Andy
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Yes and I know some people who have nazi ancestory too and can name all the nazi war criminals...but that doesn't mean they themselves are nazis.
Nazi is an ideology. Jew is a race. German is a Race. Ironic that you should mention the Nazis when their own slaughter of the Jews, didn't require them to practice Judaism. The Nazis slaughtered all the people of Jewish linage, indicating that to the Nazis themselves, Jewish was a race, not just a religion.
I can identify myself as a scottswoman and I could make a case for occupying Scotland and telling Britain to piss off and allow me to occupy Scotland and bring it under its own sovereingty again. And all of that would be in line and correct under your reasoning for Israel.
What if Britain agreed, allowed you to have sovereignty, and then a bunch of people from Ireland came, claimed you were occupying their land, and formed the Highland Liberation Organization, and had their stated goal to wipe out all of Scotland? That's what has happened to the Jews.
No, you're not fooling anyone, least of all Yahweh. The only thing that makes a jew a jew is the Hebrew faith. Without that faith and religious obedience, you have nothing but an ordinary man or woman with no more claims to ancient lands some of their forefathers occupied than do you or I to old (and I mean really old..predating the jewish faith even, old..) areas of Europe.
Yeah, the Yahweh you don't believe in. I'm really scared what the non-believers claim about Yahweh.
Anyway, either way you argue this, it doesn't work. If they don't have a claim, then neither does anyone else. If no one has a claim, then why not them?
If someone else does have a claim, then they also have a claim. I submit their claim is more valid than anyone else's to that land.
So they either have a claim, or they don't have a claim, in either case, they are just as justified to be there as anyone, or more justified.
And bombing on the Sabbath by its very nature is saying those people sitting in the cockpits pulling the bomb levers are not jews.
If they are not Jews, then they are just as justified to protect their people, than as they if they were. Whichever way you wish to look at it, they have a right to retaliate for being attacked.