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Is the need of salvation an evil lie from religions?

Discussion in 'Culture & Religion' started by Gnostic Christian Bishop, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. Gnostic Christian Bishop

    Gnostic Christian Bishop Active Member

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    Is the need of salvation an evil lie from religions?


    Some religions like Christianity and Islam teach that people are condemned by God and that we have to work to gain salvation. God created us ill, and orders us to be well, on pain of tremendous eternal torture and eventual death. This teaching follows the one where we are told that God is unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways. This makes the notions of condemnation and the need for salvation obvious lies.


    Gnostic Christianity does not use this type of carrot and stick motivation in its theology. We are Universalists and only see a heaven, no hell. We think God too good a creator to ever have to condemn anyone. Our God is a winner, not the loser God that Christianity has invented. All the Gods are myths created to help us reach our highest human potential and are only tools to open our inner eye. Our single eye as Jesus calls it.


    How we can forgive ourselves is that as Universalists, we have tied righteousness to equality. The logic trail from there says that if God is to punish anyone, he would have to punish everyone as everyone contributes to what we all are.


    For instance. If God were to punish Hitler, he would have to revue what made Hitler what he ended up being. God would follow his time line and see perhaps that his parents spanked him and God would know what we know today, that spanking creates resentment and a delinquent attitude. That beginning would see Hitler's parents setting his mindset which eventually flowered into his tyrannical nature. So to be just, God would automatically have to punish Hitler's parents. That same logic would apply to everyone who contributed or facilitated Hitler's rise to infamy.


    So for you and me to blame just ourselves for what we are would be quite unjust. This is not to say that we hold no responsibility for our actions, just not all of them.


    Do you agree that the need of Salvation promoted by religions is an evil lie?


    Regards

    DL
     
  2. Jason76

    Jason76 Active Member

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    It's true though that we all will die one day and some will die in a seemingly unfair way, say someone dies of cancer at age 30, or even worse at 10 years old. In that case, how can we dismiss the religious emphasis on death and salvation? Given mortality it would seem to be the main point of our life, even though living a religious life can seem square and boring to many people.
     
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    Dying has nothing to do with the issue of the need of salvation being a lie.

    If you made a connection, I missed it.

    Regards
    DL
     
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