the statute that makes it illegal.
 
"That's how it works with taxes on any business, which is why we shouldn't tax business at all. We already tax individuals so corporate taxes are just a form of double taxation."

So you would give the corporations a nod and a wink? Seems Bush already tried that with disastrous results.
 
"So nationalize the oil companies and get it over with"

Nowhere in any of my posts did I say anything even vaguely resmembling this statement.

"... No more oil companies trying to block alternatives... "

Why shoulld we allow them to do that?

"All their capital would be in the hands of government"

I didn't say that either.


"... Couldn't you justify nationalizing the oil companies as being for the greater good of the country? Wouldn't that be the fastest way to get what you want?"

I said nothing about nationalizing the oil companies.
 
So just one example of regulation would prove that you're either a liar or just plain wrong...



That particular act is greatly responsible for lenders relaxing their policies concerning home loans... It's also proof that regulations were in place.

So which is it, are you a liar, or were you just plain wrong?

The CRA was signed into law in 1977. Are you telling me that this single act, enacted decades ago, caused our economy to collapse in 2008? Tell me that isn't your argument. Sorry, it isn't that simple.
 
"The real question is, why would they? And the answer to that is simple, control. Government doesn't have to ask a company to do what's in the company's best interest, companies will automatically act in their own best interest."

If all conservatives are this naive, it isn't a wonder our economy collapsed. A company may, in fact do what is in its best interest (and nearly as often not). But what is in their interest isn't necessarily what is in the best interest of the United States or its citizens.
 
"They shouldn't get any tax breaks, or subsidies, because they shouldn't be taxed at all. Until then, I'll settle for cutting their taxes."

I completely disagree. If you do commerce in thre Unites States, you have an obligation to pay for the infrastructure you are using roads, airports, sewage treatment, waste disposal, energy infrastructure, etc), to say nothing of the moral obligation you have to the community in which you do business. The fact is that some of the largest corporations have been found to pay little if any taxes. And since the SCOTUS has in effect made corporations equivalent to citizens, since they et equal treatment under the law, they shoul most definitely be taxed like everyone else. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
 
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"I push for the elimination of all corporate and business taxes, which would also mean the end of all subsidies."

Good luck with that.
 
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