A Tragic Mistake

[pocketfullofshells]

There is no reason to resort to calling anyone "Always"... I think we call all have some standards A simple ***** ***** would do just fine

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

I hope you realize, I was making a joke about being older than 8 years old. It was a comment to the actual years since the WTC and not a slight in any way.

Maybe it was simply understood in your own mind but not so clear on a topic that had an adult interest

Next, I'm confused in your need for dates and seated presidents. Each of these stand alone and were dealt with (or not) by a President of the United States. If you don't know when each of these things happened and which president was in office at the time, then get your money back from your Social Studies teachers. This is BASIC U.S. history.

"BASIC U.S. history"...but the simplistic listing of historic events compiled to look like and support your opinion when in it's limited view doesn't even compare with the ongoing/current stats is just a verbal smoke screen for pointless argument that holds no basis to this topic!

Your questioning of this basic history is part of why you take the positions you do and throw crap at those of us who differ with you. This past year has been nothing compared to 1968 for example. On top of all that, President Obama has had the mainstream media steadfastly behind him.

I would imagine that the 'recipient of the CRAP TOSSING' would have the same exact feeling...YOU THREW A PILE OF BU!! SH!T INTO THIS DISCUSSION AND THEN EXPECTED ME TO ACCEPT THAT AS A GIVEN/PROOF THAT YOU HAD A VALID REASONING FOR YOUR POSITION... PLEASE, GET OVER YOUR BIG BAD SELF

Finally, bite me!!!! No disrespect to "Always", but comparing me to his extreme viewpoint is inappropriate. You need to be taught a lesson in manners. If you don't have anything intelligent to say then shut up and go on to another thread. Stop the name calling, the cat calling and the comparisons.

Now that juvenile rant only justifies the comparison to your name sake...Thank you...point proven by your very own words...LMAO

 

[Stalin]

Obama's job is to be an apologist for imperialism, colonialism, greed and war.

No should be surprised when he steps and up and makes these statements.

It will end in tears. Ask the Russians. Ask the British. Ask Alexander the Great.

Comrade Stalin

 

[Mr. Shaman]

This is crazy..

I voted for Obama, donated to his campaign, but I can't defend the sending of more troops to Afghanistan. Heck, we've still got them in Iraq...what happened to his promise to have them all out of there within a year?

Bill Clinton thought HE knew what he was walking-into, also.​

"It must have been a shock. Clinton thought he was inheriting a $360 billion federal budget deficit when it was in fact twice as much. He thought he was inheriting a nation with a $5.6 trillion debt and it turns out to be a $14 trillion debt."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What's that old colloquial saying: 'you can make some of the people happy some of the time and most of the people happy most of the time...but you'll never make all of the people happy all of the time'

I was always a bigger fan o'.....If You're Pissin'-Off EVERYONE, You Must Be Doing SOMETHING Right!​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I haven't been a fan of President Obama, but I also haven't been bad mouthing him either. I figured, give him a chance, but it is getting harder and harder to stay neutral.

Gee....you've just (now) reached your Limit, huh?

How Courageous, of you, to speak-out.

​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I did not vote for Obama nor did I donate to his campaign, but I do agree that he is a total and complete failure. Bush was very much a failure too with a few notable exceptions. But this is the result when you ignore the Constitution....

 

[Pandora]

I was always a bigger fan o'.....If You're Pissin'-Off EVERYONE, You Must Be Doing SOMETHING Right!​

Unless your name is President George Bush

 

[TheFranklinParty]

Maybe it was simply understood in your own mind but not so clear on a topic that had an adult interest


"BASIC U.S. history"...but the simplistic listing of historic events compiled to look like and support your opinion when in it's limited view doesn't even compare with the ongoing/current stats is just a verbal smoke screen for pointless argument that holds no basis to this topic!

I would imagine that the 'recipient of the CRAP TOSSING' would have the same exact feeling...YOU THREW A PILE OF BU!! SH!T INTO THIS DISCUSSION AND THEN EXPECTED ME TO ACCEPT THAT AS A GIVEN/PROOF THAT YOU HAD A VALID REASONING FOR YOUR POSITION... PLEASE, GET OVER YOUR BIG BAD SELF

Now that juvenile rant only justifies the comparison to your name sake...Thank you...point proven by your very own words...LMAO

Okay, I'll take one more shot at this...

What pile of bull? These are irrefutable events in history. I really don't understand your issue here? Are you saying these didn't happen?

They do support my argument that other Presidents have had as much or more to deal with than this current administration. I'm not sure how you refute that. If you have a point to make supporting your view then great, let's discuss it.

The problem I have is that too many people on this site, including yourself want to attack the person instead of the argument. I'm personally sick and tired of it. I'm open to a heated debate on an issue, but the moment someone calls me a liar or stereotypes me in a bigoted fashion then the discussion has ended and it is nothing more than electronic ignorance.

 

[TheFranklinParty]

Gee....you've just (now) reached your Limit, huh?​

How Courageous, of you, to speak-out.​

​

I have asked you before to not comment on my posts to other people. Your input is not wanted and not needed. Take your ignorant stereotyping and bigotry somewhere else. It is not welcome here!!

