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Vladimir Putin Vs. President Barack Obama

Discussion in 'Asian Politics' started by Jim415, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe the 14 other places more free than here ? That being said, Switzerland is having a hard time dealing with its influx of money.
     
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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Did you feel the same way about the drunkard Bush?
     
  3. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Why would I ?
    He was not wildly successful as say a Romney, he was an executive who did lead the organization. Something BO never did. And it shows.
     
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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Bush had no successes. In fact, if not for his comrades he could never have bought into the baseball field, and if not for the taxes laid upon the people he would never had gotten the stadium built that made his team a national team. Obama had more successes as a community organizer then Bush did as a businessman:

    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/13/president.2000/jackson.bush/

    http://www.thenation.com/article/obamas-community-roots/
     
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    which has absolutely nothing at all to do with where the native born Americans could go that would be better than the USA.
     
  6. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Look at his book, he admits he was a failure at community organizing.

    So Bush got his stadium and that's not a success ? You may recall just how many localities funded them all in in part. Hardly unique to him.
     
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    That is the point. NONE of Bush's "successes" were of his making, or doings. Even his tenure as President was a massive failure.
     
  8. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    And BO failed with his help.
    Even Jobs had to work with others. Even Edison, that's pretty universal.
     
  9. pocketfullofshells

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    what did Bush ever lead? nothing
    And your not suppose to lead your college to something as a professor.
    Bush was a name on the ownership group, he was nothing more then a walking billboard for his dad and his family. He lead nothing.

    Obama has done 10000 times better then Bush. And it must pain you.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Bush vs Obama
    lets see
    Sept 11ths...Bush 3000 dead in largest terror attack in US history. Obama...still yelling about a small attack that killed like 4

    jobs
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    Wars started over fake evidence and with no plan...Bush Iraq...Obama none
    Defficits...lower under Obama
    Times whole economy collapsed
    Bush 1 major crash taking out banking, housing, auto industry....
    Obama...Record Stock markets, huge job grouth, housing going up, and auto doing better then in a long time.

    Health care
    Bush spends huge amount and no one is helped
    Obama gets lowest uninsured rate in a long time ( while also the plan reduces the debt long term)

    Im sorry care to name one good thing Bush did?
     
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    No but I'm still chuckling at that !
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Had an actual recovery from Clinton's mess. You need to keep up better, CBO has issued a number of revisions to the ACA financials. Before they declared it not possible to evaluate the damage since the administration refused to provide the data it had already gone far into the hole. As to the rest, you have steadfastly refused to accept facts. I don't see that changing
     
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    What Clinton "mess"? The dotcom bust?

    How does that compare to losing hundreds of thousands of jobs while 60,000 factories close their doors? And then there is the national debt, th eincrease in people on welfare, and the list goes on, and on, and one, and........
     
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    Pocket, just for you.. please read it to the end...
    President Bush Trusted Americans With Their Hard-Earned Money, Providing $1.7 Trillion In Relief Through 2008


    President Bush demonstrated that letting people keep more of their own money leads to economic growth. In 2001, America was experiencing the unprecedented triple shock of a recession following the dot-com bust, economic disruption due to the terrorist attacks of September 11, and corporate accounting scandals. Fortunately, the country was able to overcome these challenges, in part because President Bush's tax relief put more money in families' pockets and encouraged businesses to grow and invest. Following the President's 2003 tax relief, the United States had 52 months of uninterrupted job growth, the longest run on record.

    President Bush Signed The Largest Tax Relief In A Generation

    President Bush's tax cuts provided $1.7 trillion in relief through 2008. President Bush worked with Congress to reduce the tax burden on American families and small businesses to spur savings, investment, and job creation.

    In 2001, President Bush proposed and signed the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act. This legislation:

    • Reduced tax rates for every American who pays income taxes, including creating a new 10 percent tax bracket
    • Doubled the child tax credit to $1,000 by 2010
    • Reduced the marriage penalty beginning in 2005
    • Put the death tax on the road to extinction
    • Increased education tax benefits
    • Increased limits on IRA and 401(k) contributions and changed limits on defined benefit pension plans – which were made permanent in the Pension Protection Act of 2006
    In 2003, President Bush proposed and signed the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act. This legislation:

    • Reduced the top tax rate on dividends and capital gains to 15 percent
    • Accelerated income tax rate reductions
    • Accelerated the expansion of the 10 percent bracket
    • Accelerated the increase of the child credit to $1,000
    • Accelerated the reduction in the marriage penalty
    • Quadrupled small business expensing from $25,000 to $100,000
    • Increased bonus depreciation for businesses to 50 percent through 2004
    President Bush's Tax Relief Allowed Americans To Keep Trillions Of Dollars Of Their Own Money

    Results of the President's tax relief were swift. The economy returned to growth in the fourth quarter of 2001 and continued to grow for 24 consecutive quarters. The economy grew at a rapid pace of 7.5 percent above inflation during the third quarter of 2003 – the highest since 1984. The President's tax relief reduced the marginal effective tax rate on new investment, which encourages additional investment and, in the long-term, higher wages for workers.

    • In 2007, a family of four earning $40,000 saved an average of $2,053 thanks to the President's tax relief.
    The President's tax relief was followed by increases in tax revenue. From 2005 to 2007, tax revenues grew faster than the economy. The ratio of receipts to GDP rose to 18.8 percent in 2007, above the 40-year average. Between 2004 and 2006, capital gains realizations grew by approximately 60 percent. Growth in corporate income tax receipts was especially strong in the President's second term, nearly doubling between 2004 and 2007 and contributing a full percentage point to the increase in the total federal receipts-to-GDP share.

    The President's tax relief has shifted a larger share of the individual income taxes paid to higher-income taxpayers. With nearly all of the tax relief provisions fully in effect, the President's tax relief reduced the share of taxes paid by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers from 3.9 percent in 2000 to 3.1 percent in 2005, the latest year of available data, while increasing the share paid by the top 10 percent from 46.0 to 46.4 percent.

    President Bush Led The Response To The Financial Crisis Of 2008

    This unprecedented economic growth was ended by the turbulence in the housing and credit markets, to which the President responded with bold action. President Bush

    • The Administration warned of the risk that government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac posed to America's financial security beginning in 2001. President Bush's first budget warned that "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets." In 2003, the Administration began calling for a new GSE regulator. Despite resistance from Congress, President Bush continued to call for GSE reform until Congress finally acted in 2008 to provide the additional oversight the President requested five years earlier. Unfortunately, the reform came too late to prevent systemic consequences.
     
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    Dotcom bust corporate accounting malfeasance and 911.
    Welfare is the result of zero recovery despite many trillions funneled to FoBO.
     
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