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Should parents smoke around children?

Discussion in 'Health' started by Jason76, Jan 21, 2016.

  1. Alexia

    Alexia Member

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    I don't think drug use is acceptable in the company of adults or children. I do feel that this maybe also a class issue as those who are working class may tend to feel it's okay to smoke in front of children, and those who are middle class opt not to.

    My school friends were mainly working class and their parents would smoke in front of them and even let them smoke at home (under age) whereas my friends who were more middle class would not do that. I'm not sure you can force people to do things within their own homes, but to educate them so they understand the consequences.
     
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    I can't, of course, impose my values on others, but the idea that smoking is somehow different from using other drugs is simply not supportable. Teach kids that nicotine is OK, and why not cocaine?

    And, why not indeed? Nicotine is at least as addictive as cocaine. Treating it as anything other than a serious chemical dependency is simply self delusion IMO.
     
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    This is how we raise our minds. We choose to ignore many things just because there is not an effect right away. People don't care to learn the details about something that can cause harm.

    If I tell someone that the smoke from a cigarette being inhaled by a child who is obviously still developing will have problem with their lungs, and might be more likely to get lung cancer much faster, and they aren't the ones doing the smoking, the parent will let it go in one ear and out the other.
     
  4. Colonel

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    No - it harms children and passive smoke is more harmful.
    This is child abuse and potentially a child could have respiratory issues in the future.
    The law below has just been brought in in England & Wales.

    From today, new legislation in England and Wales makes it illegal to smoke in a vehicle carrying someone who is under 18. It is now also against the law for a driver not to stop someone smoking in these circumstances. The fine for both offences is £50.
     
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    Smoking is a bad habit whether it is pot or tobacco. Pot shpuld never be smoked in front of children. If a parent is smoking tobacco, have the consideration to do it outside so that the children are not exposed to second hand smoke.
     
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    I totally agree with you on that one, parents should not be allowed to smoke around children. It's bad for their health and it sets a really bad example for the kids. Even if they are not inhaling the smoke, they are learning really bad habits from an early age, and that is as bad as them inhaling the smoke because chances are they are going to grow up to smoke as well.
     
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    What about those who don't cover their mouths when they yawn ?
    That's a bad habit too.
    Putting the matter to law is serious.
     
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    How about drinking? Eating junk food?Not exercising? At what point should society control the actions of the parent?
     
  9. palerider

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    If you tell someone such a thing...you are giving them your opinion as opposed to hard supportable fact and as such should go in one ear and out of the other... The fact is that there is no clear link between second hand smoke and lung cancer and numerous large studies have born this out. If the child is an asthmatic, then you could rightly say that their smoke would aggravate the condition but making unsupported claims that smoking will cause them to get lung cancer faster is just lying...based on the current research.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielf...een-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/#4ad59cdc623f

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/look-it-way/200907/is-second-hand-smoke-really-dangerous

    http://www.ombudsman.cbc.radio-cana...ution-be-careful-what-you-claim-from-a-study/

    The claims of second hand smoke causing cancer are much like the claims of manmade global warming...widespread, but unsupportable insofar as the actual research goes...it is interesting to note that even though the journal of the national cancer institute published one of the largest studies ever done regarding second hand smoke...finding that it did not cause cancer...if one goes to their public web site, they still claim that it does....this is political support of a social narrative, not science in support of the facts.
     
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    The question is not, "Should parents be allowed to smoke around their children," but "Should parents smoke around their children."

    And the answer is a resounding no. Smoking stinks, it causes fires, and is a form of recreational drug abuse. Smoking around children gives a loud and clear message that doing drugs is OK.
     
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    Then I don't think they should because it sends a message...an unhealthy one at that...but if one lies and says that second hand smoke causes cancer it negates the actual message sent by not smoking. Lying to someone in an attempt to get them to not do a thing is just one more case of believing that the ends justify the means and nearly always ends up failing....and puts your credibility with them on future issues in question.
     
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    Much better to leave out that allowed part. Nobody ought to smoke as its really bad for you. If you had watched loved ones die as a result you would know this. I have and it's terrible.

    I am an over the top former smoker, I have a bias.
     
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    and I am an over the top anti smoker who can't stand the smell of tobacco smoke.

    Not that I'd support a law against it. They can smoke anything they want, as far as I'm concerned, as long as they do it outdoors and downwind.
     
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    The US used to be great because we were free...free do do pretty much whatever we wanted so long as what we were doing didn't encroach on the rights of others....then people started imagining that they had certain rights and the courts, at great cost to our freedom went along with them in their belief of rights that didn't exist...such as the right to not have to smell cigarette smoke...
     
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    I'm an ex-smoker, and the smell of tobacco makes me crave a cigarette. I'm also an ex-drinker, and yet the smell of alcohol does not make me crave a drink, nor does the smell of coffee make me crave a cup. The smell of pot actually makes me ill to my stomach although I used to smoke a joint, or two.

    It is a wonder as to how the body/mind works.
     
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