 

[Sihouette]

Look, no matter what, Obama knew going into any decision would be met with resounding criticism. His choice was one either hitting your thumb, your big toe or your kneecap with a hammer. No matter what, it's gonna sting afterwards. I suggest a fourth and less painful option: hitting Cheneyco on the head with a grand piano.

Very important to remember that if it weren't for Bush/Cheney trashing our world standing, Obama would not have to feel the pressure of trying to win at least one large world ally like India. The Brits, the Aussies and India...all the former British colonies including us and Canada. That's what has to come together ro reknit all that was lost on behalf of Cheneyco. That is why we are in Af/Pak.

Those stupid greedy fools will go down in history as some of the worst villians the US has ever known, in fact the world has ever known; considering how many have died as a direct result of their lies, machinations and greed. I still offer that we could win more allies by trying that regime in a world court with our full blessings of extradition than we'd ever get by snuggling up to India right now...spending more enlisteds' lives to accomplish less than what could be by raking those bastards through the coals.

The cat is out of the bag. Everyone knows that they are guilty and what they are guilty of: lying and killing for greed. Our negilgence in bringing them to justice is HUGELY undermining the thrust of our promises to our allies. As long as we harbor the moral equivalent of the nazi war criminals in Germany, we tell the world we are giving a silent assent, our nod to the atrocities committed.

Put yourselves in the shoes of our potential "enemies" like Iran, Russia and China. If we were them and were watching what the US is doing, we would be utterly DONE with the US and ready to topple it for the sheer pleasure of dethroning the worst malignant hypocrites. If we brought our war criminals to justice, we may not have warm fuzzies with these folks for many years, but at least the rebuilding of trust would start and a de-escalation of hostilities would be well underway. Imagine healthy trade and reducing arms instead of having to fall to our knees for other countries and beg for their charity? AND ALL THIS FOR ONE SMALL GROUP OF EVIL MEN who could easily be brought to justice for a tiny fraction of the expense of what we're commiting to now...on so many levels..

Basically we're screwed. We could send 100,000 troops today and every day for the next ten years and if they all died valiantly fighting for our honor, it still wouldn't make as much a difference as trying Cheneyco. Ironic that those responsible for plunging our economy on the brink of a national emergency now "require" us to plunge ourselves even closer to the brink in order to regain our national standing. The real hard decision that you're not hearing about is Obama wrestling with taking on these cutthroat bastards vs sending those who won't complain out to do janitorial work for India. That's the compromise I won't forgive him for. If you think about it, Michael Moore has more balls.

There's a cheaper way folks. So what if Tony Blair et al go down too? Make backroom deals, cover important names but by God bring a few token heads to roll. [Dick Cheney and "the Decider" for starters, and Blair] Cheneyco sacraficed so many fallguys and gals at the altar of greed and unjustly so. Why would we hesitate for a nanosecond to not do so with them in the name of world peace and prosperity?

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

My original Statement:[QUOTE]Never in my lifetime has any president faced the plethora of difficult decisions that we currently face; which does he ignore and stay focused upon, which does he cut and avoid because there isn't a SIMPLE/EASY way to fix it, which does he force upon those that don't want his options/plan, which does he cut the losses for and say it's time to just pull out and walk away [/quote]

To which you typed up a list of Holocaust/mother nature events/incidents that track back before he was even born...WTH

Franklin Said: What pile of bull? These are irrefutable events in history. I really don't understand your issue here? Are you saying these didn't happen?

HERE GET A CLUE...I can either point out the obvious {with my usual effervescent smart a$$ed normal reply} OR I CAN JUST SIMPLY STATE...WELL OF COURSE ALL KNOWING ONE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE HELL I MEANT

Let me write it down again in my best crayola colors...THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE...NAY, NOT ONE OTHER PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME THAT HAS FACED ALL OF THE HIGH PRIORITY ISSUES THAT OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT HAS FACED IN HIS BRIEF TIME IN OFFICE IMO

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

Look, no matter what, Obama knew going into any decision would be met with resounding criticism. His choice was one either hitting your thumb, your big toe or your kneecap with a hammer. No matter what, it's gonna sting afterwards. I suggest a fourth and less painful option: hitting Cheneyco on the head with a grand piano.

Very important to remember that if it weren't for Bush/Cheney trashing our world standing, Obama would not have to feel the pressure of trying to win at least one large world ally like India. The Brits, the Aussies and India...all the former British colonies including us and Canada. That's what has to come together ro reknit all that was lost on behalf of Cheneyco. That is why we are in Af/Pak.

Those stupid greedy fools will go down in history as some of the worst villians the US has ever known, in fact the world has ever known; considering how many have died as a direct result of their lies, machinations and greed. I still offer that we could win more allies by trying that regime in a world court with our full blessings of extradition than we'd ever get by snuggling up to India right now...spending more enlisteds' lives to accomplish less than what could be by raking those bastards through the coals.

The cat is out of the bag. Everyone knows that they are guilty and what they are guilty of: lying and killing for greed. Our negilgence in bringing them to justice is HUGELY undermining the thrust of our promises to our allies. As long as we harbor the moral equivalent of the nazi war criminals in Germany, we tell the world we are giving a silent assent, our nod to the atrocities committed.

Put yourselves in the shoes of our potential "enemies" like Iran, Russia and China. If we were them and were watching what the US is doing, we would be utterly DONE with the US and ready to topple it for the sheer pleasure of dethroning the worst malignant hypocrites. If we brought our war criminals to justice, we may not have warm fuzzies with these folks for many years, but at least the rebuilding of trust would start and a de-escalation of hostilities would be well underway. Imagine healthy trade and reducing arms instead of having to fall to our knees for other countries and beg for their charity? AND ALL THIS FOR ONE SMALL GROUP OF EVIL MEN who could easily be brought to justice for a tiny fraction of the expense of what we're commiting to now...on so many levels..

Basically we're screwed. We could send 100,000 troops today and every day for the next ten years and if they all died valiantly fighting for our honor, it still wouldn't make as much a difference as trying Cheneyco. http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxpt141YYUS Ironic that those responsible for plunging our economy on the brink of a national emergency now "require" us to plunge ourselves even closer to the brink in order to regain our national standing. The real hard decision that you're not hearing about is Obama wrestling with http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxpt141YYUS taking on these cutthroat bastards vs sending those who won't complain out to do janitorial work for India. That's the compromise I won't forgive him for. If you think about it, Michael Moore has more balls.

There's a cheaper way folks. So what if Tony Blair et al go down too? Make backroom deals, cover important names but by God bring a few token heads to roll. [Dick Cheney and "the Decider" for starters, and Blair] Cheneyco sacraficed so many fallguys and gals at the altar of greed and unjustly so. Why would we hesitate for a nanosecond to not do so with them in the name of world peace and prosperity?

 

[BigRob]

Look, no matter what, Obama knew going into any decision would be met with resounding criticism. His choice was one either hitting your thumb, your big toe or your kneecap with a hammer. No matter what, it's gonna sting afterwards. I suggest a fourth and less painful option: hitting Cheneyco on the head with a grand piano.

Very important to remember that if it weren't for Bush/Cheney trashing our world standing, Obama would not have to feel the pressure of trying to win at least one large world ally like India. The Brits, the Aussies and India...all the former British colonies including us and Canada. That's what has to come together ro reknit all that was lost on behalf of Cheneyco. That is why we are in Af/Pak.

Those stupid greedy fools will go down in history as some of the worst villians the US has ever known, in fact the world has ever known; considering how many have died as a direct result of their lies, machinations and greed. I still offer that we could win more allies by trying that regime in a world court with our full blessings of extradition than we'd ever get by snuggling up to India right now...spending more enlisteds' lives to accomplish less than what could be by raking those bastards through the coals.

The cat is out of the bag. Everyone knows that they are guilty and what they are guilty of: lying and killing for greed. Our negilgence in bringing them to justice is HUGELY undermining the thrust of our promises to our allies. As long as we harbor the moral equivalent of the nazi war criminals in Germany, we tell the world we are giving a silent assent, our nod to the atrocities committed.

Put yourselves in the shoes of our potential "enemies" like Iran, Russia and China. If we were them and were watching what the US is doing, we would be utterly DONE with the US and ready to topple it for the sheer pleasure of dethroning the worst malignant hypocrites. If we brought our war criminals to justice, we may not have warm fuzzies with these folks for many years, but at least the rebuilding of trust would start and a de-escalation of hostilities would be well underway. Imagine healthy trade and reducing arms instead of having to fall to our knees for other countries and beg for their charity? AND ALL THIS FOR ONE SMALL GROUP OF EVIL MEN who could easily be brought to justice for a tiny fraction of the expense of what we're commiting to now...on so many levels..

Basically we're screwed. We could send 100,000 troops today and every day for the next ten years and if they all died valiantly fighting for our honor, it still wouldn't make as much a difference as trying Cheneyco. Ironic that those responsible for plunging our economy on the brink of a national emergency now "require" us to plunge ourselves even closer to the brink in order to regain our national standing. The real hard decision that you're not hearing about is Obama wrestling with taking on these cutthroat bastards vs sending those who won't complain out to do janitorial work for India. That's the compromise I won't forgive him for. If you think about it, Michael Moore has more balls.

There's a cheaper way folks. So what if Tony Blair et al go down too? Make backroom deals, cover important names but by God bring a few token heads to roll. [Dick Cheney and "the Decider" for starters, and Blair] Cheneyco sacraficed so many fallguys and gals at the altar of greed and unjustly so. Why would we hesitate for a nanosecond to not do so with them in the name of world peace and prosperity?

No offense, but this has to be the single biggest load of crap I have ever read. It is not really even worth bothering to respond to.

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

No offense, but this has to be the single biggest load of crap I have ever read. It is not really even worth bothering to respond to.

And yet you've remained ever so silent about ASUR & ALWAYS {the insanity Siamese twins}
Spread your 'FEELINGS AROUND' a little more

This post has some actual merit and a firm substantial mind behind it too...isn't this an opinion forum after all?